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Democrats in Distress - and their Suicide Queen (vanity, about Pelosi and the Democrats in general)
My Pointed Head | 11/08/02 | xm177e2

Posted on 11/08/2002 3:22:38 PM PST by xm177e2

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I tried to be as fair to the Democrats as I could, I want this to be something a Democrat could read without getting angry at the author (not because I'm vain or weak, but because the message is stronger that way).

I wrote the above before I saw Harold Ford was still running. You can watch his speech here (look for "New Conference on Democratic Leadership with Rep. Harold Ford (D-TN)"), I haven't yet. If you want the Democratic Party to choose sane leadership, you must support this guy.

Personally, I would rather watch the Democratic Party shoot itself in foot head. I hope Ford loses, he probably will (they talk a good affirmative action game, but old white Democrats still have seniority, they win every time).

No matter how it turns out, it's going to be fun to watch. It's a real shame DU closed off its forums, but if I were a slimeball like David Lytel I wouldn't want people to see what Democrats really think right now. And if were running DU, I wouldn't want people to see the massive amount of banning that's probably going on right now.

P.S.: Fellow FReeper Jayef came up with the nickname "Suicide Queen."

1 posted on 11/08/2002 3:22:38 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: xm177e2
The President successfully won, I believe, by standing for a strong America. There are people who feel differently within our party

That says it all. After 9/11, the "you are either with us, or with the terrorists" statement is still ringing in Americans ears.

If those who "feel differently" about standing for a strong America, make that case as a campaign tactic, the Republicans better get used to being in the majority.

Even cracker voters have common sense...

2 posted on 11/08/2002 3:36:40 PM PST by NorCoGOP
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To: xm177e2
I like your analyses. I wonder if the Congressional RATS are really so insane that they will give the nod to Pelosi. I would really like to see her at the helm, since the bastards deserve to self-destruct in a major way. Pelosi comes from the San Francisco Congressional district.

This is the city which, in the recent gubernatorial election, went 66% for Red Davis, about 20% for the Green candidate (a notorious straight-line communist of the old school) and the Repubo, Bill Simon only got 16%.

These morons are so drug-addled that they are completely out of touch with national political reality. They still think its 1968. If the Progressive Caucus puts Pelosi in the driver's seat, they might as well start brewing up the Kool-Aid.

3 posted on 11/08/2002 3:42:06 PM PST by 45Auto
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To: xm177e2
I encourage the "rats" to continue on the present course. If they actually chose "Pelousy" to be the next minority leader, it further guarantees that repubs will gain on the national scene. Of course, someone must wake up Trent Lott and give Tom Deay some common sense. You can't be an attack dog forever, you should show some leadership sometime.
4 posted on 11/08/2002 3:42:53 PM PST by brooklin
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To: NorCoGOP
Just saw Gephardt on fox. It suddenly became clear what their "new strategy" is, going after the female vote. He mentioned the glass ceiling, and how with her taking the big spot, it will show how the party is insightful etc.

They always tell us what they're thinking if we pay attention, let's cut 'em off at the pass.
5 posted on 11/08/2002 3:47:19 PM PST by Thisiswhoweare
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It appears the dems master (Klintoon) is drinking his own Kool-aid, he's in total denial and has an unbreakable grip on them. I'm beginning to believe Klintoon just wants to use the DNC raise money and cut backroom business deals for himself. This is great!
6 posted on 11/08/2002 3:52:02 PM PST by Brett66
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To: Thisiswhoweare
The female vote? With Pelosi? How many women are energized by the idea of a shrill, strident left-wing aborto-feminist claiming to speak for them? Answer: NONE, that don't already vote left every election! Maybe Pelosi would take a few votes away from the Greens, but she would lose far more female votes than she would gain for the party.

Is women's empowerment a big issue for blacks? Is it a big issue for labor? No.

It looks like the Democratic Party is going for the college student vote <snicker>. It looks like they're pandering to their academic and ideological center. That is really pathetic, are they that desperate?

(the whole thing about being civil towards Democrats only applies to the vanity post, not my subsequent comments)

7 posted on 11/08/2002 3:57:59 PM PST by xm177e2
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Thanks for your analysis. The only thing that the dems. could do that is absolutely worse than electing pelosi, is to desperately put hillary on the presidential ticket. They are so blind with rage they cannot see the right way out of the mess they have made for themselves. Because they can NEVER admit they were ..wr..wr..wrong... they will continue the destruction. It's really a sight to behold. I wish I could feel some sort of sympathy for them, but they chose to lay down with the clintons.
8 posted on 11/08/2002 4:01:06 PM PST by small voice in the wilderness
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To: Brett66

9 posted on 11/08/2002 4:01:34 PM PST by 45Auto
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Aw, 'rats! I seems I need to start yet another opposition research file.
(To be used only after she is safely seated)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/785412/posts
Pelosi' 9/11 Paranoia
NewsMax.com ^ | June 2, 2002 | Carl Limbacher
This was posted in June but I thought it would be good to remind people of just how nasty Pelosi is. The original thread can be found here.
 
