(California) Delaine Eastin requesting legislation on private home education

Home School Legal Devense Association / Family Protection Ministries | 8/29 | Michael J. Smith

[A CA Guy]

Great news. This was Davis sucking up to the teacher's union that required this to happen now.

[Max McGarrity]

Faxed and bumped. They will not stop until ALL our private property are belong to them, will they?

[My2Cents]

No, I think your comments are well-stated, and your argument for action now is justifiable. All I'm saying is that there will likely be no legislation on homeschooling until the new Legislature is convened in December, and bills get introduced in January and February. Certainly softening up the enemy with carpetbombing of letters now may be helpful, and would not discourage it. All I'm saying is that there is no specific bill to target at the moment, and there won't be one for at least another 4-5 months. If Bill Simon can overcome his own mistakes and get elected in November, that will probably be the biggest defense against the anti-homeschoolers in the leftist Legislature.

[Carry_Okie]

All I'm saying is that there is no specific bill to target at the moment, and there won't be one for at least another 4-5 months.

Considering all the crap I've seen slipped into appropriations bills in conference commitees, I think you underestimate the potential for mischief. Don't assume that the union hasn't long prepared such targeted legislation in order to slip it through in the noise over the budget.

[L.N. Smithee]

Is Delaine one of those made-up names like Kishandra or Vanaqua?

I know where you're going, but you're wrong. Delaine is a thoroughly white woman. However, she does sort of resemble Rosie O'Donnell with her new 12-year-old boy haircut. Judge for yourself.

[Carry_Okie]

Here she is:

Ugly is as ugly does.

[My2Cents]

Once again, the situation is this:

The session ends today. The Governor can, and probably will, call the Legislature back into Special Session to deal with the budget. The nature of Special Sessions is that the legislation that is introduced in the session must deal with the purpose of the session, i.e., the budget.

The only thing that can be slipped into a budget bill is control language for spending items in a budget bill. Some control language even has to be passed by means of a separate "trailer bill." The rules of drafting and placing amendments in bills are that amendments have to be germane to the bill's subject. The Legislature does not act like Congress, which can place any amendment on any topic into any bill. Happily, the California Legislature doesn't operate like Congress in this regard.

While I share the concern about protecting homeschooling, considering the rules of germaneness, and the rules governing special sessions, I doubt a bill as explosive as one that hems-in homeschooling would or could even be introduced in a special session. I'm not speaking wishful thinking, but from over 20 years experience working both in and with the California Legislature.

[Tony in Hawaii]

Or Shi'Thead?

[John Jorsett]

I think I was the first to post a story about this, after hearing the notorious 'Directive' read on the air on the Roger Hedgecock Show in San Diego. I'm sorry to see that it's turned out to be as bad as it seemed.

I think you home schoolers should just sponsor a ballot initiative to cement your right to educate your own kids into the state constitution. You'll be fought tooth and nail by the CTA, but I think there are still enough liberty-loving people in this state to pass such a measure. Relying on the courts to protect you strikes me as a last resort, particularly in this state.

[Carry_Okie]

Sorry, I searched the title when I got the email this morning but I didn't find your thread.

As far as a ballot initiative goes, you may be right. It would be best as a State Constitutional Amendment.

[John Jorsett]

Constitutionally, they must adjourn at midnight (although they tend to "stop the clock" to finish-up pending business). If the legislature does not pass a budget, they may be called back by Gov. Davis into special session. But the session must be defined, and only bills pertaining to that definition or scope can be introduced.

While that might be enough in ordinary times, this legislature is completely out of control when it comes to following the law. They've just gutted an existing bill that pertained to child care and replaced its contents with a measure to allow the State Finance Director to repeal the rollback in vehicle license fees (which will triple vehicle registrations next year). They did this to bypass the public hearings and other mechanisms of citizen input, in complete violation of existing rules. They've such a strong and ideological majority that their attitude is 'the law is whatever we say it is.' The worst part is, they're right. Perhaps a court will rule against them at some point, but it will be years before that happens. Look at the out-of-state vehicle fees they were collecting for ten years before a court finally said, 'uh-uh, unconstitutional'. In this climate, I wouldn't trust the rule of law to come to my rescue in a timely manner.

[southern rock]

Don't worry! As a result of my unfortunate encounters on that other thread today, I am fully convinced that all Delaine Eastin need do is announce that all California public schools will immediately institute a dress code and corporal punishment, and all these "outraged conservatives" will quickly forget about homeschooling and begin to sycophantically support the govt. schools. Sigh.

[John Jorsett]

Sorry, I searched the title when I got the email this morning but I didn't find your thread.

No need for an apology. I posted mine a couple of weeks ago (in this thread) when this mess first started to reveal itself. I got a lot of skepticism and 'relax'es. Unfortunately, thinking happy thoughts didn't seem to head this off.

[Khepera]

Ahhh the peoples republic of America.... how nice!

[Robert_Paulson2]

Absolutely correct... singular/plural is determined on these words, by the contextual meaning intended. Thanks for pointing that out with a reference.

[hoosierpearl]

I guess Delaine Eastin does not think that parental supervision is supervision at all.
"not be subject to any supervision whatsoever."

That is what parents are for, that is what parents do whether education is public school, private school or homeschool. This is a big putdown for all parents.

[LasVegasMac]

I'm not a KA resident but I'm close to ya.

We don't home school but really wish we could do it.

How can I help?

LVM

[Carry_Okie]

Email the HSLDA letter to those you know in California who care about liberty and the future of this country. Home education is critical to developing the means to take it back.

[aruanan]

I know where you're going, but you're wrong. Delaine is a thoroughly white woman.

And I have a thoroughly white first cousin once removed on her father's side named Dujuana!

[madfly]

bttt