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Mom Sues Over Ejection From School Assembly On Homosexuality
CNSNEWS.com ^ | 5/13/02 | Matt Pyeatt

Posted on 05/13/2002 3:10:36 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: kattracks
Francis J. Manion, senior counsel for the ACLJ, said parents should be able to participate in activities at a public school to see if it is appropriate for their children.

He almost has it right. Not only should parents have the right to participate in activities at a public school to determine their appropriateness, but TAXPAYERS who fund such activities should also have the right. Any taxpayer should be able to see exactly what their dollars are purchasing.

141 posted on 05/13/2002 9:07:37 AM PDT by FourPeas
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To: JoshGray
You just luv dem Faggots don't cha Josh.
142 posted on 05/13/2002 9:08:07 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: JoshGray
It's not safe.

What is not safe about this mother watching the assembly? Not safe for whom?

Yes - Glasnost, sunlight, oxygen, public scrutiny is not safe for some!

143 posted on 05/13/2002 9:12:22 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: ppaul
"It makes you wonder what types of perverts are running the [public] schools."

By visual observance of School Boards of Eds seen on any 6:00 News story, and the subversive curriculums put in place at a rule, it is clearly militant-lesbian hags from the feminist 60's that have a strangle-hold on the "gay-friendly" indoctrination process of America's children.

144 posted on 05/13/2002 9:15:24 AM PDT by F16Fighter
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To: JoshGray
The schools should be forced to do everything possible to facilitate complete and effective oversight by the parents. Schools will resist oversight at every turn, because they see themselves as the best judges of what is right and proper in the field of education. Given that public education is a public endeavor, this attitude is diametrically opposed to the way things should be.

Since we spent all that money wiring each classroom to the internet a few years back, why don't we spend the extra $100 per outlet and put a web-cam in every classroom? The school could set up a website, and each cam could be accessed by any parent or citizen who happened to be curious. And the beauty of a web-cam is that the teacher never knows if he is being watched, so the chilling effect on behaviour is in effect at all times.

Now that's oversight!

If your child is having problems in a class, just download the series, and he can study at his leisure. If he says he has a problem with the teacher, evaluate the teacher yourself. If there is a discipline problem, "Let's go to the videotape!"

There is a technological solution to this problem. But the NEA will scream bloody-blue-murder before they let it come to pass.

145 posted on 05/13/2002 9:16:16 AM PDT by gridlock
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To: JoshGray
However, when, at the urging of a school board member, Loveless attempted to attend

SS. She was urged to by a school board menber.

JG: I submit that she had no purpose at the assembly other than disruption, and she was treated no differently than a disruptive student.

SS Your submission is a figmet of your imagination.

146 posted on 05/13/2002 9:18:38 AM PDT by sausageseller
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To: ppaul
Anyone remember watching C-SPAN in April of 1993 when they carried the Gay March on Washington? Here is a list of Platform demands they were seeking at the time:

1.) Elimination of all laws prohibiting sodomy, transgendered expression (cross-dressing) and sado-masochism.

2.) Lower the age-of-consent for homosexual and heterosexual sex.

3.) Implementation of homosexual, bisexual and transgendered curriculum at all levels of education.

4.)Legalization of homosexual marriages.

5.) Custody, adoption and foster care rights for homosexual, lesbians and transgendered people; re-definition of family to include the full diversity of all family structures.

6.) Access to all programs of the Boy Scouts of America.

7.) Affirmative action for homosexuals and lesbians.

8.) Inclusion of sex-change operations under a universal health care plan.

147 posted on 05/13/2002 9:23:44 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: VRWC_minion
She wasn't a "strange" adult wondering the halls. She was recognized by the principal.

We know that now, don't we?

Based just on this one article, I can't believe that any of you would condone any adult just walking into a school. Y'know? Anthrax in the mail, planes flying into buildings, Columbine? Any of that ring a bell?

But it doesn't matter though -- saving the world from those eeeeebil homoseckshuls and GLSTEN takes presidence over safety, huh?

Despite the accusations, this is the first and only time I've mentioned the group.

Funny, that.

148 posted on 05/13/2002 9:26:58 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: gridlock
Since we spent all that money wiring each classroom to the internet a few years back, why don't we spend the extra $100 per outlet and put a web-cam in every classroom? The school could set up a website, and each cam could be accessed by any parent or citizen who happened to be curious. And the beauty of a web-cam is that the teacher never knows if he is being watched, so the chilling effect on behaviour is in effect at all times.

There's the first good idea I've heard on this thread. I'd vote for it.

The NEA needs to go, but does anyone really think that's going to happen?

149 posted on 05/13/2002 9:30:35 AM PDT by JoshGray
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To: JoshGray
What have you been smoking? PICKLES?????????
150 posted on 05/13/2002 9:34:47 AM PDT by gueroloco
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To: JoshGray
I'll tell you why. Being a parent that is currently fighting this crap in our local schools (and we have been successful) this parent is not only a tax paying citizen with a student in the school, but needs to know how deviant the material is that is being aggresively pushed onto our minor children. Not only is this filth being presented in these "closed door" presentations, but leaks out to those children that didn't attend because it's encouraged for the students to disseminate the information to the absent students after the presentation is over.

