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Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 19
6/24/02 | Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 19

Posted on 06/23/2002 10:08:41 PM PDT by stlnative

Please keep adding 6/24/02 dated Elizabeth Smart updates to this thread...
Remember to keep checking back to this thread today for
today's developing news on the Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping.

Some people may consider today to be actually day 20, I count 1 day for each
24 hours that have passed since Elizabeth was kidnapped.


Links

Suspect being held by FBI in Smart case in SLC - 6/23/02 10pm
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 18
Elizabeth Smart Kidnapping - Daily News/Chat Thread - Day 17


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bretedmunds; elizabethsmart; kidnapping; richardalbertricci; robertalbertricci; utah
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To: Illbay
"Opinion" is one thing. Vile slander is another.

I do not recall posting any vile slander. In fact, I do not recall seeing any vile slander here lately. Unless one counts your own.
321 posted on 06/24/2002 6:13:26 PM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Illbay
Well, as long as we're discussing what the police have said, remember they said they had gotten "a tremendous amount of information" from Mary Katherine. I question whether all of that information had simply to do with what she saw on that particular night. Once again, I don't think we are even CLOSE to having all of the clues here.
322 posted on 06/24/2002 6:16:04 PM PDT by freedox
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To: Illbay
There are 4 choices ~

1. Dr Laura hater

2. a member of ACLU

3. Madelyn O'Hare Follower

4. Bad hair day:)

323 posted on 06/24/2002 6:17:29 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Boatlawyer
"But what is it when someone comments that they just don't like the way Ed Smart looked on TV, or that the story seems fishy because the police haven't shown MK a photo, or that Tom Smart is "wierd." To my mind those aren't ideas, they are aspersions."

I'll agree with most of that. I don't think that questioning the story because of a lack of a photo being shown is an aspersion on anyone, though.

"I think you've yet again confused my comments with Illbay's."

Ah, I think you're right. My apologies, again.

"Explaining that Ricci seems like a likelier suspect than the NE gay porn theory which is opportunistic rubbish based on Ed Smart's less-than-Mr. Universe appearance"

Very valid, again. Although I do believe that since Edmunds has been ruled out (he was considered a "likely suspect" by some last night), then it's reasonable to ask about if...if...Ricci is ruled out, for whatever reason, what comes next.

324 posted on 06/24/2002 6:21:17 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: Illbay
"Not only are they bullying, they are based on NOTHING: NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER"

Dude, just calm down, okay? From seeing you on other threads, you seem like a reasonable, decent guy. I could say that your earlier statement that these simple questions are based on anti-Mormon bigotry ("make no mistake", I believe you said) are also based on no evidence, and are just as slanderous. I believe that everyone here is just as anxious to have Elizabeth found safe as you are. Maybe you are just more concerned about this case because of your own wonderful daughters, but I do think you owe an apology to those whom you've called "Satan's imps" and such.

325 posted on 06/24/2002 6:27:09 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: freedox; Illbay; Vinomori; TheBigB; Boatlawyer
.......this thing is all over the map

GOOD KEEP THE MEDIA AND VIPERS GUESSING!:)

In all seriousness I have watch for years how the Media undermined the work of Law enforcement on all levels. These muckrakers are out in the cold,

Smart move! (no pun indented)

Like it says on this board

"Loose lips sink ships!"

326 posted on 06/24/2002 6:29:26 PM PDT by restornu
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To: Bella
But with every clue uncovered, the Smart family continued to come under scrutiny.

That's funny, I could've sworn they were concentrating on Edmunds and Ricci!

This is garbage, and the Enquirer--ONCE AGAIN--is going to get the pants sued off 'em.

So why do they do it? Well, they actually admitted in the wake of the last few successful lawsuits, that they still end up in the black after the settlements are paid, because they sell tons of their trash to the small-minded (examples appear on this and related threads).

327 posted on 06/24/2002 6:33:04 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: TheBigB
...are also based on no evidence,...

The evidence is plain to read on this and related threads.

... and are just as slanderous.

One wonders if you understand the definition of the word "slander".

328 posted on 06/24/2002 6:35:06 PM PDT by Illbay
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To: Illbay
*sigh* There is no evidence whatsoever. And yes, I know what slander is, your weakly sarcastic remark notwithstanding. I've tried to be conciliatory, but I'm sick of it. I'll keep standing up to mentally ill, hate-filled, completely irrational bullies like you as long as you keep making yourself look like a clown.
329 posted on 06/24/2002 6:43:20 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: PoisedWoman
Don't know about that, but Ashleigh Banfield just interviewed a police officer who was shot by Ricci some years ago. I just caught a piece of it.
330 posted on 06/24/2002 6:45:35 PM PDT by OldEagle
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To: TheBigB
Theories, real, logical theories make for worthwhile discussion, I suppose. I know I've had my own funny thoughts, not about the Smarts. For example when I saw that Ricci photo this morning, I thought, now that's more like what I'd have thought he looked like from the limited description. Plus, I could easily visualize him in one of those caps. Now, after someone posted the Gallagher pic, I understand why. Ricci probably thought he looked like Gallagher too, maybe took to wearing the cap for that reason.

