The Strange Socialist Origins of the Pledge of Allegiance

ACLU ^ | 1989 | John W. Baer

[tider]

Back when I was a rebellious teenager, I often thought of the many brave American soldiers who died to give me my freedom. I thought: Did they really die so that I would be forced to recite a loyalty oath to my government each morning at my government school?

[E. Pluribus Unum]

I have wondered recently where the "indivisible" part came from, because the founding fathers clearly intended for the Union to be "divisible," since they had quite decisively "divided" themselves from King George.

My bet is that schizophrenic tyrant Lincoln put it in there.

[Mike-o-Matic]

Fascinating. Personally I'd rather the Pledge of Allegiance was to the U.S. Constitution, not to some symbol of our nation. This is because nations do experience sweeping cultural forces from time to time -- and not always favorable ones [witness liberalism/socialism].

However, I am not holding my breath. And perhaps I simply overestimate the strength of a solemn oath. After all, don't Congresscritters and Presidents swear to uphold and defend to the Constitution? And look how well respected *that* oath is. Hah!

Okay, now I've just gone and depressed myself. :-[

[OPS4]

Perhaps you are aspounding misinformation.
Pledging is no more than asking God to look over our Nation
and letting all know we are proud to be Free.
Your post is no more than your ideology.

God Bless America!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!
Ops4

[Shermy]

Hey, better than pledging to some dumpy royal!

"Socialists", "Liberals" - um, can these people be patriotic too? Why not? (I know, these days they obsess with their foreign "other.")

Best I can figure through the spin of this article, the Pledge might be a flag company plot.

[SteamshipTime]

During the televised bicentennial celebration of the U.S. Constitution for the school children on September 17, 1987, the children as a group did not recite any part of the Constitution. However, President Reagan did lead the nation's school children in reciting the Pledge.

I remember seeing this and thinking how ridiculous it was. Part of the problem was that the head of the Constitution's Bicentennial Commission was Warren Burger. Staunchly conservative was Burger, but not exactly the sharpest knife in the drawer.

[1rudeboy]

Dunno. Legend has it that the melody of "The Star-Spangled Banner" is the melody of a British tavern-song. Did all those patriots die so that I would be forced to drink beer at sporting-events?

[Callahan]

Whatever its origins, today the pledge is one of the few remaining vestiges of American identity, as opposed to the balkanized mult-culti victim state envisioned by Hillary and her ilk. Trust me, if it advanced the libs cause, they wouldn't be working so hard to send it to the trash heap.

[MileHi]

Perhaps the time has come to see that this allegiance should be to the U.S. constitution and not to a piece of cloth.

And the source is the ACLU? LOL!

stop it man, you're killing me.

[detsaoT]

Hint: The ACLU was founded by avowed Communist Party members. Why believe ANYTHING they say?!

:) ttt

[nothingnew]

Perhaps the time has come to see that this allegiance should be to the U.S. constitution and not to a piece of cloth. And the source is the ACLU? LOL! stop it man, you're killing me.

Yeah, me too...I'm so sick of this crap...they're going to win ya know...Dem, Pub, Lib, Green,....Doesn't matter...we lost...wanna heart attack or cancer?...you're still dead.

the NWO is here...just not catching on as fast as it did in most of the rest of the world...bye bye.

FMCDH

[jim35]

"Socialists", "Liberals" - um, can these people be patriotic too? Why not? (I know, these days they obsess with their foreign "other.")

Yeah, I think it may be possible. Personally, I just think that before liberalism came into it's own, we even had a better class of socialist!

[MileHi]

Doesn't matter...we lost...wanna heart attack or cancer?...you're still dead.

Sorry, I have to agree, or at least I feel that way more and more.

When it's time, the best you can do is take a few of the %#@*& with you.

[nothingnew]

Sorry, I have to agree, or at least I feel that way more and more.

Don't be sorry!...That's what these socialist MF'rs want you to do!

Keep yer powder dry as I will, and stay wet if yer anywhere near the fires that the cancer brought upon us...we are now having the heart attack.

FReegards, FMCDH

[nofriendofbills]

My bet is that schizophrenic tyrant Lincoln put it in there.

E pluribus unum = "Out of many, one", yet... you object to one Nation indivisible.

Someone's schizoid and it ain't Abe!

[DrLiberty]

"The original Pledge was recited while giving a stiff, uplifted right hand salute, criticized and discontinued during WWII."

HEIL!!! This sentence and the fact that it was initially written and pushed by a socialist, provides the key behind the whole thing.

I believe it was designed to help indoctrinate youth into worshipping the State and the symbol of the State (the flag) instead of the principles and tenets of the constitution, which is hardly ever taught (if it is its with a liberal/commie slant). It is symbol over substance. It is conformity to the will of the masses. It signifies the triumph of democracy over the republic, even though this socialist was clever enough to include the word "republic" in the pledge, note that he wanted to include "equality and fraternity", like the motto of the communistic French Revolution, which obviuosly was his inspiration.

To me, all the pledge now signifies is blind obediance to authority. Hardly the stuff of our founding fathers, who wouldn't be caught dead pledging to a flag.

[Britton J Wingfield]

My oath is to the Constitution. I need no other pledge.

[E. Pluribus Unum]

Someone's schizoid and it ain't Abe!

Must be you then.