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How Liberals Win The Talk Show Wars
http://www.toogoodreports.com ^ | Tuesday, August 13, 2002 | Allan C. Stover

Posted on 08/13/2002 7:25:19 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK

How Liberals Win
The Talk Show Wars

By
Allan C. Stover

   

Election time is near, and liberals will be out there saturating the airwaves with their propaganda—and many Americans will fall for it. Over the years, liberals have honed a number of proven talk-show techniques to deceive the voters. Here are a few to watch out for.

Keep The Argument Emotional

Liberals know they can´t win a debate on logical grounds, so they fight to keep it on an emotional level. Few people have time in their busy lives to consider the logical side of an issue or whether a more cost-effective and efficient way will accomplish the same goals or more.

When a liberal argues that Congress must pass a Save Our Children from Going Hungry bill, he launches into an emotional argument rather than a logical one, even submitting anecdotal evidence that can bring an audience to tears. “Jenny Smith is a sweet child in a poor neighborhood with a disabled mother who can´t work. Jenny´s hungry. She´s hungry because an uncaring Congress took away her school lunch.” Anyone who argues that the bill is so full of bureaucratic oversight and unrelated expenditures that Jenny´s lunch will cost more than a gourmet meal in a fine restaurant will have viewers shouting at the TV, “What difference does it make what it costs? I´ll spend a few dollars more a year in taxes so she won´t go hungry.”

Never mind that we´re talking about more than a few dollars if such programs are implemented. Never mind the long-term “collateral damage” to the recipients and society from these programs. Never mind that Jenny´s mother isn´t really disabled, she´s a drug addict living with an ex-convict, and Jenny has more problems than just lunch. With such emotional issues as children, families, health care, hunger, homelessness, poverty, and gun control, anyone who argues against liberal proposals risks being seen as uncaring, the first step to losing the hearts and minds of the viewers. “You people just don´t care enough to solve the problem of (fill in the blank) in America” is an effective way for liberals to put the other side on the defensive in a television debate.

Add In A Guilt Trip

Once the debate has been diverted to emotional issues, liberals can solidify their position on the emotional high ground by emphasizing the uncaring position of their opponents. “Well, I care about women´s issues,” they may say, the implication being that the other person doesn´t, or, more directly, “I can see you care nothing for the children of America.” These statements can succeed because viewers assume that such distinguished liberal spokespersons would never publicly make such statements unless they were true. The liberals are considered distinguished only because an adoring liberal media characterize them that way.

Change The Subject

When a conservative gets the upper hand, the liberal changes the subject to interrupt the flow. Before the impeachment of Bill Clinton, how many times did we hear them say, “I´m more interested in Social Security, health care, and jobs than personal sexual behavior”? Before a conservative can finish showing how the Save Our Children from Going Hungry bill is full of pork, bureaucracy, and waste, and just a cover for funding other liberal programs, the liberal will interrupt and change the subject. “Well, what about the bill you supported last month to increase military spending by four billion dollars? We can feed a lot of Jennys for four billion dollars. Can´t we do without a couple of high-tech airplanes so we can perform wonders for all our children, for all the Jennys of America?” The debate has shifted from the cost of the bill to whether military expenditures are more important than feeding hungry children.

Complicate The Issues

Americans are too busy with other things dear to them to have the time to unravel the complexities of all sides of the issues. To help bury a factual argument, liberals must make it even more difficult for people to understand an issue by complicating it. In a debate on military spending, a conservative may summarize three or four reasons why we need a strong military. The liberal opponent will hasten to complicate the debate. “Explain to the American people why they should pay for another aircraft carrier instead of creating more jobs and providing health care for sick children. Why does a single F-14 aircraft cost taxpayers more than the school lunch program?” The questions seldom reflect anything factual, but such deception plants a seed of doubt in the viewer´s mind.

Soon, viewers throw up their hands in frustration and say, “This is getting too complicated to understand. I wish someone would simplify it for us.” And how do liberals come to the rescue? They do so with buzzwords and catchy slogans. In the midst of a debate on how to divide up our national budget, some viewers will even be grateful that the catchphrase, “Our children are more important than another aircraft carrier,” saves them from understanding why we need a strong military. Muddying the waters really is an effective technique.

