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Why July 4 is significant to Islamists
World Net Daily ^ | July 3, 2002 | Mark Robinson

Posted on 07/03/2002 6:09:49 AM PDT by Linda Liberty

On Sunday, one of the "experts" in the endless parade of experts on cable news stated the obvious: "I am unaware of any special significance of the date Sept. 11." His implication was that there is no reason to anticipate a terror attack on July 4 because bin Laden didn't use date significance as a basis for selecting 9-11. Although he was technically accurate, he was pretty far from correct.

Bin Laden is trying to raise the entire Muslim world to Jihad. Creating the mystique of the Chosen is central to his goal, and symbolism is the greatest weapon in his arsenal (thus far). Consider what he said (twice) in his post-Sept. 11 video: "… after 80 years, the sword has come to America …" He was clearly referring to the resolution passed by the U.S. Congress endorsing the partition of Palestine (creation of a Zionist homeland) on Sept. 11, 1922.

Experts on American news networks continually warn us that al-Qaida may be encoding secret messages to sleeper cells in their videos and communiqués, but bin Laden speaks openly, relying on us not knowing even our own history, let alone Islamic history. Which brings us to July 4. We, in our narcissism, assume that July 4 is all about us. But to Muslims it is a day of ultimate triumph.

On July 4, 1197, Saladin (Salah al-Din) completely annihilated the 20,000-man Crusader army at the battle of the Horns of Hattin, driving the "Christians" from the Holy Land until the 20th century. And we can be sure it is not lost on bin Laden that Saladin won this battle in spite of the fact that the Crusaders carried with them the "True Cross" (the True Cross was a relic designated by Constantine's mother during the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity).

Consequently, July 4 is a very likely candidate for a terrorist strike, albeit only if the Islamists feel they have the means to achieve a final victory over the U.S.

The first question is, do they? Recently, al-Qaida spokesman Abu Ghaith promised to kill 4,000,000 of us, referring to America as "Hubal." Hubal was the last and the largest of the 364 pagan gods in the Kaaba to be toppled by Muhammad (al-ilah, the predecessor to Allah, was left standing). The image of Hubal was so large that Ali (Muhammad's son and the first Imam) had to stand on the Prophet's shoulders to push it over.

The second question is, clearly, is bin Laden ready to stand on the Prophet's shoulders now? That really should be a role of the 12th Imam (Al Mahdi – the long-awaited Muslim chosen one who will convert the whole world by the sword). Maybe bin Laden has been hanging around a guy in really old clothes for a reason: Mullah Omar wears the Cloak of Muhammad (which he stole from a museum in Kandahar). We all know neither clothes nor symbols make the man, but in an eschatologically-based war, image and deeds together can be larger than life. Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.

It is reported that Bin Laden writes poetry in the style of Saladin. For bin Laden, defeating the Crusader army and knocking over Hubal on July 4 would be the stuff of which epic poems are made.


Mark Robinson is a scientist and author.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: binladen; homelandsecurity; islamist
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I thought this was worth bringing to your attention.I guess we'll find out in a few days if there is anything to it.

Why is World Net Daily the only source that seems capable of coming up with this?

Anybody know anything else about the author? He might be worth reading.

I'm also curious what he means by: "the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity". Sounds like he's writing an interesting history book.

1 posted on 07/03/2002 6:09:49 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: Linda Liberty
In-Depth Bump.
2 posted on 07/03/2002 6:14:32 AM PDT by LikeLight
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To: Linda Liberty
The Romans incorporated many of the rituals of pagan religon into the Christian Church. One example is Christmas, Jesus was born in the spring (his dad was in town to pay his taxes which would have been in March.), not during the winter solstice December 25th.
3 posted on 07/03/2002 6:18:40 AM PDT by CyberSpartacus
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To: CyberSpartacus
Which phase of the paganization of christianity
are we in now (if any)?
4 posted on 07/03/2002 6:20:01 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: Linda Liberty
Seems to me we are pretty far down that path already.....
5 posted on 07/03/2002 6:24:07 AM PDT by anniegetyourgun
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To: Linda Liberty
I'm also curious what he means by: "the initial phase of the paganization of Christianity".

