Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

But Officer, I Didn't Do Anything!
Tampa Tribune ^ | Jul 22, 2002 | JIM SLOAN

Posted on 07/23/2002 9:26:02 AM PDT by TightSqueeze

Jul 22, 2002

`But Officer, I Didn't Do Anything!'

By JIM SLOAN
jsloan@tampatrib.com


Photo by: GREG FIGHT
FHP trooper Christopher Miller directs westbound cars on I-4 near Polk City into the rest area where drivers will be asked to answer a survey about high speed rail.
LAKELAND - They call it a ``Voluntary Roadside Interview.''

But for hundreds of motorists flagged down by state troopers Monday on Interstate 4, there was nothing voluntary about it.

Off-duty troopers, hired at $30 an hour, picked motorists at random and directed them to pull off the interstate into a rest stop, where Palm Pilot- toting interviewers waited.

No, this roadside checkpoint wasn't looking for drunken drivers. The survey, which will cost about $150,000, was commissioned by the Florida High Speed Rail Authority to gauge public interest in riding a proposed 120 mph bullet train.

The experience left some motorists wondering what's next: Publix hiring troopers to corral interstate travelers for a marketing survey?

``They freaked me out,'' said Alan Kent, pulled over Monday on his way home to Clearwater after a concert. ``I thought they had pulled me over to search me.''

A woman traveling with Kent, who declined to give her name, was even more blunt: ``It's illegal,'' she said.

Not true, survey officials say. They said they checked with a lawyer for the Florida Department of Transportation.

``The bottom line is, we can do it. It's well within the law,'' said Adrian Share of HNTB Corp., general consultants for the rail authority. ``With the cooperation of state troopers, the state is allowed to pull people over just to seek information.''

Florida voters passed a constitutional amendment two years ago that requires the state to begin building a high- speed rail network by November 2003. The train could run down the median of I-4.

Last week, the rail authority, which is responsible for building the rail system, conducted traffic interviews at I-4 entrance ramps in the Lakeland area. Sunday and Monday, the authority set up shop at an I-4 rest stop east of Lakeland.

Bruce Williams, who helped design the survey, said interrogations are the only way to accurately target the people most likely to use a bullet train: I-4 commuters and tourists.

The authority could take down license plate numbers and mail surveys to registered owners, but that also could backfire, Williams said.

``You don't have to stop traffic, but you get a very large negative reaction of `How did you find me? Big Brother is watching me through cameras.' ''

Each interview took about 90 seconds. Questioners asked drivers about their travel habits, their daily commute and - a question some didn't feel was particularly relevant - how much money they make.

`Income can be a very important determinant of people's willingness to choose a certain mode of travel,'' Williams said.

Respondents were asked for a general income range and were asked to pick one, not a specific figure, he said.

``If people refuse to answer it, that's fine. We're not insisting that everybody answer every question,'' Williams said.

David Vogel, directing the interviews on I-4, said most motorists were ``understanding and patient.''

But Farouk Kahn of Orlando said the authority's methods were sneaky.

Instead of signs saying ``Traffic Survey Ahead,'' westbound traffic was greeted with red cones, ``Reduced Speed Ahead'' signs and drawings of men digging.

``I thought there was construction going on or something,'' Kahn said. ``It's like a tricky thing. You should tell the people instead of saying one thing and then doing something else.''

The traffic survey will be repeated at the rest stop Wednesday and then wrap up, officials said.

Reporter Jim Sloan can be reached at (813) 259-7691.

This story can be found at: http://www.tampatrib.com/MGA5WPU8Z3D.html



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: donutwatch
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-137 next last
To: handk
hahaha that's funny.
101 posted on 07/23/2002 2:29:42 PM PDT by JavaTheHutt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 64 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale
The right to travel freely IS a God-given right. Public rights-of-way are maintained by government in furtherance of that right. Granted they should be privatized, but there you are. Sorry, you are dead wrong.
102 posted on 07/23/2002 2:38:34 PM PDT by dcwusmc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: Boonie Rat
$500.00 per word per question with a 100-word, 3-question minimum. Cash in advance, if I have to bill you it's triple. AND I get to revoke my answers.
103 posted on 07/23/2002 2:44:01 PM PDT by dcwusmc
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: dcwusmc
Public rights-of-way are maintained by government in furtherance of that right.

When the first government interstate was built during John Quincy Adams admin, he had to go against general outcry that government shouldn't be doing that. He lost a lot of political points in getting his road built.

