Schools, Kids and Whippings

Sierra Times ^ | Dorothy Anne Seese

[Frumious Bandersnatch]

Corporal punishment in schools is a good idea. Government-run schools are a bad idea.

The best teachers that I had never needed to resort to corporal punishment.  In fact, only the worst sort did so.

[Texaggie79]

They used to make us wear dunce caps

I shall refrain from obvious comment.

[justin4bush]

The problem with kids today and people like you is that you think kids have rights. Kids need to do what they ar told plain and simple! There is no room for argument or discussion. Just do what you are told or face the consequences, and with pansy ass punishment like time out, there are virtually no consequences.

Justin

[freeeee]

The problem with kids today and people like you is that you think kids have rights.

Children's rights are held in proxy by their parents until they reach the age of majority. Parents exercise these rights on behalf of their children. If ANYONE strikes a child without explicit parental permission, they are committing assault on a minor and should be vigorously prosecuted.

If the state fails to punish the perpetrator, the parents will take that job upon themselves, if they have any spine at all. Schoolyard scraps are one thing. Adults striking a child are quite another. Woe be to the fool who so much as touches my child without my permission. One would do better taunting wild bears.

[southern rock]

Corporal punishment in schools is a good idea. Government-run schools are a bad idea.

How can an institution that ought not exist have the authority to hit your child?

[southern rock]

If you send your child to a government school, you must live within the bounds of the school.

FALSE!! Government schools are compulsory and governmental, therefore they have NO AUTHORITY to usurp parental rights.

[AppyPappy]

So a school cannot punish a student in any way without involving the parent?

[southern rock]

I have no problem giving my daughters a spanking when they need it but over my dead body will I give someone else the go ahead to do so.

Because you are a REAL parent. God bless ya!

[southern rock]

A paddling is no big deal except to the kids who know they might get one. I would rather a child be paddled then sent home to an empty house where he can watch TV all day. Some punishment.

If a government school teacher has the authority to hit your child, then an IRS agent has the authority to beat the hell you. They are both government agents. No difference.

[southern rock]

Schools have the right to properly discipline students.

Not government schools.

[scholar]

No whuppins at any school will instill in any child the values that parents fail to teach or teach properly.

I think this is the crux of the issue--a child who has had no discipline, and has learned no respect for authority at home, will only become angry and more rebellious if they receive corporal punishment at school.

My kids went to a Christian school where it was understood they could receive at rap on the behind, but they had already been raised with the concept of consequences for bad behavior.

As for government schools, we can't trust them to teach the basic 3R's, much less dispense appropriate discipline.

[southern rock]

The problem with kids today and people like you is that you think kids have rights.

PARENTS HAVE RIGHTS!!! Government schools may NOT violate PARENTAL RIGHTS by laying hands on their children.

[southern rock]

hell you = hell out of you.

[southern rock]

So a school cannot punish a student in any way without involving the parent?

Not physical punishment.

[INSENSITIVE GUY]

NO SPANKING--HIGH CRIME RATE!

[mrfixit514]

Discipline begins at home. Respect for authority begins at home. The knowledge of right and wrong begins at home. Instruction about the value of a good education begins at home. In fact, life begins at home!

Amen Sister! Preach it! Best wisdom I have seen on FR in quite a while

[Landru]

"When we can't trust our government with our immigration policies, our Bill of Rights or even our Constitution, should we trust them with the children? I would say at this point the statement of former president Ronald Reagan applies to the highest degree: 'government is not the solution to the problem, government IS the problem.'"

Now why'd you call me over here?
Hmmmm?

...doesn't that paragraph say all that really needs to be said?

;^)

[Protagoras]

I shall refrain from obvious comment.

Too late for that. Heck you can't even insult someone without screwing it up. :-)

Here's the right way to do it;
If they had you in the class they would have put velcro on it so you could continue to wear the same one even today.

[Protagoras]

They aren't going to HIT your delicate little 5 year-old.

Thanks for the re-assurance. You were the one who suggested it when you brought up the 5 yr olds hitting each other.

Geez, put the hyperbole down.

Funny, I was thinking the same thing about your comment when you dragged it down to the kindergarten level to make the point about your boys getting slapped around by the bullies.

[roachie]

I went through the same thing in the 80s and 90s. I didn't dare cross my crazy father's wrath. Then again, I never really did anything worthy of getting beat over. I think the worst I ever done was fight, and that wasn't too bad. I was more worried about making bad grades and getting beat. Now I won't lie, being a mischievious child in junior high landed me grabbing my ankles and taking swats and looking back in retrospect I deserved it, though at the time I was being rebellious to stupid systematic brainwashing teaching in public schools.