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Public Sex, Marrying Within the Family, and Dry Wells
Dear Mrs Web Daily Personal Advice Column ^ | Wednesday, July 31, 2002 | Dear Mrs. Web

Posted on 07/31/2002 4:38:22 AM PDT by mlmr

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Where are the mothers today??
1 posted on 07/31/2002 4:38:22 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
Damn, Mrs. Web's got it going on. I've never really been all that impress with "advice columnists" but this woman hit it on the head.
2 posted on 07/31/2002 4:41:28 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
I like her too!
3 posted on 07/31/2002 4:44:33 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: mlmr
If your mother is advocating that you, her young daughter, have sex in the bushes, you have many more problems than finding a place to rut.

That one's a home-run!

4 posted on 07/31/2002 4:50:38 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
She must be FREEPER...She is really "layin' the smack down" on these idiots.
5 posted on 07/31/2002 4:55:25 AM PDT by mattdono
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To: Wolfie
note though, that she didn't mention that sex at 15 in many states is considered statutory rape, and that the mother, in allowing this to occur is contributing to the deliquincy...
6 posted on 07/31/2002 4:58:10 AM PDT by camle
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To: mlmr
Dear Mrs. Web has always believed that one has sex only when one has a ring, a marriage certificate and of course, the means to pay for a bedroom.

Is she joking, or what?

Maybe there really was a time when a good little girl didn't fool around, married one guy, bore him a bunch of babies, stayed home and talked baby talk, and then died having slept with one man in her life, possibly in childbirth.

But why go back to that time? People used to go to bed at 6:00pm too, because they didn't have electric lights, but now life is better.

Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs starting whenever you start these days and 26, getting married at 28 (having lived with hubby for 2 years), having 2 or 3 kids in wedlock, having a rewarding career, being monogamous during marriage?

Personally, I think that's a much more rewarding way to live your life. I'm going to have a lot fewer regrets on my deathbed than I would if I'd followed Mrs. Web's advice. And most senior citizens are coming around too-- I hear they are living together out of wedlock in large numbers now.

7 posted on 07/31/2002 5:05:28 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: firebrand; rmlew; Cacique; nutmeg; StarFan
OMG!!!
8 posted on 07/31/2002 5:06:47 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: mlmr
my mother says is fine with her.

If you've met the child you've also met the parent.

9 posted on 07/31/2002 5:07:31 AM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: camle
"note though, that she didn't mention that sex at 15 in many states is considered statutory rape, and that the mother, in allowing this to occur is contributing to the deliquincy..."

Dear Mrs Web dealt with statutory rape in yesterday's column, or was it Monday! Statutory rape occurs when an adult has sex with a consenting minor.

10 posted on 07/31/2002 5:21:29 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Linda Liberty
Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs starting whenever you start these days and 26, getting married at 28 (having lived with hubby for 2 years), having 2 or 3 kids in wedlock, having a rewarding career, being monogamous during marriage?

Only if we redefine moral.

mor•al

—adj.

1. of, pertaining to, or concerned with the principles or rules of right conduct or the distinction between right and wrong; ethical: moral attitudes.

2. expressing or conveying truths or counsel as to right conduct, as a speaker or a literary work; moralizing: a moral novel.

3. founded on the fundamental principles of right conduct rather than on legalities, enactment, or custom: moral obligations.

4. capable of conforming to the rules of right conduct: a moral being.

5. conforming to the rules of right conduct (opposed to immoral): a moral man.

6. virtuous in sexual matters; chaste.

7. of, pertaining to, or acting on the mind, feelings, will, or character: moral support.

8. resting upon convincing grounds of probability; virtual: a moral certainty.

—n.

1. the moral teaching or practical lesson contained in a fable, tale, experience, etc.

2. the embodiment or type of something.

3. morals, principles or habits with respect to right or wrong conduct.

11 posted on 07/31/2002 5:25:47 AM PDT by Between the Lines
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To: Linda Liberty
Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs starting whenever you start these days and 26, getting married at 28 (having lived with hubby for 2 years), having 2 or 3 kids in wedlock, having a rewarding career, being monogamous during marriage?

Personally, I think that's a much more rewarding way to live your life. I'm going to have a lot fewer regrets on my deathbed than I would if I'd followed Mrs. Web's advice. And most senior citizens are coming around too-- I hear they are living together out of wedlock in large numbers now

On the contrary. I understand Dear Mrs Web's mailbox is filled with heartbreaking letters from people who have subscribed to your hedonistic philosophy.

