How Liberals Win The Talk Show Wars

http://www.toogoodreports.com ^ | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 | Allan C. Stover

[guitar Josh]

Funny, I always thought it was because they booked 5 on 1's in their debates.

[IronJack]

Im a member of FREEREPUBLIC i aint sceered of no steeeenking test

LOL! As FReepers, it's our job to grade the TEACHERS!

[IronJack]

Yep. The old argumentum ad absurdo. Almost no argument holds at the extremes. The one you hear most often is "Does the Second Amendment give you the right to keep and bear atomic bombs?"

I always like to see liberals' faces (both of them) when I say "Yes. It does."

[agitator]

I learned this lesson 20 years ago. This is precisely the reason that the NRA does such a miserable job of accomplishing anything. The NRA ought to be scaring the **** out of people - they can always fall back on the facts if they have to. The other side doesn't have any facts and the NRA can easily out-scare the opposition.

[gitmo]

Liberals are not winning the talk show wars. On some talks shows, particularly on radio, there aren't many liberals on, among other things. Moreover few liberals listen to political talk shows. It is mostly conservatives listening, and more and more talking to each other.

You're right on, Torie. I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. Conservatives dominate the talk-show arena.

I've also noticed that on these local talk shows that pair up a lib and a conservative, the lib starts drifting toward the conservative viewpoint over time. I think he just gets tired of sounding like the jerk all the time.

[Bernard Marx]

It never occured to him that he was doing the very thing he accused her of.

Of course it did. That's the liberal M.O. It follows my always-accurate Liberal Detection Rule: whatever ugly thing they accuse conservatives of doing is exactly what they are doing themselves.

[guitfiddlist]

That was one excellent article. All points were dead on. The guy knows liberals. But I have to admit a guilty secret. I don't lose too many battles with Democrats one on one. Why? Because I go on the attack! I don't sit there and try to parry the ridiculous charges they spew without intelligence or sincerity. Instead I take the fight directly to them - and I WILL outyell them, if necessary.

And when I've stunned them into silence - I tell them WHY they're stunned. "I fight like you Democrats - and HA! you aren't used to it, are you?!! The difference is though,...I gots facts on my side - and all you got is idiotic sound bite bulls---t."

Yeah, maybe Bush's technique of turning the 37th cheek is more effective, and maybe his 70-plus percent in the polls is the proof of that. All I know is that I refuse to take a Democrat's crap - I relish giving it right back to him/her, AND the rest of their deserved share.

[Behind Liberal Lines]

Horowitz's "Art of Political War" should be required reading for every republican out there.

[edger]

So liberals don't play fair--so what? Remember God never wanted nobody to be stupid. If Americans aren't smart enough to handle this kind of nonsense, they deserve whatever happens to them.

[Bernard Marx]

This report leaves out one of the most important liberal "debating" tactics. They interrupt incessantly when conservatives are talking, disrupting the flow of thought. But if anyone tries the same thing on them they have a snotty retort at the ready. Conservatives, being considerate, usually yield. I've also seen liberal hosts 'team' with liberal guests to constantly interrupt conservatives to make sure no good points are ever made. Alan Colmes is a master at this.

Another very obvious tactic is to never stop talking, no matter what the host says. O'Reilly is the only host who handles this type effectively: he simply shuts their microphone off. There must be regular seminars to teach these tactics. Too bad the Republicans don't have a few.

[88keys]

Other things they do is talk real LOUD and real fast...

plus, I've noticed the technique of taking a breath in mid-sentence...that way, they can continually run one sentence into another, instead of pausing to breathe at the end of their statement like a normal person would do, and giving an opportunity for a civilized non-interrupting person to respond...

I personally can't abide these filibuster types, but considering the alternative, suppose it's time to be as rude as they are...afraid the "talk shows" tend to be viewed as "reality TV"!!

[foreverfree]

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[ATOMIC_PUNK]

So liberals don't play fair--so what? Remember God never wanted nobody to be stupid. If Americans aren't smart enough to handle this kind of nonsense, they deserve whatever happens to them

Problem is your not born knowing liberals are liers and scum you gotta learn it and you hafta work on not getting twisted into emotional crap that they spew NOBODY DESERVES A LIBERAL ! except liberals they cant live by what they preach but they expect YOU TO LIVE THE WAY THEY SAY

[foreverfree]

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[speekinout]

Libs always start their arguments with "I feel..". There is no way to argue with feelings. Conservatives have facts, but the people who dwell with feelings don't care about that.
It's much easier to argue facts than feelings. I wonder if we can ever have a real discussion when one side is talking feelings and the other is talking facts.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

I believe they are talking TV shows they rule on daytime tv

[88keys]

ping

[88keys]

bump for a great article...do we have a way to "bump" beyond FR?!

Thanks and Freegards! ;)

[Young Werther]

I believe that the "sloppiness" is no such thing. If you watch the discourse it is supposed to be polite and fair. If you are booked to a 10 minute segment of O'Reilly, Hanitty et al you would expect that the host gets 4 minutes and each guest respondent 3 minutes. The liberal technique is to overstate his or her position and then interrupt and attempt to get as much of the alloted 6 minutes. In a real debate there are time limits and rules to achieve fairness.

Recently,one of the Fox News "heads" I think it was Vesper lost control of a three way talking head interview and at one point she yelled that she was going to shut off the mikes if calm wasn't restored.

I wish there was a dump switch so that this tactic could be highlighted. I know I've yelled at the screen when this behavior is so outrageous. It will eventually be eliminated by proper moderating. Of course with Dungaphew it'll never happen since his show is all about his agenda.

[ATOMIC_PUNK]

Start emailing ive sent a couple hundred already