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Are Mohammed/Malvo Snipers Gay For Each Other?
Multiple | MB26

Posted on 10/24/2002 2:35:46 PM PDT by MindBender26

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To: GovernmentShrinker
Which part of my explanation didn't you grasp? When someone's fear or loathing of a certain thing or certain type of person causes them to behave irrationally and in a way which is ultimately harmful to themselves, it is called a phobia. There are many kinds of phobias, and homophobia is one of them. Also arachnophobia, agorophobia, claustrophobia, and my personal favorite, hoplophobia -- you know, the folks who run screaming out the room making complete fools of themselves at the sight of gun, because despite a complete lack of evidence, they believe guns are apt to go off unexpectedly, and who refuse to have a gun in their home or carry a gun, no matter how dangerous a neighborhood they live or work in, because they believe, again despite a complete lack of evidence, that it can only be used successfully against themselves and not against an assailant. There are people who behave equally irrationally and self-destructively around gay people; they suffer from homophobia. They are not to be confused with people who simply don't like to be around gay people, or with people whose religious beliefs lead them to view homosexuality as immoral; or with people who believe that the social order conferred by traditional order is of such paramount importance that homosexual relationships must be condemned -- these groups are not apt to impulsively respond to the realization that someone standing next to them is gay, by slugging the person, and getting themselves locked up in prison for assault and battery, where they will likely involuntarily experience that thing which terrifies them the most. Get the difference now?

Would they then be cured?

121 posted on 10/24/2002 5:58:14 PM PDT by Old Professer
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To: MindBender26
Are Mohammed/Malvo Snipers Gay For Each Other?

Who knows, but it wouldn't surprise me in the least. ...And it also wouldn't surprise me that if true, the media will brush this under the carpet so fast it'll make your head spin .....just like they did with the Rat Boy Lindh/Homo Dad story.

122 posted on 10/24/2002 6:04:41 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: dubyaismypresident
By that method, "homophobe" would be one who fears mankind

"homo" can be either "mankind" or "same" If it is taken to be "same" then it refers to "same sex" in the word "homophobe" and is inappropriately applied for political reasons. Very few people fear homosexuals ("same" sex affinity). Those that do or who have an uncontrollable violent reaction to the presence of a homosexual are "homophobic".

123 posted on 10/24/2002 6:20:55 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: MindBender26
Do you mean they're fairy good friends?Butt buddies?Taking each other up the old dirt road?
124 posted on 10/24/2002 6:27:03 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: Rye
just like they did with the Rat Boy Lindh/Homo Dad story.

at least the facts/story went national/international

125 posted on 10/24/2002 6:28:43 PM PDT by 1234
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To: Uncle Meat
Basically, fruitcakes.
126 posted on 10/24/2002 6:29:06 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: 1234
True
127 posted on 10/24/2002 6:30:00 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: MindBender26
Who cares ????? hang them slowly and get it over with they can go and collect their 72 fairys and be done with it !
128 posted on 10/24/2002 6:30:19 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Rye
Weinie Washers?D**k Smokers?Butt Pirates?
129 posted on 10/24/2002 6:31:30 PM PDT by Uncle Meat
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To: nofriendofbills
The answer I heard on the local ABC radio affiliate news is NO, they're no blood relation or by marriage either. So the fact that one is calling the other "stepson" is a little ........ interesting, shall we say?!
130 posted on 10/24/2002 6:35:25 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: arthurus
It's not proper to mix Greek and Latin roots in a single English word. (That's not to say it doesn't happen - "bigamy" and "bicycle" are two common examples.) "Homophobe" means "fear of same" not "fear of humans". The ignorant people who coined this fake term probably shortened it from the awkward "homosexualphobe" which just doesn't have the same ring if you know what I mean . . . :-o

Homo in Latin means "man" in the general sense (mankind) . . . "vir" is for man in the sense of a male human being. In Greek the same distinction is made between "anthropos" (human being) and "anir" (male human being).

OK, etymology lesson over. (See, my minor in Classics wasn't wasted after all!)

131 posted on 10/24/2002 6:36:04 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother
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To: lady lawyer
Mo and Malvo, Mohammed and Malvolio, a wicked Batman and his depraved ward, Robin, out from their vast subterranean cave in their Batmobile. Lot of democrats will be digging deep into their guilt bags to come up with excuses for these guys, blame for the victims, and all the usual liberal guano.
132 posted on 10/24/2002 6:36:34 PM PDT by mathurine
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To: GovernmentShrinker
ExQUEEZE me, but the purple teletubby had been adopted as a gay mascot long before J. Falwell got in the game.