GLSEN has become so rabid about the social engineering of our children's thoughts and beliefs, with respect to homosexual sex, that it has become a form of pimping through tittilation.

Can't you see how frighteningly aggressive these groups have become?

To eject a parent from a public school function is horrifying in its intent, and I hope she sues, and wins, a "closet" full of money.

151 posted on 05/13/2002 9:36:12 AM PDT by libertylass
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To: kattracks
"Parents do not abandon their rights as parents once their children go to [government] school. . ."

I disagree with this statement. When parents abandon their sacred responsibility to educate their children by delegating that responsibility to the state, then they are abandoning the right, too, it seems to me. I know parents don't mean to do this, but it is reality.

152 posted on 05/13/2002 9:38:12 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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To: Tijeras_Slim
History shows that tyrants and totalitarians of all stripes go after the kids to get their most fanatical adherents.

"Gutten Tag Canteen Boy!"

153 posted on 05/13/2002 9:41:15 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: JoshGray
Schools should not have to accomodate every John or Jane Doe who walks in off the street with "I'm a taxpayer; show me what I've bought." It's not safe.

Cheap excuse. It's a government organization, it needs to be open to the ultimate check-n-balance: the voter.

I can only think of one place within a school that should not be open to parent's visitation - that's the gym locker. Everything else should be open to visitation. If the parent wants to visit a class they've opted their child out of so they can get the ammunition necessary to justify their decision (which is likely what this woman wanted to do) that should not be a problem with the school.

If they aren't willing to live in the light, they should be shut down. Period.

Shalom.

154 posted on 05/13/2002 9:43:40 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: JoshGray
I'm sure you've seen how packed gymnasiums and auditoriums can be with students -- now add in every "concerned citizen" who wishes to attend to check things out, to spy on their kids, to deal dope during the intermissions, to check out what their money is going for, whatever their real reason for being there is.

Man, I don't know why you spent so much time defending your position. It certainly can't have been because you are sure you're right.

Any school, under normal circumstances, is glad to have parents showing some interest in what the kids are learning and glad (not to be confused with glaad) to have parents become involved because kids can not be taught without parents' help.

But GLSEN doesn't want the parent's help because GLSEN is trying to teach the kids things their parents don't want them taught. GLSEN has to be sneaky because what they want to teach the children offends most people. GLSEN has to be afraid of the light of truth because nobody would tolerate them if they were exposed. So now we get excuses about school events being mobbed by drug-dealers, etc. It ain't a problem and it ain't gonna happen. Schools have been allowing (and helping) parents participate since they began, and they know how to do it without it becoming a logistical nightmare. They could have done it here.

Except GLSEN knows what happens when parents share what happens in a GLSEN assembly. It happened in Boston.

Shalom.

155 posted on 05/13/2002 9:53:10 AM PDT by ArGee
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To: libertylass;JoshGray;All
"GLSEN has become so rabid about the social engineering of our children's thoughts and beliefs, with respect to homosexual sex, that it has become a form of pimping through tittilation."


Needs to be shouted from the rooftops!

(Torrance School Board Cuts Gay Program)

156 posted on 05/13/2002 9:58:34 AM PDT by EdReform
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To: JoshGray
saving the world from those eeeeebil homoseckshuls

Josh--what are you doing? Are you trying to mock southern Americans for their speech, or accent?

That is very 5 year old of you.

157 posted on 05/13/2002 9:58:58 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: JoshGray
Probably because the mother knew what kind of smut that organization was spewing. She probably had a tape recorder with her. Now nobody will know what went on in there and what was said, one could only imagine.
158 posted on 05/13/2002 9:59:54 AM PDT by Coleus
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To: kattracks
This is frightening. Go, ACLJ!!!!!!! For victory & freedom!!!
159 posted on 05/13/2002 10:02:46 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy
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To: kattracks; TxBec; Snow Bunny; Alamo-Girl; Republican Wildcat; Howlin; Fred Mertz; onyx; SusanUSA...
Mom Sues Over Ejection From School Assembly On Homosexuality

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(CNSNews.com) - A St. Louis, Mo. mom is suing the public high school that blocked her from observing a school-sponsored assembly conducted by the Gay, Lesbian and Straight Education Network (GLSEN).

Debra Loveless had told school officials she considered the event inappropriate, but was trying to view it herself on Oct. 24, 2001 when she was escorted out of the assembly, according to Loveless' attorneys, who have filed the federal civil rights lawsuit in U.S. District Court in St. Louis. Loveless' daughter attends Metro High School.

GLSEN bills itself as the country's largest network of parents, students and educators aimed at preventing "discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender/identity expression in K-12 schools," according to its website.

GLSEN did not return phone calls to CNSNews.com.

The group conducted two assemblies at Metro High School, Oct. 17 and Oct. 24 of last year, both of which Loveless' daughter was exempted from attending because of the family's religious beliefs, according to the American Center for Law and Justice (ACLJ), the public interest law firm representing Loveless.

However, when, at the urging of a school board member, Loveless attempted to attend the Oct. 24 event, she was ejected by an armed security guard, the ACLJ stated.


Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my ping list!. . .don't be shy.

160 posted on 05/13/2002 10:03:32 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP
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