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BadJoe/JimRob Dispute Ended - Free Republic Train Wreck Derailed
Free Republic | August 26, 2002 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/26/2002 7:21:32 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Most of you know that a battle has been raging over the last several weeks between me and BadJoe regarding some of our moderating policies. Looked pretty bad there for awhile. Joe was going to resign from Free Republic and there was even a dust up regarding the monthly donors and how the records would be turned over to a new credit card service.

I am happy to report that today that battle has officially ended and Free Republic may have avoided being fatally damaged in a disastrous train wreck. As it is, the only losses suffered were a few black eyes and a lost ear or two. Fractures and abrasions were suffered, but no major bones broken or organs punctured. Hurt feelings, bruised egos, dampened spirits, damaged bodies are now all on the mend. A satisfactory agreement has been reached between all warring parties as to how we will continue forward in our fight for Freedom.

Summary of today's agreement between BadJoe and JimRob:

  1. Jim to reinstate the observer program with between 2-4 members of his choosing. Joe may suggest nominees.

  2. Jim to put up a post to this effect, including his boilerplate guideline to the mods.

  3. Jim will work with John on writing a subroutine or program that lists the banned comments, banned threads and names of banishees, that Joe will have access to.

  4. Joe will process the Sept fundraiser cc's, and work with Jim and whomever is taking over the program to effect a smooth transition. Joe will continue to work on the fundraisers as a volunteer but will not run the program.

We will be working on a moderator policy manual (the boilerplate guidelines) and will post it as soon as completed. For now, I will say that we do not want racist material, anti-Semitism, religion bashing, tin-foil hat material, leftist propaganda (used to smear or bash conservatives), profanity, vulgarity, pornography, excessive flaming, insults or feuds, liberals, leftists, marxists, etc., are generally not welcome as are multiple screen names, disruptors, anti-FReepers or returning bannees.

Said material may be deleted as discovered or reported and posters may be warned, suspended or banned depending on severity.

But the standing moderator policy is to go as easy as possible on the posters. Many flame wars and insults and even some minor violations of other rules may sometimes be ignored. It depends entirely on the situation and the posters involved. Posters with unclean hands might as well avoid using the abuse button. We do not want to wade through hundreds of posts looking for who is at fault. We do not have time for it and do not want to act as nannies anyway. The general rule of thumb for a moderator is to always give the poster the benefit of the doubt. If there is any doubt, then we do not delete and do not ban. I'd rather bend the rules than stifle the debate. And now that we have a smokeybackroom forum, we'll suggest that people take their feuds and flame wars there and unless it gets too nasty the moderators will look the other way.

Believe it or not we do not like deleting or banning. We want to attract as many new people as we possibly can, but we also want to run a clean board. And we want to advance our conservative causes while not assisting the leftists propaganda artists in their dirty work.

I know this does not cover everything, but we'll be posting more as we can.

Also, we are in the process of contracting with one of the major nationwide credit card processing companies. Joe has been processing these for us for the last several years, but the job has gotten to be a huge task and a burden on him. Joe will assist us in making as smooth a transition as possible to the new service.

As always, I thank all of you from the bottom of my heart and we are all very appreciative of your support and understanding. I'm sorry for this recent turmoil and hope it is all behind us and we can get on with our FReeping!

God bless you all and God bless America!

Jim


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To: fone
Ditto.
51 posted on 08/26/2002 7:55:48 PM PDT by carenot
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To: Jim Robinson
Really glad to hear this. I honestly don't see how you do all of this! You must have a lot of headaches.
52 posted on 08/26/2002 7:55:50 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Jim Robinson
I must say, at this point, I don't care what BADJOE does, what agreements he is party to, and I certainly don't care about Registered or any of the badmouthing "cheerleaders" on the other side.

I suggest you identify all moderators (and their aliases, if any). I also suggest you rotate more moderators through the needed slots. If we have 60,000+ members, why put the "burden" on only nine? And making ALL their decisions public or reviewable is sorely needed.

Sunshine is a great disinfectant and acts a certain restraint on all kinds of creeping molds and slime. That's why Florida has sunshine laws; maybe Free Republic needs them too.

53 posted on 08/26/2002 7:58:35 PM PDT by balrog666
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE

I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony,
I'd like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company.

Congrats to both of you for the way you worked things out.

54 posted on 08/26/2002 7:58:40 PM PDT by Corin Stormhands
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To: carenot
See JR's post #36. I don't think it is all inclusive. Times have changed.
55 posted on 08/26/2002 7:59:23 PM PDT by fone
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To: JohnHuang2
Would your Highness PLEASE be kind enough to work his ping magic here?

Thanks!

Bigun
56 posted on 08/26/2002 8:01:06 PM PDT by Bigun
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
EAGLES UP! &;-)
57 posted on 08/26/2002 8:01:31 PM PDT by 2Trievers
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To: Jim Robinson; mykdsmom; Howlin
For now, I will say that we do not want racist material, anti-Semitism, religion bashing, tin-foil hat material...

Uh oh, MKM, we are in BIG trouble!!