12 posted on 07/31/2002 5:28:17 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: mattdono
She is a Freeper.
13 posted on 07/31/2002 5:29:08 AM PDT by mlmr
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To: Linda Liberty
"Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs starting whenever you start these days and 26, getting married at 28 (having lived with hubby for 2 years), having 2 or 3 kids in wedlock, having a rewarding career, being monogamous during marriage?"

You're free to try, but you should know that the formula you have described has statistically been shown to be one of failure. Many would disagree right off with your premise that having 20-50 "consensual affairs" is moral. Even that you used the term "affairs" to describe this should be a clue.

Also, there have been many studies that have shown that, contrary to conventional "wisdom", people who live together before marriage are more likely to divorce (not less) than those who do not. Not only is this bad for the couple involved, but what it does to any children that are the product of this marriage is horrible.

But, it's a free country, so knock yourself out.

14 posted on 07/31/2002 5:32:31 AM PDT by Pablo64
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To: Between the Lines
The meaning of a word is the disjunction of its separate senses, not the conjunction. Thus your behavior can be moral without being chaste, even by the dictionary definition you post. Chaste is one sense in which the word is used, but there are many others.

Moreover, meaning 6 is on its way to being archaic-- most dictionaries mark archaic definitions, something seems to be wrong with yours. :

15 posted on 07/31/2002 5:32:54 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: Linda Liberty
Maybe there really was a time when a good little girl didn't fool around, married one guy, bore him a bunch of babies, stayed home and talked baby talk, and then died having slept with one man in her life, possibly in childbirth.

Nobody, anywhere, is suggesting such a thing. You're gonna hurt your knee jerking it like that.

Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs starting whenever you start these days and 26...

Good grief, woman...fifty sex partners by age 26? That's, what, one new bedmate every two or three months? You'd be exhausted! (Note: "Sex and the City" is just a TV show, it's not reality.)

Nobody wants to return to the bad old days when women were locked in chastity belts, but that doesn't mean a woman (or a man, for that matter) should dole out their sexuality to anyone with a heartbeat. It's not so much "immoral" as it is stupid and dangerous: disease, unwanted pregnancy, the feeling of being used, etc.

It's like walking across the freeway with your eyes closed: it's entirely possible you will walk away unscathed, and maybe even derive a thrill from it. But what's the percentage?

16 posted on 07/31/2002 5:39:48 AM PDT by J Schweinbagel
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To: Pablo64
I'm 45, and most of my friends are of like age.
I can't think of anybody I know who didn't live together
before marriage, and I can only think of two couples
I know well who are divorced. Also, the studies you cite
are careful not to confuse causality with correlation,
about which there is no data other than anecdotal.
17 posted on 07/31/2002 5:41:52 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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To: Linda Liberty
No.
18 posted on 07/31/2002 5:41:55 AM PDT by sauropod
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To: Linda Liberty
Don't you guys think one can lead a moral and happy life by, say, having a series of maybe 20-50 consensual affairs

I don't know, BUT
I may be in a RUT
Or didn't make the CUT
20-50 sounds like a GLUT
Then again, maybe I'm a NUT
One must really have to STRUT
And not live in a HUT

.... I think there's a name for someone like that, but I can't for the life of me think what it is ....

19 posted on 07/31/2002 5:47:27 AM PDT by benjaminthomas
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To: J Schweinbagel
Good grief, woman...fifty sex partners by age 26? That's, what, one new bedmate every two or three months? You'd be exhausted! (Note: "Sex and the City" is just a TV show, it's not reality.)

You're not energetic enough for me, try living life with some gusto, its passing you by. But the women on sex and the city are deeply unhappy-- IMHO a happy and moral life includes children, which implies settling down by 30 or so. Those women are selfish and paying the price.

Nobody wants to return to the bad old days when women were locked in chastity belts

you evidently didn't read what Mrs. Web wrote, and I quote: Dear Mrs. Web has always believed that one has sex only when one has a ring, a marriage certificate and of course, the means to pay for a bedroom.

Evidently, most of the fuddy duddys on this thread support that sentiment.

20 posted on 07/31/2002 5:48:27 AM PDT by Linda Liberty
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