Posted on 08/11/2002 11:13:46 AM PDT by JohnathanRGalt
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:40:43 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
The "War on Terror" may be raging, but one facet of terrorism is thriving -- and even expanding -- in the United States: the Web site.
Web servers owned by American companies host the sites of numerous terrorist organizations. For the most part, these companies are unwitting in their complicity. But terrorist groups continually exploit these servers to spread propaganda and plan attacks, either on message boards or through steganography, the process of embedding hidden objects in seemingly benign media files.
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Jehadi website ping: (let me know...)
Well shut my mouth....The SF Chronicle gets it right for a change!
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Why companies. Universities count for the majority of hosting these AlArian terrorist professor fronts and web sites.
Because it's the SF Chronicle?
That's just not right. Who decides? Who chooses? What's the criteria?
I think it is still up. Jehad is Crap! -- http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/730132/posts
Yes, I was involved with running a jehadi website (for the past eight months). No one sought to take us down -- I only wish that someone would have at least tried. It would have restored my faith in human nature.
Now we are seeing lots of Muslim groups contacting our ISP trying to get our site pulled. I'll keep posting updates to the "Jehad is Crap!" thread as this adventure continues to unfold.
That's just not right. Who decides? Who chooses? What's the criteria?
The only one that must have that right is the ISP. The ISP has a legal agreement that is signed by the clients called a TOS (Terms of Service) or AUP (Acceptable Use Policy). If the client violates that agreement then the ISP should have the right to remove them.
No one should be able to force the ISP to host terrorist web sites
Yes, for the most part, these companies are unwitting -- someone needs to tell them that they are hosting a terrorist website. Any volunteers?
lavaroise: Why companies? Universities count for the majority of hosting these AlArian terrorist professor fronts and web sites.
No, terrorist professor Al Arian does not host his website at the University of Florida (a.k.a. Jehad U.) -- we've got other information that the Florida taxpayers are paying to host and transmit (Univ. email address linking to jehadi sites) but in this case it is not true. Al Arian's site
Islamic Jehad - http://www.qudsway.com is hosted by:
Whois Information from "whois.arin.net" about 66.113.195.209
Hostway Corporation (NETBLK-HOSTWAY)
200 W. Adams Suite 1001
Chicago, IL 60606 USA
Coordinator: Network, Administrator (AN94-ARIN) noc@hostway.com 312-238-0156
FreeReign: Because it's the SF Chronicle?
Yes, I think the SF Chronicle got it right (for a change).
From what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the U.S. Govt. is not at fault here. The U.S. Govt. is not monitoring, tracking, or cracking their encryption. I've heard this counter argument a many times. It is an excuse for inaction. We need to hear it from an official U.S. Govt. spokesperson.
However, we have Statements from the U.S. DoJ that the U.S. is not requiring the ISPs to carry the terrorist sites
... a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice said that Burstnet's claim about government intervention in its business activities "doesn't sound in any way legitimate." The DOJ's Bryan Sierra said the department has "no legal mechanism to force someone to post stuff on the internet."We also have statements that the FBI is not requiring the ISPs to carry the terrorist sites
A spokesman for the FBI agreed. Special Agent Ken McGuire of the Los Angeles FBI Field Office said while he wasn't aware of this specific case that in general nothing like this occurs. He said that while the FBI does ask for cooperation from people if there appears to be an opportunity to catch a criminal, it is a voluntary effort and not mandated. "If somebody doesn't want to do it we would be hard pressed to make it happen and I don't know if we would want to anyway," McGuire said.Now, I challenge everyone that has ever said that the ISPs, which say they are being forced to host the terrorist sites (Burst.net and Ev1.net) to produce a statement saying that they are.
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