58 posted on 08/26/2002 8:01:34 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jim Robinson
Thank you Jim.

I am very pleased you posted this.

Joe
59 posted on 08/26/2002 8:01:42 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Congratulations. Graciousness and reconciliation are always well received. I little goes a long way. My favorite example of publicly disagreeing with one's enemy in a respectful way was the opening of Patrick Henry's "Give me liberty" speech (which BTW was also posted on an earlier thread)...

"No man thinks more highly than I do of the patriotism, as well as abilities, of the very worthy gentlemen who have just addressed the house. But different men often see the same subject in different lights; and, therefore, I hope it will not be thought disrespectful to those gentlemen if, entertaining as I do opinions of a character very opposite to theirs, I shall speak forth my sentiments freely and without reserve."

60 posted on 08/26/2002 8:02:27 PM PDT by Prince Caspian
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To: OneidaM; Utah Girl; Jim Robinson
And then when I tell Jim about it, he is so intent on keeping my identity a secret he acts as if he has no clue of what I am talking about.

What kind of conspiracy would it be without an element of plausible deniability, eh? :-)

Just so there is no confusion, Yes, I'm just trying to be silly and making all this up to amuse myself. It's all lies, I meant nothing by it other than to elicit a giggle. I apologise if anyone mistook my goofy nonsense for anything other than goofy nonsense.

61 posted on 08/26/2002 8:02:44 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Lazamataz
For your perusal.
62 posted on 08/26/2002 8:02:57 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
Thanks guys!
63 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:13 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: lsee
Cause he aint sittin on a Freeper Creeper. : )
64 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:23 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: Jim Robinson
We who have 'unclean hands' salute you.

---- Maybe.
65 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:30 PM PDT by tpaine
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To: Jim Robinson
Black eyes, cauliflower ears ear, fractures and bruises and probably some blood there too --------do you guys want to have a picture taken, shaking hands?

After going thru that marathon of a post, with a heavy heart, I'm delighted at the outcome.

You are both bigger than life!

66 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:34 PM PDT by Exit148
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To: Jim Robinson
Our government was in on a plot to hijack airliners...blah blah...
Anyone who posts anything resembling this b/s will be nuked on sight.
Fine by me. Glad all is resolved now! Thanks Jim and BadJoe for all you do!
67 posted on 08/26/2002 8:03:49 PM PDT by Libertina
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To: fone
The following is "tinfoil hat":

The Bush Administration has tapped my phone and is peeking in my windows.
The following is not "tinfoil hat":

Felt gravity on Earth used to be lighter because Saturn was nearby, right over the North Pole, at the time. That's how the dinosaurs grew to be so much bigger than an elephant.
You see, the first one brings discredit on FR. The second one proves we're on the cutting edge of science.
68 posted on 08/26/2002 8:04:04 PM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Gabz; Jim Robinson
I made a couple of comments but tried to stay out of it for the most part.

Jim, great news that you and BADJOE have come to an understanding.
I'm sure that there were talks behind the scenes that we don't need to know about.
I think that an oversight committee of some kind, on the moderators, is probably a good idea. The details can surely be left to you and whoever you choose.

69 posted on 08/26/2002 8:04:31 PM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Jim Robinson
Good News!
70 posted on 08/26/2002 8:05:54 PM PDT by Militiaman7
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
God bless you two. To a new beginning.

I hate it when mom 'n' dad fight ;)

71 posted on 08/26/2002 8:06:07 PM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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To: Jim Robinson
..if I have to give up my "tin-foil hat"..will be tuff but..seein' the LUUVVVVVV here tonight..(gets misty)..great site!..Hats Off to you both!
72 posted on 08/26/2002 8:06:46 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: BADJOE
Thank you Joe. I expect all will improve over time. Hope we can go for awhile without another knock down draggem out. These old bones are getting brittle. LOL
73 posted on 08/26/2002 8:10:06 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Jim Robinson
To freedom and peace.............
74 posted on 08/26/2002 8:10:33 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: Militiaman7
Bob J negotiated this today and laid it on me about noon.

We all owe Bob a big debt. He is a tireless worker on behalf of every aspect of the Free Republic.

Thank you Bob
75 posted on 08/26/2002 8:10:47 PM PDT by BADJOE
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
again, gentlemen, kudos ...
76 posted on 08/26/2002 8:11:10 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: Landru
This is good, yes.
77 posted on 08/26/2002 8:11:19 PM PDT by sultan88
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To: Jim Robinson
Hopefully everyone can learn from this to be more tolerant of each other. We all have our seperate views but have to remember that we are all working towards the same goal. Let's not lose sight of that goal fellow Freepers!

A house divided against itself cannot stand - Abraham Lincoln.

78 posted on 08/26/2002 8:11:19 PM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: Jim Robinson
Hopefully everyone can learn from this to be more tolerant of each other. We all have our seperate views but have to remember that we are all working towards the same goal. Let's not lose sight of that goal fellow Freepers!

A house divided against itself cannot stand - Abraham Lincoln.

