Man wins injunction on woman's abortion

Washington Times ^ | 8/05/02 | Joann Loviglio, AP

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PHILADELPHIA

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

A bump for small victories

[StriperSniper]

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[Hoosier-Daddy]

I keep hearing how a woman has a right to decide what to do with her own body, and frankly, I agree. If a woman needs a wart removed, or liposuction, that's fine. But the argument that the fetus is a woman's body is specious: a child is a unique dna combination of the mother and father. It is not, on any level, a part of her body. To the body, the fetus is a foreign invader and only thru some remarkable gyrations of nature is the body able to accept the fetus growing inside. It is a astonishing and beautiful act of creation, not a wart, or mere tissue to be sucked from a woman's body.

[nightdriver]

At least they are refering this kid as a "baby" instead of a "fetus."

When are they going to address the aspect of DNA of the baby being different, thereby proving that it is NOT just more of the body of the woman?

[sixmil]

Finally, some semblance of justice in the world!

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

Wow! I'm impressed! I hope this gets widespread coverage.

[SkyPilot]

it's a miscarriage of justice....," said Susan Fritchey, a lawyer with the Women's Law Project and co-counsel for Miss Meyers.

[cherry]

I am against abortion because it to me is killing and mutilating a child...

however, in no way should anybody but the mom have a say over her body and what is going on in her body...

imagine Nazi germany....or more recently...in Romania...forcing women to carry children,,,forcing pregancy on women....

I am as much against forcing birth from a woman as I am in forcing an ABORTION on a woman....it all smacks of Nazi Germany or China....the state telling women what will go on in their bodies..,,we know in China women are forced to abort..and are compelled to kill their dtrs at birth ...statism ..

we will end abortion through religious and cultural changes...not by some judge declaring a ruling...

and besides....this is not a ruling for the baby...this is just a ruling for another adult....this ruling does not establish any rights for the baby....now, declaring a baby has a right to be born would make more sense...

[Robert_Paulson2]

If a woman can force a man to labor with his body to provide for a child through support payments, even if work might injure or disable him, then the father has a right to force the woman to labor with her body to support that same child's life to term.


In a truly equal world of course.

It would seem that if it is a woman's right to choose what she wants to do with her body relative to the child within it.... then the man must have the same right to walk away and not support that child with the fruit of his physical labor as well.

A mans responsibility lasts for 18 years, I think the woman can hang on for 7 or 8 months.

The woman does NOT have the right to kill HIS offspring... however she DID have the right to not get pregnant by up to several dozen different kinds of birth control that are useful, including the ever popular, "not tonight, I have a headache..."

[Persuasion]

we will end abortion through religious and cultural changes...not by some judge declaring a ruling...

What changes are these? When will they occur? How many babies have to die first? I'm all for faith, but we've been given laws for a reason. Laws and religion go together. Ask Moses.

A question: Why can't we just get rid of laws against murder and wait for a cultural change to fix things instead of some judge?

[FReepaholic]

>>...When are they going to address the aspect of DNA of the baby being different, thereby proving that it is NOT just more of the body of the woman?...<<

Right on!

Instead of fighting over when the exact moment of "life" occurs (something that probably never will be determined), we should focus on the moment the baby's DNA is different from the mother thus making it a unique individual.

Our laws say if you kill yourself it's suicide, kill another seperate individual it's murder.

[Mark was here]

Good for him, the baby has the right to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness....

[Free the USA]

fyi

[MeekOneGOP]

Abortion ruling stirs debate

Woman barred for now from ending pregnancy; ex-beau wants child

08/05/2002

Associated Press

PHILADELPHIA - Abortion rights advocates are urging courts to immediately overturn a judge's unusual decision to temporarily bar a woman from ending her pregnancy.

The order came in a lawsuit filed by a man who is seeking to force former girlfriend Tanya Meyers to carry her pregnancy to term. John Stachokus says he is willing to take full or partial custody of the child and claims in his lawsuit that Ms. Meyers is being pressured by her mother to have the procedure.

