What Arab Civilization?

Ninevehsoft ^ | November 7, 2001 | Peter BetBasoo

[MaxwellWolf]

So much for the "glorious Muslim civilization"! I guess their contributions will remain limited to suicide bombers.

http://www.ninevehsoft.com/fiorina.htm

[El Sordo]

What is the Capital of Assyria?

[aristotleman]

Assimilation is the core of muslim achievement. Conquer a people, then claim their achievements as muslim. Whatever the Greeks, Assyrians, Babylonians and other accomplished ancients discovered, was appropriated by these savages.

[aristotleman]

Nineve.

[katana]

I majored in Middle Eastern history about twenty five years ago and as far as I can recall those studies, everything cited in this article is 100 % correct. The emphasis on Assyrian culture is understandable as it is the author's own, and inclusion of the contributions of the countless other minorities which were (barely) tolerated under Islamic rule would fill volumes. I know of no culture that is now Islamic which was not "converted" at the point of a sword.

[NC_Libertarian]

I thought the arab contribution was as keepers of knowledge through the dark ages? Not that I expect to get a straight answer to that question on FR...

[aristotleman]

The Byzantine empire battled these vemin for hundreds of years, yet they are not merited with anything in the west. Strange. A civilization that held Christianity, science, civility and science together, during Europe's "Dark Ages", is forgotten, yet people are quick to praise Arabs. Mind boggling.

[Publius6961]

Huge BUMP!

[Jeremiah Jr]

Suleiman the gangsta bump...

[aristotleman]

The muslims that deserve credit are the Ottomans. They preserved cultures, even after a conquest.

[SpottedBeaver]

You need to ask that in a more serious tone.

What..... Is the capital of Assyria?

[Stand Watch Listen]

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[agrace]

Bump. Very interesting read. Thanks for pointing me to this article.

[Constitution Scholar]

I thought the arab contribution was as keepers of knowledge through the dark ages? Not that I expect to get a straight answer to that question on FR...

That would be the Irish monks buddy.

[Billthedrill]

The real, aching irony is that what we really got from Arab civilization was, of all things, religious tolerance. Hard to believe when viewing contemporary Islamic theocracies, but it's a fact. They were the only ones to manage multiple religions in the same area without extensive bloodshed, even the Romans couldn't manage that.

It was this that enabled the Arabic component of Islam to survive the Turkish takeover of the secular government functions - they maintained the caliphate, the religious end, and gave the sultanate, the governing part, to the Turks. When the Turks withdrew from imperial government and went secular in 1917, all that was left was the religious end, which had been effectively disempowered for half a millennium. It is for this reason that current Arabic governments do not display the tolerant characteristics they did in the beginning if Islam, and why religious fervor has taken on a new stridency in the Arab world. Islam misses its secular counterweight - it misses the Turks.

[meandog]

It really could be argued that Arab Civilization ended with Islam...just look at the history before Mohammad: Babylon, Egypt, Ur, Asyria, Hittite kingdoms--the list is endless. About the only thing Islam has going for it is Saladin and Suliman...

[aristotleman]

The only good thing Islam created was the Turks.

[VOA]

bump

[Dialup Llama]

What in the CEO mind makes it seem like a good idea to give expression to such silliness?

[galt-jw]

islam is tyranny of spirit in a way communism never dreamed of.