Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 14 April 2002

Various big media television networks ^ | 14 April, 2002 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[stimulate]

Tony Snow reported that the Oregon Democrat Party has stated that it wants to BOYCOTT the Rush Limbaugh show because it is so sucessful! A few weeks ago,Michael Medved, reported the same boycott threat for his show. The Oregon Democrats are asking that listeners flood subscribers with demands to stop advertising on the radio show. 'Okay listeners I know you love the Rush Limbaugh show,but the exchange of free ideas can be so unfair to liberals!'

[RamsNo1]

The whole time that Bush went along with democrat issues so the democrats couldn't blast him well, I would say that democrats have tons of legitimate ammo now. We are witnessing of the self-destruction of the republican president. If I were a republican congressional candidate, I would drop out now.

[OldFriend]

We all seem to be living in a parallel universe. For eight years all we heard about was how the first President Bush dropped the ball and didn't get rid of Saddam Hussein.

Suddenly when it appears that a plan is in the works to do just that, the dems and their hateful cohorts in the media have switched positions on this.

What madness. Time to shut off the spigot of bigotted, biased news, and take some time to smell the flowers. Perhaps when we tune back in the world will have righted itself.

[RamsNo1]

I have very rarely heard Brit criticize Bush like this. He is usually very supportive of the president. I hope Bush was watching this because I think that Bush always valued Brit's opinion. Wasn't Brit the first media person invited to the WH in 2001? I can imagine what it may be like at Camp David right now.

[stands2reason]

I enjoyed your joke and totally got it. Some people maybe have switched to decaffeinated too quickly, I guess.

[Wphile]

Brit was the only media person invited to the State dinner with Vicente Fox.

[CedarDave]

I think Sullivan is delusional and Steyn's column is already out dated.

Regarding Sullivan, there is evidence that the Bush crew is making it up as they go along and trying to put a postive spin on everyone of their missteps. Sullivan's words are just giving the Bush can-do-no-wrong junkies unneeded encouragement.

Steyn has some good points, especially about the escapism/denial of the Europeans regarding their future with an ever-expanding Muslim population. Live for today is their mantra. Some, though, as he recognizes, are "scared of their Muslim populations, scared of what perceived slight might turn them from shooting up kosher butchers to shooting up targets of more, shall we say, concern to the general population."

In summary, I didn't get much solace out of either article with respect to our getting tough with terrorists, or what the future holds for us in the Middle East.

[RamsNo1]

Thanks for the info. Sorry for my hateful rants against Bush but I used to love the guy and had a card with his picture in my kitchen. When my mother was ill on election day 2000, I dragged her out of bed so she could go and vote for Bush. Now, to see the depths that he has sunk is as bad as losing my mother 4 months ago.

[Libertina]

I enjoyed your joke and totally got it
I got it too, and have looked though the replies to seee if Skooz has been "forgiven" yet, but no such luck. LOL Later, no doubt. ;)

[CedarDave]

Condi did her best to make lemonade out of lemons on MTP. She is brilliant, and I think she could make a winner out of any position she might be asked to defend on a debate team.

[Torie]

The bit you are missing is that the PA thinks that the suicide bombers are a useful policy tool, and Sharon does not think that targeting the killing Palestinian civilians is a useful policy tool for Israel. When Israel individuals free lance doing that sort of thing, they are arrested and tried if caught. And their families don't receive subsidies.

Another thing that you are missing is that the Palestinians have the power to effect a peace deal that insures their survival, and Israel doesn't. Israel tried and was spurned. The solution to this matter will be a unilateral one. The PA has seen to that. They have left no alternative. No sane Israeli would believe that the PA and the Palestinians will hew to any peace deal anyway.

[McGavin999]

There is a very simple fact at work here. Whether we like it or not, the Palestinian people "elected" Arafat. If we, the premier republic in the world, disregard the democratically elected leader of a people, we undermine our own position that democracy is the way to go. We HAVE to deal with Arafat until he can be replaced by the people or choose of his own will to retire. THAT is the nasty little truth here.

I'm sick of hearing that the terrorism that the Israelis face is the same as what happened on 9-11. It is not the same. I agree that it is terrorism, but I also know that the settlements have created a nasty situation that has to be addressed. I don't like the Palestinians, I think they are barbarians, but truth is truth.

Israel needs to build a fence around their country, not hire Palestinians for any jobs what-so-ever, and shoot any Palestinian that comes across the fence, no questions asked.

[Gritty]

Whether we like it or not, the Palestinian people "elected" Arafat. If we, the premier republic in the world, disregard the democratically elected leader of a people, we undermine our own position that democracy is the way to go. We HAVE to deal with Arafat until he can be replaced by the people or choose of his own will to retire. THAT is the nasty little truth here.

Hitler was democratically elected too, and in a "fair" election to boot. So was Savadore Allende elected, as was Robert Mugabe and Benito Mussolini.

So, what's your point? Elections are "infallible", so we must accept whatever awful result they usher in - no matter what harm they do to the United States or even the peoples they betray?

Arafat is a murderous thug, fomenting terror against his neighbors and keeping the Palestinian people in bondage and terror within their own borders. He has murdered American diplomats and is aided and abetted by those who continue to plan mass murder of Americans all over the world.

Arafat needs to be replaced as soon as possible - for America, as well as Israel. The happenstance he was "elected" in a sham election some years ago and has made himself essentially President For Life has little to do with it.

We kill termites because they threaten our houses, not because they are knowingly doing us harm. Indeed, Arafat threatens our house as well as Israel, and is knowingly doing us both harm.

Arafat needs a dirt nap, fast. The fact he was "elected" once is immaterial. It is even immaterial to the radical Muslims, although they are proud to loudly shout it as an excuse to keep him in power, doing their bidding. The man is a danger to all around him.

[McGavin999]

The difference is that we were at war with Germany. Did we declare war on Palestine and I missed it?

The simple solution is to show the Palestinian people just how much they have had stolen from them by Arafat. Get a peace process in place and get him replaced. Once that is done we don't have to deal with him and neither does Israel and the world gets off the back of Israel.

I am firmly convinced that the only reason the Arab world it so het up about Palestine is because they detest the people and want them out of their own country.

[Torie]

You really don't think anyone can wean the Palestinians from Arafat do you? You seem to think they would react like some precinct in Missouri, the show me state.

[marajade]

Its just soo much easier to criticize than to suggest something positive...

[Alas Babylon!]

Fox News Sunday being broadcast on Fox News Channel now BUMP!

[CedarDave]

For those gullible Charlie Brown types that are always surprised when a predictable terrorist (Arafat) does the predictable thing:

[lawdude]

"...just a microbe below Algore."

Dicky adds to clear political reason as a Quark adds to atomic mass!

[CedarDave]

It is not the same. I agree that it is terrorism, but I also know that the settlements have created a nasty situation that has to be addressed.

Have concurred with this sentiment in a number of my responses. Most (if not all) of those settlements do nothing but deliberately provoke the Palestinians. I hope that the leadership of Israel will recognize that some day, not withstanding that some of the Jewish religious zealots will cause trouble about any pull back.