Find Someone To Demonize

Liberals try to identify an enemy for the public to blame for a perceived wrong in society. The demonizing of Linda Tripp diverted public disgust from Bill Clinton´s behavior to a whistleblower. The demonizing of Cuban-Americans was a diversion to save Janet Reno´s hide in the Elian González fiasco and gave liberals an opportunity to try to humanize the inhumane Castro regime. “Greedy corporations” are a perennial target, as are “right-wing Christians, ” cold-hearted Republicans, and the National Rifle Association, among others.

Liberals would have us believe that Americans die from lung cancer not because they refuse to quit smoking but solely because of greedy corporations. People die from gunshot wounds because of evil guns, not because some evil person behind the gun pulls the trigger, an evil person who can be as deadly with a switchblade knife or a baseball bat. There isn´t money to spend on social programs, they say, because greedy generals and admirals in the Pentagon siphon off money for unnecessary weapons. Bill Clinton wasn´t wrong to sexually harass Paula Jones and lie under oath; Paula Jones was wrong to file the lawsuit because she was just “trailer park trash.”

They have tried to link conservative Republicans with demonized “greedy” tobacco companies, but failed because their own campaign chests are swollen with tobacco donations (and the donations of trial lawyers who became multimillionaires suing tobacco companies). They´ve tried to blame the NRA and gun owners for every school shooting, but thinking Americans didn´t buy the illogical connection. They´ve tried to link conservatives with every extreme “right wing” group, from racists to Nazis, but found believers only among the most naive of citizens. They´ve tried to link pro-Second-Amendment conservatives with some radical “right-wing militias,” but Americans have only to hear such spokespersons as Charlton Heston, Tom Selleck, and Wayne LaPierre, among others, and replays of Ronald Reagan´s speeches, to realize that the two groups may as well be from different planets.

Liberals use a blend of these techniques to win over naïve viewers. They win because of their techniques rather than the strength of their positions, but winning now on talk shows can bring rewards in the next election. Our challenge is to get the American people to understand our side of the debate. Heaven help us if we have to resort to the techniques of the other side, but maybe we should.

To comment on this article or express your opinion directly to the author, you are invited to e-mail Allan at acstover@comcast.net .


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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Funny, I always thought it was because they booked 5 on 1's in their debates.
21 posted on 08/13/2002 8:12:08 PM PDT by guitar Josh
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
Im a member of FREEREPUBLIC i aint sceered of no steeeenking test

LOL! As FReepers, it's our job to grade the TEACHERS!

22 posted on 08/13/2002 8:13:30 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: lds23
Yep. The old argumentum ad absurdo. Almost no argument holds at the extremes. The one you hear most often is "Does the Second Amendment give you the right to keep and bear atomic bombs?"

I always like to see liberals' faces (both of them) when I say "Yes. It does."

23 posted on 08/13/2002 8:15:27 PM PDT by IronJack
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I learned this lesson 20 years ago. This is precisely the reason that the NRA does such a miserable job of accomplishing anything. The NRA ought to be scaring the **** out of people - they can always fall back on the facts if they have to. The other side doesn't have any facts and the NRA can easily out-scare the opposition.
24 posted on 08/13/2002 8:20:17 PM PDT by agitator
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To: Torie
Liberals are not winning the talk show wars. On some talks shows, particularly on radio, there aren't many liberals on, among other things. Moreover few liberals listen to political talk shows. It is mostly conservatives listening, and more and more talking to each other.

You're right on, Torie. I was wondering if anyone was going to point this out. Conservatives dominate the talk-show arena.

I've also noticed that on these local talk shows that pair up a lib and a conservative, the lib starts drifting toward the conservative viewpoint over time. I think he just gets tired of sounding like the jerk all the time.

25 posted on 08/13/2002 8:23:40 PM PDT by gitmo
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To: ladyinred
It never occured to him that he was doing the very thing he accused her of.

Of course it did. That's the liberal M.O. It follows my always-accurate Liberal Detection Rule: whatever ugly thing they accuse conservatives of doing is exactly what they are doing themselves.

26 posted on 08/13/2002 8:27:03 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
That was one excellent article. All points were dead on. The guy knows liberals. But I have to admit a guilty secret. I don't lose too many battles with Democrats one on one. Why? Because I go on the attack! I don't sit there and try to parry the ridiculous charges they spew without intelligence or sincerity. Instead I take the fight directly to them - and I WILL outyell them, if necessary.

And when I've stunned them into silence - I tell them WHY they're stunned. "I fight like you Democrats - and HA! you aren't used to it, are you?!! The difference is though,...I gots facts on my side - and all you got is idiotic sound bite bulls---t."

