Why July 4 is significant to Islamists

World Net Daily ^ | July 3, 2002 | Mark Robinson

[Linda Liberty]

I thought this was worth bringing to your attention.I guess we'll find out in a few days if there is anything to it.

Why is World Net Daily the only source that seems capable of coming up with this?

Anybody know anything else about the author? He might be worth reading.

I'm also curious what he means by: "the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity". Sounds like he's writing an interesting history book.

[LikeLight]

In-Depth Bump.

[CyberSpartacus]

The Romans incorporated many of the rituals of pagan religon into the Christian Church. One example is Christmas, Jesus was born in the spring (his dad was in town to pay his taxes which would have been in March.), not during the winter solstice December 25th.

[Linda Liberty]

Which phase of the paganization of christianity
are we in now (if any)?

[anniegetyourgun]

Seems to me we are pretty far down that path already.....

[knuthom]

I'm also curious what he means by: "the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity".

Christianity has adopted a lot of pagan symbols which have no biblical origin. The most obvious ones are related to Easter and Christmas celebrations.

[Pharmboy]

Here's a good read on the subject of the paganization of Christanity

There are many references to it in Eliot's The Waste Land

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.

The Germans didn't start to build Tiger tanks in April 1942. This was long after the blitzkrieg phase and capitulation of most of Europe.

How's that for being anal? ;-)

[Junior]

Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.

Unfortunately, the Tiger tank did not come on the scene until after the blitzkriegs that subjugated Europe.

[Rightwing Conspiratr1]

err until April 1942.

[Movemout]

Most people do not let facts get in the way of what they want to believe. The fact that we conveniently ignore our own history is ample proof.

[TomGuy]

If bin Laden is still breathing, and if his health condition is bad, he may attempt another "big" event soon so he can see the results before he departs this earth for Allah.

Some similar ideas have circulated regarding Saddam Hussein. If he feels his demise is imminent, he will "pull out all the stops" and release every evil means at his command.

The conclusion is--these men are dangerous, not only to Americans, but also to mankind. They have little qualms about releasing horrible WMD's on mankind in general. They probably relish the idea that history could record them as having destroyed x-millions of humans.

[Savage Beast]

"(Al Mahdi – the long-awaited Muslim chosen one who will convert the whole world by the sword)."

How characteristic of devil-worshippers to aspire to converting the world "by the sword" rather than by peaceful means, persuasion, love, teaching.

But what else would anyone expect from a "god" that loves murder, suicide, terror, pain, and death--and those who serve "it"?

[John H K]

And when the Germans overran France, the British and French not only had BETTER tanks, but MORE tanks :-).

[Utopia]

Christianity has adopted a lot of pagan symbols which have no biblical origin

St. John also plagerised Plato .. In the beginning was the Word etc... only in the Platonic system, Plato NEVER wrote: "and the word was made flesh". Still, the first part is directly lifted from Plato. Chistianity (at the time) was an attempt to create a hybrid between the vague "word" of Platonic philosophy and give it a human face.

[mc5cents]

Which phase of the paganization of christianity are we in now (if any)?

The American Secular Humanist (Separation of Church & State) phase. Kill god and the rest follows. (Cut off the head, and the body is sure to die)
That phase.

[John H K]

Every single date of the year has had something significant happen in the history of Israel, or the history of Islam, or the history of Islamic/Christian conflict.

You've got basically 1300 chances for a given date to have had something happen.

[Linda Liberty]

Saddam already tried once. When he was forced to abandon Kuwait, recall, he lit every oil well on fire. There were dire
projections at the time, I seem to recall, of vast planetary
ecological effects. Fortunately, American know how and heroics, coupled with the brilliance of the capitalist system,
succeeded in dowsing those fires in a matter of weeks
instead of the years or decades that could well have happened
absent these factors.

[FormerLib]

If anything, the establishment of December 25th as the celebration of the Nativity of Christ was to establish a competing festival to the pagan practices.

[FormerLib]

Kind of comical when you see people use Tiger, Panther, and Panzer interchangably, isn't it?