Christianity has adopted a lot of pagan symbols which have no biblical origin. The most obvious ones are related to Easter and Christmas celebrations.

6 posted on 07/03/2002 6:26:26 AM PDT by knuthom
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To: Linda Liberty
Here's a good read on the subject of the paganization of Christanity

There are many references to it in Eliot's The Waste Land

7 posted on 07/03/2002 6:29:49 AM PDT by Pharmboy
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To: Linda Liberty
Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.

The Germans didn't start to build Tiger tanks in April 1942. This was long after the blitzkrieg phase and capitulation of most of Europe.

How's that for being anal? ;-)

8 posted on 07/03/2002 6:30:13 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Linda Liberty
Remember, most of Europe capitulated before Tiger tanks bearing swastikas and the mere idea of blitzkrieg.

Unfortunately, the Tiger tank did not come on the scene until after the blitzkriegs that subjugated Europe.

9 posted on 07/03/2002 6:31:45 AM PDT by Junior
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
err until April 1942.
10 posted on 07/03/2002 6:32:20 AM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Most people do not let facts get in the way of what they want to believe. The fact that we conveniently ignore our own history is ample proof.
11 posted on 07/03/2002 6:32:45 AM PDT by Movemout
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To: Linda Liberty
If bin Laden is still breathing, and if his health condition is bad, he may attempt another "big" event soon so he can see the results before he departs this earth for Allah.

Some similar ideas have circulated regarding Saddam Hussein. If he feels his demise is imminent, he will "pull out all the stops" and release every evil means at his command.

The conclusion is--these men are dangerous, not only to Americans, but also to mankind. They have little qualms about releasing horrible WMD's on mankind in general. They probably relish the idea that history could record them as having destroyed x-millions of humans.
12 posted on 07/03/2002 6:34:04 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Linda Liberty
"(Al Mahdi – the long-awaited Muslim chosen one who will convert the whole world by the sword)."
How characteristic of devil-worshippers to aspire to converting the world "by the sword" rather than by peaceful means, persuasion, love, teaching.

But what else would anyone expect from a "god" that loves murder, suicide, terror, pain, and death--and those who serve "it"?

13 posted on 07/03/2002 6:35:13 AM PDT by Savage Beast
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
And when the Germans overran France, the British and French not only had BETTER tanks, but MORE tanks :-).
14 posted on 07/03/2002 6:36:11 AM PDT by John H K
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To: knuthom
Christianity has adopted a lot of pagan symbols which have no biblical origin

St. John also plagerised Plato .. In the beginning was the Word etc... only in the Platonic system, Plato NEVER wrote: "and the word was made flesh". Still, the first part is directly lifted from Plato. Chistianity (at the time) was an attempt to create a hybrid between the vague "word" of Platonic philosophy and give it a human face.

15 posted on 07/03/2002 6:36:34 AM PDT by Utopia
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To: Linda Liberty
Which phase of the paganization of christianity are we in now (if any)?

The American Secular Humanist (Separation of Church & State) phase. Kill god and the rest follows. (Cut off the head, and the body is sure to die)
That phase.

16 posted on 07/03/2002 6:36:59 AM PDT by mc5cents
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To: Linda Liberty
Every single date of the year has had something significant happen in the history of Israel, or the history of Islam, or the history of Islamic/Christian conflict.

You've got basically 1300 chances for a given date to have had something happen.
17 posted on 07/03/2002 6:38:11 AM PDT by John H K
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To: TomGuy
Saddam already tried once. When he was forced to abandon Kuwait, recall, he lit every oil well on fire. There were dire
projections at the time, I seem to recall, of vast planetary
ecological effects. Fortunately, American know how and heroics, coupled with the brilliance of the capitalist system,
succeeded in dowsing those fires in a matter of weeks
instead of the years or decades that could well have happened
absent these factors.
18 posted on 07/03/2002 6:38:28 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: CyberSpartacus
If anything, the establishment of December 25th as the celebration of the Nativity of Christ was to establish a competing festival to the pagan practices.
19 posted on 07/03/2002 6:39:44 AM PDT by FormerLib
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Kind of comical when you see people use Tiger, Panther, and Panzer interchangably, isn't it?
20 posted on 07/03/2002 6:42:07 AM PDT by FormerLib
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