Lawyers representing Ms. Meyers called the order "a miscarriage of justice," while abortion opponents and father's rights groups praised it, saying that men should have a say in the outcome of a pregnancy that they helped create.

Luzerne County Common Pleas Court Judge Michael Conahan issued the temporary injunction Wednesday. He did not say when he would issue a final ruling but asked both sides to submit briefs by Monday.

Until then, Ms. Meyers, 23, who is 10 weeks pregnant, has been forbidden from having an abortion.

"There is truly no legal basis for the injunction to be in effect; it's a miscarriage of justice, an abuse of the legal system and an absolute disgrace," said Susan Fritchey, an attorney with the Women's Law Project and co-counsel for Ms. Meyers.

Ms. Fritchey and other women's advocates said the judge's decision runs counter to legal precedents establishing that the decision whether to have an abortion is the woman's choice alone.

Ms. Meyers' lawyers filed an emergency appeal Thursday in state Superior Court in Harrisburg seeking to lift the injunction. That court instead asked Mr. Stachokus' attorney to submit additional legal papers by Tuesday.

Ms. Meyers' lawyers filed a similar petition with the state Supreme Court, which denied the appeal but reserved the right to revisit the issue.

Anti-abortion and fathers-rights groups defended the judge's action.

"We talk about fathers negatively so often, about how they don't want to be responsible for their children, and this guy is doing everything he can to be sure his unborn child isn't aborted," said Dianna Thompson, executive director of the American Coalition for Fathers and Children. "Men's rights are trampled on all the time when it comes to reproductive rights."

Mr. Stachokus' attorney, John P. Williamson, said Ms. Meyers, who has a 2-year-old child, had been coerced into deciding on an abortion by her mother, who disliked Mr. Stachokus.

"They had picked out godparents for the baby, she had picked out names, then there was a sudden turnaround," Mr. Williamson said.

"We want an injunction that says no abortion is allowed and this baby lives," he said.

Neither Ms. Meyers nor Mr. Stachokus returned calls seeking comment.

Ms. Meyers had filed for a protection-from-abuse order from Mr. Stachokus, 27, an emergency dispatcher she met 10 months ago. She said he had threatened and harassed her since their breakup July 22.

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Online at: http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dallas/nation/stories/080502dnnatabortion.38f44.html

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[ODDITHER]

I absolutely agree that a woman has a right to choose.
She can choose when she wants to get pregnant
she can choose if she wants to get pregnant
she can choose who she wants to father her child
she can choose why she wants to have a child
she can choose where she wants to have her child

IF SHE DOESN'T WANT TO GET PREGNANT SHE CAN CHOOSE NOT TO ENGAGE IN SEX OR TAKE MULTIPLE PRECAUTIONS.


Her choices no longer just effect her, Once that new life is formed. A father should have just as much say in whether the baby lives as the woman has. After all, what are the baby killers worried about, as long as the mother's life is not jeapordy?

It stands to reason that if there is no emotional attachment to a "fetus" and abortions are just another method of birth control, then having a baby and giving it to the father to raise shouldn't be a problem either.

[Momma Lou]

Well said.

[Audit_Jesse]

"It absolutely stunned me when this happened; it's clearly an error as a matter of law,"

What stuns me is that you and your ilk shout from the rooftops about the woman's right to murder a child. You take it as a matter of fact whereas I take it as a matter of premeditated murder. It's cold and calculated, plain and simple.

"You wonder what judge in this country is unaware that women in this country have the right to choice."

And I wonder what person in this country is unaware that wholesale slaughter of innocents for the sake of convenience is a disgrace to the sanctity of human life. Your fallacious designs on what you term "choice" are as empty as your charges of an alleged "miscarriage" (very telling, that) of justice.

[Aquinasfan]

Great news. I remember an incident at my first job when I was in my early 20s. One of my co-workers who I hardly knew told me that his girlfriend was going to abort their baby. He was pretty shaken up.

I wonder why it has taken so long for a case like this to make headlines?