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'Black Hawk Down' Dad Bristles at Attempt to Blame Bush
NewsMax.com ^ | 8/11/02 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 08/11/2002 8:22:39 PM PDT by kattracks

Disabled Vietnam vet retired Cat. James Smith, whose son James was killed during the disastrous raid in Somalia memorialized in the movie "Black Hawk Down," took exception Sunday to ex-President Clinton's recent attempt to blame President Bush's father for the 1993 debacle during a recent interview with Washington, D.C. TV station WJLA.

"He seems to forget that when Bush number one sent troops into Somalia he sent them in by the tens of thousands. And they had complete armor, mechanized infantry, artillery, air cover support," Smith told WABC Radio's Steve Malzberg.

While Bush the elder was president, the Somali warlords "decided to keep a low profile because they knew if they stuck their head up they were going to get it shot off," he insisted, adding, "So Bush number one did it correctly."

But things changed when President Clinton took over, the former soldier told WABC.

When his son's Ranger unit was sent to Mogadishu to capture notorious Somali warlord Mohamed Farah Adid, they didn't have the artillery, helicopter gunship or tactical air support they needed, he told Malzberg.

Smith's comments were prompted by Clinton's recent attempt to dodge responsibility for the episode, where he told WJLA, "Now, you know, I didn't blame (President Bush's) father for Somalia, when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."

Although then-Defense Secretary Les Aspin was forced to resign over the deadly blunder, Smith said he had no doubt that the decision to under-equip his son's unit came directly from the White House.

When he testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee on the episode, the former soldier said reporters privately agreed, telling him, "Les Aspin had nothing to do with this. This was a White House decision."

"They knew how the White House works. They knew there was no way Les Aspin made that decision on his own."

Smith recounted his trip to the White House to meet Clinton, an invitation he suspects was prompted by advanced word on his damaging Senate testimony.

Instead of taking responsibility, the Vietnam vet said the president "blamed Les Aspin, he blamed the Defense Department, he blamed the Joint Chiefs.... he blamed everybody except himself."

At one point, Smith recalled, Clinton even attempted to blame the Rangers "for being too aggressive."

"There were three fathers there," he told Malzberg. "The three of us just leaned over instantaneously and he backed off of that one."

After the exchange, Smith refused to shake the Commander in Chief's hand, handing him instead a 3rd Ranger Battalion patch.

"Don't forget them," he remembered telling Clinton.

"I honestly believed that the Rangers had died in vain; that the failure to provide proper combat support would have made the difference," he lamented.

Capt. Smith also revealed that he has another soldier son now in Special Operations who recently served in Afghanistan.

During a recent conversation with his son's Special Ops commander, he asked, "Sgt. Major, are we doing this one right or is this just a knee-jerk reaction?"

After a moment's hesitation, Smith said the commander responded, "Sir, we've got a real Commander-in-Chief this time. This time we're doing it right."

Listen to Steve Malzberg on WABC, weekdays 6 to 8 p.m. ET with Richard Bey on "The Buzz," and 9 a.m. to 12 noon ET Sunday.

Read more on this subject in related Hot Topics:

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To: bfree
AMEN!
41 posted on 08/11/2002 10:34:11 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: Travis McGee; Blueflag; aristeides; rdb3
warrior ping
42 posted on 08/11/2002 10:44:12 PM PDT by xzins
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To: kattracks; Eaker; All
Did I dream this or wasn't the father reported to have told the soon-to-be-disgraced occupant of the Oval Office that he was not fit to serve [as president] or something similar?

Eaker, thanks for the ping.
43 posted on 08/11/2002 10:53:21 PM PDT by ru4liberty
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To: Fred Mertz
Thanks for the heads up. I did an interview for FR with Capt. Smith a few years ago and cried on the phone as he told me about his son, a young man who would still be alive today if not for one despicable piece of human garbage called William Jefferson Blythe Clinton. I am very much pro-life but would be celebrating Virginia Kelley's decision had she terminated this b*stard.

Capt. Smith refused Clinton's letter of condolence.

44 posted on 08/11/2002 11:11:23 PM PDT by doug from upland
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To: kattracks
Bump for a real PATRIOT DAD!
45 posted on 08/11/2002 11:14:29 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: kattracks
Smith's comments were prompted by Clinton's recent attempt to dodge responsibility for the episode, where he told WJLA, "Now, you know, I didn't blame (President Bush's) father for Somalia, when we had that awful day memorialized in 'Black Hawk Down.' I didn't do that."

The horrific results of a "president" with no military understanding and a hostility towards the military.

