NYPD “Phase Three” Malfunctions (Glock Problems)

The Gun Zone ^ | 2002 | Sean L. McMahon, Lieutenant, NYPD, Retired

[45Auto]

So begins the typical conversation about an annoying gremlin that has been irritating the New York City Police Department Firearms and Tactics Section (FTS) and Glock, Inc. for approximately six years. When NYPD began experiencing a specific type of malfunction, apparently endemic to the Glock Model 19 service weapon, sometime in 1996, the FTS coined the term "Phase Three" to identify this particular non-reducible stoppage, described as basically a jam where a fired casing is partially extracted, the case rim still solidly lodged under the extractor with the mouth of the casing firmly wedged against the barrel hood. The casing is not vertical in position as in a stovepipe malfunction, but rather horizontal, exactly on the same plane as would be a cartridge loaded in the chamber but higher.

[45Auto]

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[dd5339]

Ping for further study.

Semper Fi

[MoscowMike]

Howdy

Aww, c'mon, us non glock folks are eating it up!

I doan like em never will.

[Travis McGee]

Glock Ping.

[thegreatbeast]

I couldn't read the entire post but the end result is scary. If you're a cop and your gun jams while using it then you, my friend, have screwed the pooch. No shi*!

[M. T. Cicero II]

M1911 A1 .45 ACP. Any questions?

[AnAmericanMother]

Paging newwahoo! Paging newwahoo!

If you did get a Glock, look out for this one.

Otherwise, enjoy your Sig &;-)

[Boonie Rat]

If you're a cop and your gun jams while using it then you, my friend, have screwed the pooch. No shi*!

New York Reload = Drop it and grab the backup.

What! You don't carry a backup!!!

Boonie Rat

MACV SOCOM, PhuBai/Hue '65-'66

[Vic3O3]

The answer is simple: SIG.

[Vic3O3]

Ping too

[PackerBoy]

M1911 A1 .45 ACP. Any questions?

Amen.

[CWRWinger]

..a Model 19 that suffered Phase Three stoppages so consistently that he had no choice but to get rid of it.

May have to stay away from used Glocks for a while.

[humblegunner]

Bump.

[Lurker]

From your keyboard to Gods ear....

L

[Pistolshot]

I hope Glock figures this problem out. Not that I have a like or dislike for the Glock pattern, all those I have owned shot extremely well and I wind up selling them. I am a 1911 pattern shooter. Properly setup this pattern will provide reliable service over a LONG extensive life. The better quality produced 1911's shoot extremely well out of the box with good triggers and accuracy.

Glocks are accurate and for the most part reliable, the anti-Glock fans are probably dancing knowing that the "ultimate design for the 21st Century" is having problems.

Problems like this sooner or later involve the government in "consumer protection".

That's bad news for all gun-owners.

[bruoz]

"M1911 A1 .45 ACP. Any questions?

My military issue 1911 A1 is the most ammo sensitive hand gun that I own. The Glock problem mentioned in the post sounds like an ammo problem to me.

[KLT]

Ping ya all...especially NYCcop

[45Auto]

I have no doubt that Glock will successfully address both the "Phase Three" malfunction and the more serious "out-of-battery" firing of the model 20-somethings. I hope they do so before the "regulating authorities", i.e., the simpletons in elected public office, feel they just have to pass more stupid consumer protection/anti-second amendment laws.

My favorite semiauto is the Model of 1911 in caliber .45 ACP. Its no accident that gun has been in the hands of millions of Americans for nearly a hundred years. Its design is nothing short of genius.

[Grampa Dave]

KLT thanks for the ping.

Glock Rocks, it is time to defend your name here!