79 posted on 08/26/2002 8:11:37 PM PDT by fellowpatriot
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
God bless you all and God bless America!

God bless you too!
Thanks for the Free Republic so much...you guys are part of the reason why America is blessed; people like you, dreams that come true...like the FR :-)

80 posted on 08/26/2002 8:12:28 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Bigun
It is darkest before the dawn. I love intelligent folks that I can argue with who are civil such as you, and hope you will and other absentees participate more. The point is to get the facts and issues out, and let folks who read the posts and articles make up their own minds.
81 posted on 08/26/2002 8:12:33 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Dakmar; OneidaM
No offense taken. :) I thought it was pretty funny that you thought OneidaM and I were the evil twins.
82 posted on 08/26/2002 8:12:36 PM PDT by Utah Girl
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To: Jim Robinson
Example tin-foil hat material: "Our government was in on a plot to hijack airliners full of people and crash them into the WTC, the Pentagon, and other government targets so that Bush could declare war on Afghanistan and other ME countries. It's all about oil and global power."

I agree that such a contention would be incorrect and unwarranted.

Would a "tin-foil-hat" label be attached to:

Exploring the arguably conspiratorial connections between left-wing groups in the U.S. and the U.N.?

Discussing the possible preservation of Biblical artifacts?

Postulating upon the core presumptions that enable the social degeneration of the last 40 years here in the USA?

Response appreciated. And congratulations on your forum.

83 posted on 08/26/2002 8:12:52 PM PDT by Right To Life
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To: *Jim_Rob list
Dispute settlement and latest info on moderation/rules.
84 posted on 08/26/2002 8:13:07 PM PDT by petuniasevan
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To: Jim Robinson
Jim, I am delighted to hear that you and BADJOE have settled your differences in favor of FRee Republic.

Eagles Up!

85 posted on 08/26/2002 8:13:34 PM PDT by Taxman
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To: Senator Pardek
Re: Your #21: A masterpiece.
86 posted on 08/26/2002 8:13:57 PM PDT by RightOnline
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To: VadeRetro
>>>Felt gravity on Earth used to be lighter because Saturn was nearby, right over the North Pole, at the time. That's how the dinosaurs grew to be so much bigger than an elephant.<<<

Well now that explains the mold on my cheese and the foam on muh beer. Muchas gracias senor!

87 posted on 08/26/2002 8:15:15 PM PDT by fone
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To: All
EAGLES UP!
88 posted on 08/26/2002 8:16:01 PM PDT by Dakmar
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
A bump for a long FReeper future together for all of us.

---

Flyer

89 posted on 08/26/2002 8:16:27 PM PDT by Flyer
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To: Jim Robinson
Wow! Sounds like the first step to World Peace!

SING EVERYONE!

I'd like to buy the world a home
and furnish it with love,
Grow apple trees and honey bees,
and snow white turtle doves.
I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony,
I'd like to buy the world a Coke and keep it company.

90 posted on 08/26/2002 8:17:14 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan
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To: Jim Robinson; BADJOE
BadJoe/JimRob Dispute Ended - Free Republic Train Wreck Derailed

Well it's about time!!!

All that needs to be done now is to get the two of you to hop aboard the Maglev, and we'll be all set!


91 posted on 08/26/2002 8:17:21 PM PDT by Willie Green
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To: nutmeg
Train wreck? BUMP to read later...
92 posted on 08/26/2002 8:17:34 PM PDT by nutmeg
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To: Jim Robinson
As has happened regularly over the last four+ years, these kinds of events will only make FR better.....
93 posted on 08/26/2002 8:17:58 PM PDT by SW6906
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To: Jim Robinson
For Conservatives, that's how it is supposed to work.

Throw each other around....move some furniture, get in some good shots...then dust yourselves off and get back down to business. No hard feelings.

That's how John Wayne did it.

:o)

94 posted on 08/26/2002 8:18:10 PM PDT by VaBthang4
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To: BADJOE
What is a Freeper Creeper? I feel SOOOO out of it!
95 posted on 08/26/2002 8:18:16 PM PDT by carenot
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To: RightOnline
It's one of the reasons why no one here has the cajones to hit the abuse button on me, let alone ban me.
96 posted on 08/26/2002 8:18:27 PM PDT by Senator Pardek
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To: Jim Robinson
John had mentioned he was working on a 'kill file' program. Any status?
97 posted on 08/26/2002 8:18:34 PM PDT by niki
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To: fone
Yes, but how about those møøse teeth marks on your sister?
98 posted on 08/26/2002 8:19:30 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Prince Caspian
I am very glad you posted that quote. I now have it copied and will post it on threads where hostility is rampant. I never could understand being nasty to those who disagree, since to do so closes them to your own position.
99 posted on 08/26/2002 8:20:47 PM PDT by technochick99
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To: carenot
So glad you asked.

Go here PCCOMFORT.COM

Of the 80 some people at Friva in Vegas last weekend 14 of those there owned 20 Freeper Creepers.
100 posted on 08/26/2002 8:20:58 PM PDT by BADJOE
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