And I suspect one reason is that the man portraying the purse toting tubby actually WAS gay...but even if not, the purse and purple triangle on his head seemed to be enough for the gay subculture to latch on to him for a while.

133 posted on 10/24/2002 6:38:42 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: GovernmentShrinker
I need to clarify - the man who originally wore the purple tubby suit WAS gay... there is no issue about that. He was eventually fired and replaced.

Whether gay guys could spot him is the only question.
134 posted on 10/24/2002 6:40:37 PM PDT by SarahW
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To: bvw
GO to fires? I like to SET them! Can't you tell? :)
135 posted on 10/24/2002 6:43:32 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Old Professer
I'm not exaggerating. And you spell your name funny.
136 posted on 10/24/2002 6:46:20 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Common Tator
Remember? The Muslims apparently believe that young boys are "fair game" and do not consider sexual relationships with young men to be "gay" (or unacceptable).

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Sex as Power; Denial as Safety

Sexual relations in Middle Eastern societies have historically articulated social hierarchies, that is, dominant and subordinate social positions: adult men on top; women, boys and slaves below. The distinction made by modern Western "sexuality" between sexual and gender identity, that is, between kinds of sexual predilections [and] degrees of masculinity and femininity, has, until recently, had little resonance in the Middle East. Both dominant/subordinate and heterosexual/homosexual categorizations are structures of power. They position people as powerful or powerless, "normal" or "deviant." The contemporary concept of "queerness" resists all such categorizing in favor of recognizing more complex realities of multiple and shifting positions of sexuality, identity and power.

In early 1993, news of President Clinton's proposal to end the US military's ban on service by homosexuals prompted a young Egyptian man in Cairo, eager to practice his English, to ask me why the president wanted "to ruin the American army" by admitting "those who are not men or women." When asked if "those" would include a married man who also liked to have sex with adolescent boys, he unhesitatingly answered "no." For this Egyptian, a Western "homosexual" was not readily comprehensible as a man or a woman, while a man who had sex with both women and boys was simply doing what men do. It is not the existence of same-sex sexual relations that is new but their association with essentialist sexual identities rather than hierarchies of age, class or status.

A recent study of family and urban politics in Cairo suggests that social taboos and silences relating to sexual behavior provide a space of negotiability.1 They accommodate discreet incidents of otherwise publicly condemned illicit sexual behavior--adultery, homosexuality, premarital sex--provided that paramount values of family maintenance and reproduction and supporting social networks are not threatened. Such silences, however, leave normative constructions of licit and illicit sexual behavior unchallenged, sustain patriarchal family values, and legitimize patterns of sexual violence such as honor crimes, female circumcision and gay bashing.2

Also in 1993, an Egyptian physician affiliated with Cairo's Qasr al-'Aini Hospital informed me that AIDS and venereal diseases were not problems in Egypt because neither prostitution nor homosexuality exist in an Islamic country. While this statement may express conventions deemed appropriate for conversations with foreigners, it is profoundly ahistorical. Over the centuries, Islamic societies have accorded prostitution much the same levels of intermittent toleration, regulation and repression as their Christian counterparts and, until recently, have been more tolerant of same-sex sexual practices.3

Denying the existence of transgressive sexual practices helps obscure the ideological nature of "transgression," making it difficult, for example, to see prostitutes as workers who support themselves or their families by performing services for which there is a social demand. Such denials also legitimize failures to respond effectively to public health concerns such as AIDS.4

137 posted on 10/24/2002 6:49:58 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: SarahW
the purple teletubby had been adopted as a gay mascot long before J. Falwell got in the game

Not by the pre-schoolers who are the show's intended audience, and who Falwell's newsletter claimed were being corrupted by it. They're STUFFED ANIMALS for crying out loud! None of them ever had their gender indicated by the show, much less their sexual orientation. If any little kid ever got the idea that one of these stuffed animals was homosexual, they could only have gotten it from a nutty parent who'd been reading Falwell's newsletter -- not from the show.

138 posted on 10/24/2002 6:51:55 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
I heard that the connection was that the older guy had dated the boy's mother.
139 posted on 10/24/2002 6:53:52 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: VaBthang4
Fred Phelps.
140 posted on 10/24/2002 6:55:26 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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