I also have to depart from other posters on Ricci's looks. I don't think he looks particularly sinister, he looks like Sonny Bono to me. There's also another singer who would have been popular in Riccis youth, who wore one of those caps and kind of looks like him, his name was Felix some kind of italian last name and was in some group whose name escapes me. Anyway, I've known guys who get stuck in a time warp, who would keep the same look for 25 years. Maybe he's one of em.

331 posted on 06/24/2002 7:01:41 PM PDT by Boatlawyer
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To: Boatlawyer
Gretta show

The employer of Recci said he worked the day after the abduction. He was a good worker. He worked all that week and had a good attitude during that week. The F.B.I. took the time cards from the business he worked for.

When asked if kidnapping was out of character, he said.." I am not an expert, however, he was always enthused, and didn't sit down, or take a break. He was a good worker and wanted to work "

hmmmmmm

332 posted on 06/24/2002 7:09:50 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: Illbay
An easy way to put to rest the NE story is to have LE debunk it. The source supposedly came from them. As a matter of fact, if I were a member of the Smart family I would demand it!!
333 posted on 06/24/2002 7:10:34 PM PDT by Jrabbit
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To: Illbay
Illbay wrote: and the Enquirer--ONCE AGAIN--is going to get the pants sued off 'em.

Here's a little quiz:

1.) How many lawsuits against the National Enquirer can you name (other than the Carol Burnett case)?

2.) Regarding your answer to Question #1, how many of those lawsuits were successful?

3.) How many people threaten to sue the National Enquirer without following through?

4.) Why do you suppose people don't follow through with their threats?
334 posted on 06/24/2002 7:10:49 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Boatlawyer
"I know I've had my own funny thoughts"

I'm sure we all have...based on so many things. It really depends on what your own mindset is, as to what kinds of theories you come up with.

"Ricci probably thought he looked like Gallagher too, maybe took to wearing the cap for that reason."

Heh. :) I have to admit, I didn't think of Gallagher either until that pic was posted. Although just from his image, I wouldn't guess he's too into comedy.

"Anyway, I've known guys who get stuck in a time warp, who would keep the same look for 25 years. Maybe he's one of em." Hmm. Maybe so. I wonder what kind of evidence they have, if any. If Ricci doesn't admit anything, what can they do? If they do get a verification from MK, it wouldn't stand up in court, IMO.

335 posted on 06/24/2002 7:15:28 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: EnquiringMind
Enquiring Mind, I want to know! :)
336 posted on 06/24/2002 7:16:46 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: Illbay
But with every clue uncovered, the Smart family continued to come under scrutiny. That's funny, I could've sworn they were concentrating on Edmunds and Ricci! This is garbage, and the Enquirer--ONCE AGAIN--is going to get the pants sued off 'em. So why do they do it? Well, they actually admitted in the wake of the last few successful lawsuits, that they still end up in the black after the settlements are paid, because they sell tons of their trash to the small-minded (examples appear on this and related threads).

As you know and have read from the post, I also asked those who presently have a physical copy of NE if the story was basically accurate. As you can see, no one has posted that it's different. If the NE buys/writes/sells their stories/papers, and note that the sources of their story is also listed, it's the NE's problem..Also note that someone who is a member of the same community and church said they were troubled that the family has not denied this story as yet.

You said, "That's funny, I could've sworn they were concentrating on Edmunds and Ricci!"---when did they stop looking at everyone else?

If the "Enquirer--ONCE AGAIN--is going to get the pants sued off 'em.", it's the NE's problem, but again, I haven't heard of anyone here saying that the story has been denied. There's probably things being said elsewhere that we haven't heard, and again, who knows what goes on behind closed doors? Everyone is concerned about Elizabeth being found alive quickly. As we all know that one of the first things that authorities seize whenever they have something to investigate, one of the first places they go to--the computer to look for trails, whether or not that story is true regarding the computers being seized and what was supposedly found.

337 posted on 06/24/2002 7:17:17 PM PDT by Bella
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To: TheBigB
Hahahah - that was good!!
338 posted on 06/24/2002 7:17:57 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: Bella
"when did they stop looking at everyone else?"

And...please correct me if I'm wrong...haven't they even said now that Edmunds was not involved?

339 posted on 06/24/2002 7:20:10 PM PDT by TheBigB
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To: EnquiringMind
Thank yuh, thank yuh verrymuch...(Elvis voice)
340 posted on 06/24/2002 7:21:33 PM PDT by TheBigB
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