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A Horror Story Every Woman Must Read
Rozaneh Magazine ^ | July/August 2002 | Liz Weltch

Posted on 08/31/2002 1:51:52 PM PDT by LibWhacker

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To: OldFriend
The diff is there is cultural acceptance of one and not the other.

A Dad who douses his six year old son in gasoline and lights a match is not accepted by anyone anywhere in this culture.
41 posted on 08/31/2002 3:03:26 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: AM2000
I think it's acceptable to rag on *any* country that enables and condones such as this. (Especially if that country has a dictator we are doing business with.)

I take your point, though.

42 posted on 08/31/2002 3:09:43 PM PDT by keri
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To: keri
I think it's acceptable to rag on *any* country that enables and condones such as this.

Good point. And for those who don't think Pakistan condones this sort of behavior, I invite you to investigate the efforts of Pakistani human-rights activists who have been trying to outlaw 'honor killings' for a very long time. I will do some research myself on this and see if I can post some links to this thread.

43 posted on 08/31/2002 3:12:03 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: LibWhacker
Please, please, please, dear friends. We must be compassionate, tolerant and understanding of Islamic traditions and customs which are different from ours. Who are we to say that their way is wrong and ours is right? There are no absolutes, as our moral relativist democRAT friends tell us. Can't we all just get along?
44 posted on 08/31/2002 3:16:26 PM PDT by Salvey
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To: LibWhacker
God, that's horrible! So she got a new nose? I wish the article showed the after photo. Thank God for Western technology. I read an article last year in "World & I" about Vietnam. I guess over there they have the odd incident where the throw acid on women's faces --though now I can't remember if it was domestic violence or for political reason. But anyhow, it's horrible.
45 posted on 08/31/2002 3:23:17 PM PDT by Sally II
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To: keri
It looks like my information was a bit outdated. Here's a report from the Washington Tiems, dated August 16, 2002. Apparently, the last Pakistani dictator (General Zia) made certain legal changes that made honor killings more prevalent. Also, some time in 1999 (I got the date from the sigi.org site), the Pakistani Senate under a democratic government refused to outlaw honor killings. If my memory serves correctly, that refusal was due to opposition from MPs in the Pakistani tribal areas (the same region al qaeda is regrouping in as we speak).

However, today, it looks like Musharraf (the current Pakistani dictator) is doing something to stem the tide.. more power to him. Read on..

source: The Washington Times


Musharraf targets abuse of Pakistani women

By Ralph Joseph
THE WASHINGTON TIMES

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan — The recent gang rape of a woman as punishment by members of another tribe has brought international attention on the gross abuses and humiliation faced by Pakistani women since former military dictator Gen. Mohammed Zia ul-Haq tried to reintroduce Islamic law in 1979.

Among the more horrific abuses in focus, besides rape, are such customs as "vani," in which teenage girls may be bargained away to settle feuds, and "honor killings," in which a woman may be killed by members of her family if she is perceived to have dishonored them by eloping or having an illicit affair.

Domestic violence, also widespread, includes instances of women being brutalized and often disfigured by violent husbands and in-laws. Together, these practices make Pakistani women among the most abused in the world.

While such practices are only now being brought into focus by domestic and foreign media, human rights lawyers say they have been battling them in the courts for more than 20 years, since Gen. Zia attempted to "Islamize" Pakistani law by military ordinance in 1979.

Today, another military dictator, Gen. Pervez Musharraf, who does not share Gen. Zia's views, is attempting to roll back some of the damage done by Gen. Zia.

Steps taken by Gen. Musharraf include a campaign to make women more aware of their rights, and administrative reforms that have made it possible for human rights violations to be quickly taken up in courts of law.

Before these reforms were introduced, "you would not even have heard of these cases" coming to light, a federal Justice Ministry official said in an interview in Islamabad.

The official, who did not want to be identified, said Gen. Musharraf has given the judicial authorities new powers to initiate legal action against rights abusers in cases where the victims are considered too weak or frightened to initiate action.

However, some of the facts coming to light make clear that Gen. Musharraf and his officials have a mountain of work ahead of them.

The damage done by Gen. Zia's hasty military ordinances included the legitimization of some ancient tribal laws and practices that treated a woman as the property of a man.

Gen. Zia's military decrees took away from the courts and the police the right to interfere in a "family affair" if a man kills a wife or daughter who has "dishonored" him, or barters away a daughter as compensation for murdering another man.

"A few years ago, the Senate refused to condemn the murder of women on the justification of preserving honor," said lawyer and human rights activist Asma Jahangir. "The freedom of women is still considered a 'strange' idea among [people] who consider them their property."

The Human Rights Commission of Pakistan reports that 150 women were sexually assaulted between January and June this year, while 82 women were murdered and 40 others were victims of "honor killings" across the country.

Some Pakistani newspapers and magazines, doing their own research, have come up with even higher figures. The Lahore-based Independent weekly said that in May, "honor killings topped the table of motives behind women murders, registering 37 cases" just in Punjab province, where the gang rape occurred.

The Karachi-based monthly Newsline, edited by female journalist Rehana Hakim, says that in 2001, 352 women who complained of rape were brought to Karachi's Civil Hospital for medical examination. About one-tenth of those cases were registered by the police.

The story of Mukhtaran Bai, who was gang raped in the village of Meerwala on June 22, might never have come to light had not a journalist heard about it a week later when a local landowner was trying to persuade her and her father to take legal action.

Days after the story was splashed across the globe, Pakistan's outraged Chief Justice Riaz Ahmed took action under one of Gen. Musharraf's reforms.

He acted to have legal proceedings initiated against those suspected to be involved, including the local police officer who had failed to register the woman's complaint.

Justice Ahmed's orders set in motion action by other ranking officials, including Punjab Gov. Khalid Maqbool, a retired army lieutenant general. At least four persons have been charged in the case.

46 posted on 08/31/2002 3:27:26 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: IcelandicConservative
EQUALLY AS HORRIBLE as Lorena Bobbit's little temper tantrum.

No this is much worse

47 posted on 08/31/2002 3:28:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Sally II
The throwing acid on their faces thing is very common in Bangladesh, today. Mostly by jilted men at the women who rejected them.
48 posted on 08/31/2002 3:28:30 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: Kaslin
A nose isn't nearly as vital as a penis :-)
49 posted on 08/31/2002 3:29:11 PM PDT by AM2000
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To: Pining_4_TX
It looks like the article was originally published in Glamour, a women's fashion magazine, so the title is probably just to draw readers' attention. I'm glad that Glamour is publishing serious stuff like this. It had gotten really dumbed-down.
50 posted on 08/31/2002 3:57:44 PM PDT by bleudevil
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To: Right To Life
They should put this woman's torturer in a small room with the woman's father, and the woman's father's baseball bat.

Sadly, he might just pat this monster on the back. My dad would tear him into hand size pieces and then jump up and down on the remains. And then he would get nasty. Your dad probably would do the same.

Over there the story can be quite different. Over here it is sometimes argued that people should not be punished for torturing an animal to death. Just pay the value of it to the owner because it is only property. Women over there are only property.

a.cricket

51 posted on 08/31/2002 4:01:49 PM PDT by another cricket
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To: AM2000
Thanks for the info. The spotlight isn't going away for awhile, either. If nothing else, America's dealings with Pakistan will be beneficial for Pakistani women. Or, so it seems.
52 posted on 08/31/2002 4:02:20 PM PDT by keri
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To: LibWhacker
moslems showing their respect for women again, eh?

Best I not write what I think of mo-slimes right now. Or what I think should be done to about them.

53 posted on 08/31/2002 4:04:18 PM PDT by neutrino
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To: LibWhacker
It's like the DEVIL equals ISLAM (or at least the extremists who act as devils like this!)
54 posted on 08/31/2002 4:13:40 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: neutrino
moslems showing their respect for women again, eh?

Yet ironically in the US it's mostly women who convert to Islam so they can marry this kind of guy. It'd be hard to pity them too much when this happens to them since they had a chance to live better even if never marrying.

55 posted on 08/31/2002 4:15:16 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: AM2000
Obviously you didn't read the whole story. Read this paragraph

Holding her captive, Iqbal accused Parveen of having an affair. Parveen insisted that she had never been unfaithful to him, but Iqbal didn't listen. Instead, he gagged her, bound her feet and hands and hung her upside down from the ceiling. As he beat her with a wooden ax handle, blood began to drip from her arms and legs. Then Iqbal, a barber by profession, traded his ax for a razor. He cut off the lower lobes of her ears, then sliced her nose at the base. "He next used a metal rod to poke out my eyes," she continues, "and then put his finger inside each socket to make sure nothing was left." Parveen hooks her skinny index finger in the air, makes a half-circle motion for effect and then holds her head with both hands as if the memory hurts. When Iqbal finished mutilating her, he cut the rope, causing Parveen to fall to the floor like a limp rag doll "He left me for dead," Parveen says, " and then he took our daughter and left." Parveen crawled across the floor, found a blanket, wrapped it around herself and passed out.

Bobbit got his penis back. Her eyes and her sight are gone forever

56 posted on 08/31/2002 4:38:34 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: ChasingFletch
"I really can't even IMAGINE what kind of human could do something like this"

They are not human. They are some kind of monsters possessed by the demons of Islam, the religion of peace.

57 posted on 08/31/2002 4:47:46 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Long Cut
"The world would never miss animals like this."

Animals don't even do things like this. They are demons. What else can they be?

58 posted on 08/31/2002 4:52:32 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: another cricket
My dad would tear him into hand size pieces and then jump up and down on the remains. And then he would get nasty.

As would most. Even most in Pakistan.

59 posted on 08/31/2002 4:56:56 PM PDT by Right To Life
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To: sweetliberty
Islam sucks.
60 posted on 08/31/2002 4:58:12 PM PDT by Right To Life
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