But this was actually minor compared to the main result of Clinton's work (in Kosovo and elsewhere): 9/11.

I can just see Clinton talking to the head of Islamic Jihad after the TWA 800 bombing, "tell you what, ahhhhhhhh'm not gonna give you credit for that... watch 'n see..." and he slept well that night thinking he'd done a good job.

Clinton's essential approach towards terrorism was the same rope-a-dope policy he had towards the press regarding his adultery. Unfortunately, it was Americans that lost their lives, while Clinton got away with merely having his reputation sullied.

46 posted on 08/11/2002 11:22:54 PM PDT by EaglesUpForever
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To: Texas Mom; Eaker
"Why doesn't someone like Bill O'Reilly get this dad on the show for an interview and have someone from the Clintoon administration on so it's fair and balanced.."

Because it would depend on what "is" is.

Thanks, Eaker.

47 posted on 08/11/2002 11:27:27 PM PDT by COB1
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To: bfree
I am resolved after Clinton is buried to visit his resting place and pay the proper respect. I am going to urinate on it. I kid you not. I may be kicked out of Arlington for doing so, but I swear I will piss on Clinton's grave.
48 posted on 08/12/2002 12:13:08 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Mad_Tom_Rackham
Actually, this is very much what I had in mind for any nations proven to be connected with the New York City Massacre on 9-11. I wanted to see their entire civilizations eradicated from the face of the earth. Kind of send a message that you kill thousands of innocent Americans only at your own risk. Go ahead and blow up discos in Germany but you kill Americans and you and your wife, children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, sisters, cousins & etc. will pay the price.

I am not kidding.

49 posted on 08/12/2002 12:19:54 AM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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To: Squantos; Travis McGee
fyi

and may God bless the memory of those who died under x42's ineptness.
50 posted on 08/12/2002 12:35:01 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: kayak
Every time I read remarks from the father, quoted above, I get the strong sense of how incensed blubba the butcher is that he couldn't then and can't now shut this man up.
51 posted on 08/12/2002 12:38:17 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
I thought one had to have served his country in the United States military to be buried in Arlington, or get a special presidential waiver for interment there. If that is true, and unless his WINO is president (and even then, I have my doubts) I'm guessing no one is going to sign such a waiver.
52 posted on 08/12/2002 12:45:27 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: bfree
The world will be a far better place when the Clintons are 6 feet under.

You'd have to go a LOT deeper for where these two are going. But then again, maybe the devil is afraid they will take over in hell when they get there.

53 posted on 08/12/2002 12:46:21 AM PDT by Pistolshot
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Bill Clinton. What a pig. What a PIG.
54 posted on 08/12/2002 12:47:53 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: Nam Vet; timestax; Kay Soze; Yehuda; Robert_Paulson2; My Identity; Excuse_My_Bellicosity; ...
ping
55 posted on 08/12/2002 1:00:50 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
You could probably apply for a consession and run tour busses.
56 posted on 08/12/2002 1:01:37 AM PDT by in the Arena
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To: kayak; OneidaM; Molly Pitcher; lysander13135; tillacum; M Kehoe; Miss Marple; Dog; ...
I am so glad that some people are finally beginning to speak out over some of x42's lies. May there soon be a whole torrent of such comments until even the mainstream media cannot ignore them!

Want to tell lots of people about this? Go here:

Ignorance Making You Ill? Cure It!

for links, tools, & instructions about how to contact a pile of different people, and how to send a link to this story right here ( or anywhere else ) to a "mass email" using Outlook Express.


Do be advised that since I increased my volume of mass emails to letters to editors I have gotten return volleys of virus attacks- my ISP filters them out before the get to my PC, but if yours does not, take appropriate precautions to guard your PC.

I take this as a positive- my emails are simply links with no editorial content; so the other side must fear & loath the information even reaching the public.

57 posted on 08/12/2002 1:15:05 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: LiteKeeper
Klintoon lies like he breathes.
58 posted on 08/12/2002 2:13:37 AM PDT by lavaroise
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To: kattracks
"There were three fathers there," he told Malzberg. "The three of us just leaned over instantaneously and he backed off of that one."

Thanks, kattracks. It's good to see that White House story resurfacing again. If I remember right it was reported, at the time, only in a British publication.

The thing I do remember is that x42 did not attend any of the memorial services for the lost Rangers; not at Benning, not at Arlington, not anywhere. Maybe just as well.

59 posted on 08/12/2002 2:59:44 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: Centurion2000
We should have nuked that city in retaliation for what they did.

I never understood why you let them live.

Regards, Ivan

60 posted on 08/12/2002 3:01:57 AM PDT by MadIvan
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