Yeah, maybe Bush's technique of turning the 37th cheek is more effective, and maybe his 70-plus percent in the polls is the proof of that. All I know is that I refuse to take a Democrat's crap - I relish giving it right back to him/her, AND the rest of their deserved share.

27 posted on 08/13/2002 8:29:38 PM PDT by guitfiddlist
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To: IronJack; ATOMIC_PUNK
Horowitz's "Art of Political War" should be required reading for every republican out there.
28 posted on 08/13/2002 8:30:46 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
So liberals don't play fair--so what? Remember God never wanted nobody to be stupid. If Americans aren't smart enough to handle this kind of nonsense, they deserve whatever happens to them.
29 posted on 08/13/2002 8:32:45 PM PDT by edger
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
This report leaves out one of the most important liberal "debating" tactics. They interrupt incessantly when conservatives are talking, disrupting the flow of thought. But if anyone tries the same thing on them they have a snotty retort at the ready. Conservatives, being considerate, usually yield. I've also seen liberal hosts 'team' with liberal guests to constantly interrupt conservatives to make sure no good points are ever made. Alan Colmes is a master at this.

Another very obvious tactic is to never stop talking, no matter what the host says. O'Reilly is the only host who handles this type effectively: he simply shuts their microphone off. There must be regular seminars to teach these tactics. Too bad the Republicans don't have a few.

30 posted on 08/13/2002 8:35:45 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: Selara
Other things they do is talk real LOUD and real fast...

plus, I've noticed the technique of taking a breath in mid-sentence...that way, they can continually run one sentence into another, instead of pausing to breathe at the end of their statement like a normal person would do, and giving an opportunity for a civilized non-interrupting person to respond...

I personally can't abide these filibuster types, but considering the alternative, suppose it's time to be as rude as they are...afraid the "talk shows" tend to be viewed as "reality TV"!!

31 posted on 08/13/2002 8:35:46 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
bump
32 posted on 08/13/2002 8:39:09 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: edger
So liberals don't play fair--so what? Remember God never wanted nobody to be stupid. If Americans aren't smart enough to handle this kind of nonsense, they deserve whatever happens to them

Problem is your not born knowing liberals are liers and scum you gotta learn it and you hafta work on not getting twisted into emotional crap that they spew NOBODY DESERVES A LIBERAL ! except liberals they cant live by what they preach but they expect YOU TO LIVE THE WAY THEY SAY

33 posted on 08/13/2002 8:40:31 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
bump
34 posted on 08/13/2002 8:41:03 PM PDT by foreverfree
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To: piasa
Libs always start their arguments with "I feel..". There is no way to argue with feelings. Conservatives have facts, but the people who dwell with feelings don't care about that.
It's much easier to argue facts than feelings. I wonder if we can ever have a real discussion when one side is talking feelings and the other is talking facts.
35 posted on 08/13/2002 8:41:34 PM PDT by speekinout
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To: gitmo
I believe they are talking TV shows they rule on daytime tv
36 posted on 08/13/2002 8:42:23 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
ping
37 posted on 08/13/2002 8:48:18 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
bump for a great article...do we have a way to "bump" beyond FR?!

Thanks and Freegards! ;)

38 posted on 08/13/2002 8:52:16 PM PDT by 88keys
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To: Paul Atreides
I believe that the "sloppiness" is no such thing. If you watch the discourse it is supposed to be polite and fair. If you are booked to a 10 minute segment of O'Reilly, Hanitty et al you would expect that the host gets 4 minutes and each guest respondent 3 minutes. The liberal technique is to overstate his or her position and then interrupt and attempt to get as much of the alloted 6 minutes. In a real debate there are time limits and rules to achieve fairness.

Recently,one of the Fox News "heads" I think it was Vesper lost control of a three way talking head interview and at one point she yelled that she was going to shut off the mikes if calm wasn't restored.

I wish there was a dump switch so that this tactic could be highlighted. I know I've yelled at the screen when this behavior is so outrageous. It will eventually be eliminated by proper moderating. Of course with Dungaphew it'll never happen since his show is all about his agenda.

39 posted on 08/13/2002 9:02:42 PM PDT by Young Werther
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To: 88keys
Start emailing ive sent a couple hundred already
40 posted on 08/13/2002 9:10:17 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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