Posted on 08/03/2002 10:16:57 AM PDT by justshe
(Regarding the answer to stopping the 'in-house wars')
The answer is for everyone to just stop doing it.
I know that is hard for some, because things have gotten to the point where now things are personal. There are wounds in some cases, and in others there is anger. Makes it really hard for people to stand down. Unfortunately, I am pretty sure it has been planned this way.
Earlier tonight thanks to a tip from someone who I wish I had listened to earlier, we discovered someone who had at least 8 different accounts. One bashed Horowitz, Swaggert, and Art Bell. Another bashed Keyes. Another posted as a rabid Keyester. Another posted as a Klayman basher. Several seemed to have a thing for mocking Registered.
What was the guy's game? Here is a graphic and caption off of the profile of one of them:
Yes, he wanted to get people fighting to where they would walk away.
One of this guy's incarnations posted a piece or two from anarchist website strike-the-root, which to me hints to what his ideology is. It would also explain why he had a knack for going after the DC chapter folks. I recall nrkybill (anarchy Bill) had some issues with you all. They are not the same people, I don't think, but if their ideology is the same and their main targets are the same, then it is possible that there is some connection.
Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.
There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.
And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there.
I've asked this before. I'll ask it again. (And this is not aimed at you, ... but at the forum). Please stop it with the personal attacks. One can have a rip-roaring take-it-to-the-mat political debate with someone without getting personal, without resorting to childish taunts, and still not have it be bland.
And the best thing that one can do otherwise is to use a little self-enforcement. A Bushie telling a Bushie to knock off the insults is going to probably work better than a Keyester telling a Bushie to knock off the insults, and vice versa.
My flame suits are back on, so everyone have at it again. But please at least think about it. Thanks, AM
How pot? How kettle.
There are plenty flying monkeys among the Bush Loyalists, who do little to "police their own."
Obviously, the goal is to drive people away. This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.
There are two options, really. People can help us out in finding them by refusing to take part in the flame wars and being understanding when a person gets sent to the cooler, so that eventually the real problem children are rooted out.
And the other option is to let them win by letting them drive you away- with you being people from every single conservative faction we have. Rest assured though, if that one happens, if you make another home and it starts being successful, they will come there and do it to you there. ============================================================
There are dedicated groups who dedicate their entire lives to destroying effective conservative sites.
They know that an effective, growing and cohesive Free Republic is the worse nightmare of the left wingers.
Most often they are the great pretenders, pretending to be unhappy conservatives. They come on any thread blaming the Republicans, president Bush, a Republican Governor and even a Republican Candidate like Bill Simon for anything that happens or doesn't happen.
They love to cite the left wing maggot articles from the NY Slimes, the DC Compost, LA Slimes or the SF Gay Rhonicle when they lie about is happening. Then their buddies drop in and agree with their what appears to be disgruntled right wing sentiments.
They act like they have a daily quota of posting electronic lynching replies to any thread that appears. Makes you wonder if the DNC doesn't have them on their payrolls.
They remind me of a suicide bomber trying to blowup class rooms in Israel. Of course they never get hurt. They just explode the electronic bomb that destroys the thread.
As our Admin Moderator noted, "They are reall agent provocatuers, who are intent on destoying the effectivess of Free Republic.
So maybe we should label them as FREEPAKAZIS! I refer to them as the Axis of Whining Weasels!
You've just said the magic words!
Click the Duck!
Well that comes as a shock, and I know a few folks I'd like to ping. If they are still here.
It is common sense that on a conservative board, those who criticize an ascendant conservative will find their cause joined by non-cons seeking to undermine the movement.
I think the moderator correctly pointed out:
This is not happening on just one side, it is happening on all sides. It is a form of disruption that relies on the cover of good people engaging in flame wars with them so that the disruptors seem part of the mass rather than the agent provocatuers that they are.
We don't KNOW that some of the those taking the other side of the issue from the "bashers" aren't engaging in the same goal, do we?
I think the moderator's point, is that ALL sides need to honestly monitor themselves and not allow civility to be sacrificed on the altar of debate, no?
How are ya doing?
It is common sense that on a conservative board, those who criticize an ascendant conservative will find their cause joined by non-cons seeking to undermine the movement.My counterpoint shouldn't be taken as building the case for the self-congratulation of Bush Loyalists.
It is also common sense that disruptors will try any angle of attack... including hiding in plain sight among the Bushies, where there are more than a few trolls.
Yes.
Of course, those who are holier than thee and me may certainly consider themselves exempt.
Flag me when you see it, or a unicorn.
Intriguing. This must be a long-term strategy. Establishing oneself to hundreds of FReepers and thousands of lurkers over weeks and months as a loyal GOP member and then, suddenly, turning and taking all the foolish Bush-supporters with them. No doubt the plot for the next Austin Powers film.
RBA, you might ask around if I haven't stepped into the fray on behalf of a Bushie on occasion.
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