 

The Socialists In Congress
The Socialists In Congress Executive Commitee, Staff
Coordinator. Peter DeFazio, D-OR Ron Dellums ...
www.rfcnet.org/archives/socialists.htm - 7k - Cached - Similar pages

. The next minority leader of the Democratic Party claims to "understand America" but she supports every far left philosophy known...

click here

for more on what is sure to be a "Nasty Nancy" for conservatives...


10 posted on 11/08/2002 4:01:51 PM PST by backhoe
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To: Brett66
I suppose that if all we know about Bill and Hill is true, Pelosi will die in another air crash and pretty soon - If she is elected Hillary can kiss her presidential hopes good bye (and may be even hopes for re-election).
11 posted on 11/08/2002 4:02:44 PM PST by alex
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To: xm177e2
Excellent analysis!

I agree with your observations of 50/50 only being applicable when both parties are vying for the center.

The Democrats are about to make the same mistake the GOP did after they took so many seats in '94. They'll pay for it just as the GOP did.
12 posted on 11/08/2002 4:03:49 PM PST by randita
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Can't wait for Pelosi to start her shrieking, whining, blaming, psycho babbling and silly woman talk. I want a ring-side seat. LOL!!!!!!!!
13 posted on 11/08/2002 4:05:29 PM PST by Saundra Duffy
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If Pelosi becomes minority leader , I would assume that there are a lot of Democrats who will be ideologically closer to Bush or Hassert than to her. Time to put out the welcome mat.
14 posted on 11/08/2002 4:06:53 PM PST by fhayek
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To: small voice in the wilderness
The only thing that the dems. could do that is absolutely worse than electing pelosi, is to desperately put hillary on the presidential ticket.

LOL

They are so blind with rage they cannot see the right way out of the mess they have made for themselves. Because they can NEVER admit they were ..wr..wr..wrong... they will continue the destruction.

I think Bush makes them crazy. They think he's so stupid, but he keeps outfoxing them. They think they're entitled to the Senate, and then it's swept out from under their feet. Fighting George Bush, a guy they can't take seriously, and then losing--that drives them up the wall. They are surrounded with toadies who hate Bush as much as they do, they live in their own little universe. They just don't get it.

Obviously, that doesn't apply to all of them. There are a huge number of conservative Dems and moderate (and even a few liberal) Dems who "get it," like Frost and Ford.

15 posted on 11/08/2002 4:09:22 PM PST by xm177e2
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To: fhayek
Hassert

damn gremlins. Hastert

16 posted on 11/08/2002 4:09:40 PM PST by fhayek
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I love the idea that the left party will have Pelosi as their face person. She's a first class socialist b***h and will do nothing but make them look bad.

Useful imbicile.

17 posted on 11/08/2002 4:14:00 PM PST by AAABEST
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To: NorCoGOP
Rep. Harold Young would be a great minority leader. He is young, bright, personable, likeable and would certainly help to bring the party together and would work very well with the majority and with the White House. Unfortunately, he is black. The democrats hate blacks. Scratch a senior dem senator and there is a klansman. Sure, the liberals say they are pro-black but look at what Hillie, the DNC, and, especially, McAuliffe did to poor Carl McCall in NY.

The dems nominated him, the first black to ever be nominated for governor in NY, and then abandoned him to twist in the wind. If they had given him half the money they wasted in Florida, he might have done very much better. So, while the dems talk a good game, they are not about to select a black for a position of leadership no metter how well he could do or what Harry Belafonte might say (if he would ever dare to say anything that might bother massah).

18 posted on 11/08/2002 4:24:26 PM PST by Tacis
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She's a member of the Democratic Socialists of America,

The Left, "like the poor" (because the left is the most responsible for poverty) will always be with us.

19 posted on 11/08/2002 4:28:37 PM PST by elbucko
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To: AAABEST
You know, if the Democrats DID manage to retake the House of Representatives, Pelosi would be third in the line of succession to the Presidency. You don't suppose militant socialists would then engineer a take-over, do you?
20 posted on 11/08/2002 4:40:31 PM PST by fhayek
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