Those who insist freedom to travel is a god-given right are losing. Right to privacy is also nearly gone, has been since the 60s. All these things are going away, and not because they are rights or not, but because we aren't using the correct terminology correctly. Law is all about the meaning of words, law and logic are almost synomymous in modern language, etymologically identical in root. Property rights are not cast in stone in the Constitution or the Bible; property rights are a result of caselaw. That's where it is, and that's where you have to go to start dealing with this. Vague recitation and suggestion of possible unenumerated rights accomplishes nothing.

104 posted on 07/23/2002 2:50:52 PM PDT by RightWhale
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 102 | View Replies]

To: headsonpikes
Next time ask your mommy if you can use the computer before you attack a decent American.
105 posted on 07/23/2002 3:00:05 PM PDT by FryingPan101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: nanny
Come on, Nanny. Of course I do.
106 posted on 07/23/2002 3:01:14 PM PDT by FryingPan101
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: freeeee
Outragous. Intolerable. Rediculous. Abusive.

And completely part of the landscape in America these days.

107 posted on 07/23/2002 3:04:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101
if that means turning the guy next door in to authorities because he sells pipe bombs at garage sales, you better believe I will.

Well, yeah!

However, he should not be turned in if he is selling them at hardware meets.

108 posted on 07/23/2002 3:06:38 PM PDT by Lazamataz
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 81 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101
I am so sorry. I always get upset when others don't understand the gist of my posts. Again, I am sorry.
109 posted on 07/23/2002 3:13:40 PM PDT by nanny
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 106 | View Replies]

To: FryingPan101
"Next time ask your mommy..."

Oh, yeah; that's decent.
110 posted on 07/23/2002 3:24:20 PM PDT by headsonpikes
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 105 | View Replies]

To: TightSqueeze
bump for later
111 posted on 07/23/2002 3:25:52 PM PDT by the bottle let me down
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: agrace
sounds like a FALSE ARREST. The courts have said they can have "sobriety" checkpoints, but any other pull over with legal justification is in fact a FALSE ARREST.
112 posted on 07/23/2002 3:28:34 PM PDT by stumpy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: All
This can NOT be legal.I know the law is an a$$, but this is unreal!.To those of who drive I-4, any additional road hazard, especially one caused for such an assinine excuse is sheer lunacy.

Since we have more than our fair share of lawyers around here, I expect several lawsuits to contradict the "lawyer" who thinks this foolish activity is "legal".

Wonder who will pay for them?

113 posted on 07/23/2002 4:43:40 PM PDT by sarasmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 112 | View Replies]

To: sarasmom
So next time there is a "semblance" of a police roadblock, I can ignore it and tell the trooper I thought they were conducting an opinion survey, and I do not respond to "surveys' unless I am paid for them.
114 posted on 07/23/2002 4:46:41 PM PDT by sarasmom
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 113 | View Replies]

To: TightSqueeze
Pure and simple invasion of privacy and the courts which have consistantly eroded the Constitution are responsible!
115 posted on 07/23/2002 6:37:36 PM PDT by Soul Citizen
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: freeeee; TightSqueeze; Thinkin' Gal; Jeremiah Jr; Prodigal Daughter; ex-Texan; Fred Mertz; ...
>Outragous. Intolerable. Rediculous. Abusive.   I live near there. And I'm not pulling over for this BS.

You might not have a choice.

Prophetic vision of Bob Neumann.  Click here ---> 38

116 posted on 07/23/2002 6:45:16 PM PDT by 2sheep
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: TightSqueeze

I am sure that's the first thing to cross their minds as a cop waives them to the side of the road.

117 posted on 07/23/2002 6:47:26 PM PDT by Jhoffa_
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: TightSqueeze
Are they stupid, and tipped their hand about their potential range of statutory powers above the law or do they think people are so stupid as to not get the implications? Or do they figure that things are to the point where it doesn't matter what people think; they can't do anything about it using the judiciary.

118 posted on 07/23/2002 7:00:44 PM PDT by William Terrell
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: WindMinstrel
It may be legal, but it can be made illegal. Do we know anyone in the governor's office, someone like shrub?
119 posted on 07/23/2002 7:03:28 PM PDT by Don Myers
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: RightWhale
If you are on public land you have only the rights enumerated in the Bill of Rights and a few assorted human and civil rights statutes. You are on public land by permission whether tacit or explicit. That includes paved and painted public road rights-of-way.

Au contraire:

Article [IX.]

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

Article [X.]

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

120 posted on 07/23/2002 7:04:07 PM PDT by gitmo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120121-137 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson