***Finally The GOP Get It: The Economic Troubles Are Tied To Democrat Control Of The Senate***

Stardate: 0210.13

[jmstein7]

I graduated from Brown U. (and had to deal with the same left-wing garbage you're spewing, fighting the good fight against it for four fun-filled years). But, I didn't need to graduate from an Ivy League school to know that the Democrats are the party of the powerhungry and the Republicans are the party of the people. Democrats aren't concerned with making America better. . . they are concerned with consolidating power in themselves; just look at the federalization of airline security employees. It did nothing except create more voters who are dependent on the federal government for their economic well-being -- read "more Democratic voters". They don't want to give tax cuts to even the "middle class" voters you describe unless they have to -- every dollar they give back to the people is one less dollar they have to buy votes with.

Republicans are clearly better for the economy. In the first two years of Clinton, the economy sank deepeer into recession. Only once the Republicans took control (efectively) in 1995 did the economy turn around. Of course, slick claimed credit for it. When the Democrats took control of the Senate lat year, the economy recovery faltered. Truth be told, they WANTED it that way so they could blame Bush and use it as an election issue this year. That's why they havemade every effort to block economic stimulus. They don't care about the economy, the people, or the country. . . Democrats care only about POWER.

[deport]

Hey tuco, who is the democrats gonna run in 04? Any ideas or guesses at this time?

[The Wizard]

Meet The Depressed

[The Wizard]

my correction, "perceived" flop

[Tuco-bad]

In the first two years of Clinton, the economy sank deepeer into recession

Not true, we were out of a recession prior to the 1992 election.

By your lack of knowlege, it seems you got into Brown the same way GWB got into Yale/Harvard.

But then again that's how the majority of students get into the Ivy League schools.

[Tuco-bad]

No clue!

Hopefully not Gore, even I could beat Gore.

[solo gringo]

Daschle has on his desk eight or nine bills that would help the economy. If he would bring them to the floor for a vote.He has chosen to try and kill all of house and bushes plans.Imho daschle is a rat of the worse kind.

[MattMa]

I'm trying understand more about economics, you wrote "The one year "surplus" has in reality become a huge multi-year deficit (don't care why, folks, that's just the truth)."

Can you please define "surplus" and "deficit" as used in you post? How did you calculate the surplus and conclude that the deficit would be for multiple years? Could you provide sources that I could check out.

Thanks in advance.

[Beenliedto]

I'm trying understand more about economics,

No you're not; you're attempting to bait me.

Thanks, anyway.

[linn37]

I've been saying it for months about time some dump politican picked it up

[WKB]

Uh, $200,000 is middle class, Tuc??

Maybe that is "upper" middle class?

[T. Jefferson]

Now suppose that one of the unintended consequences of that war (and there are ALWAYS unintended consequences) is that oil goes to ... mmmm... $60 a barrel.

Let history be your guide instead of fear and believing lies. Oil PLUMMETED after the last Iraq war, eventually hitting $12 a barrel.

[hosepipe]

"BTW - ever wonder how Bush got into Yale/Harvard?"

Rich parents...no doubt. I like rich people, Wanta be one someday.

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"I've been thinking a lot about all I have to be thankful for, and the many wonderful things our government does. There are so many things to acknowledge." - http://www.zolatimes.com/V3.49/ruler_letter.html

[Tuco-bad]

Uh, $200,000 is middle class, Tuc??

Maybe that is "upper" middle class?

Above $200k I would consider "upper" middle class.

[wimpycat]

What you consider as middle class is all relative to your experience. You've obviously been around a lot of people in the $200K/year range. Aside from our corporate execs, I don't believe I personally know anyone in that income range. From where you're sitting someone like me would be a peasant, but in reality, I'm middle class--a mortgage, two non-luxury-but-not-crap car payments, decent health insurance and well able to afford this computer and internet service. I'm solid middle class, but my household is well below the $100K mark much less $200K.

The fact is that in the U.S., the median income (meaning just as many are above that level as are below it) varies by state, but you can see HERE that it is well below $100K for a four person household.

Median is the middle, and the middle is nowhere near $200K.

[billhilly]

We know this...but do Joe & Suzy Sixpack?

Easy, easy. It is now Suzy Chardoney. Wven we po folks drink wine now.

[T. Jefferson]

BTW - ever wonder how Bush got into Yale/Harvard?,

I often wondered how Gore flunked out of law school and divinity school yet went on the invent the internet.

[Tuco-bad]

Median is the middle, and the middle is nowhere near $200K.

There is no one definition of middle income, in fact some economists do not relate the term to income alone.

I was just using the $30,000 - $200,000 income range that I consider middle income, that I feel deserve a significant tax cut.

[MattMa]

Trying to bait you into what? I am currently reading Basic Economics by Thomas Sowell. I was asking an honest question on what you were basing your statement on.