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[Muslim] Speaker: All Muslims could take up arms if U.S. aggressor [Bring it, Mohammed]
Greely Tribune ^ | 11/14/02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 11/14/2002 7:56:05 AM PST by 1bigdictator

Speaker: All Muslims could take up arms if U.S. aggressor Story By Julio Ochoa Posted on Thursday, November 14 @ 02:50:26 EST (54 reads)

If the United States starts a war with Iraq as an aggressor, it may end up fighting a war with Muslims from many other countries, an Islamic speaker said Wednesday. Mohammed Jodah, a board member of the Interfaith Alliance of Colorado and an authority on Islam, spoke to a group of University of Northern Colorado students at the Monfort College of Business.

The students asked Jodah to lecture for their Life of the Mind class, which studies violence in all major religions.

Jodah told the class there are three circumstances in which believers of Islam can bear arms and fight: self-defense, to help another nation to remove an aggressor or if it is declared by the head of the state.

“If Iraq comes under American attack and Iraq makes a call for Muslim people, no governments of other countries will go, but Muslim people may go to help other Muslims,” Jodah said. “This is part of the faith and belief to go and help other Muslims if they come under aggression.”

During the Persian Gulf War, when Kuwait came under attack from Iraq, Muslims from Egypt, Syria, Jordan and Morocco went and fought on behalf of Kuwait because Iraq was an aggressor, he said.

“In the Islamic faith, the Muslim people are one nation, regardless of nationality,” Jodah said.

Jodah visited Iraq in January 2000 on an American diplomatic mission and saw Iraqi citizens living in misery.

“Here is a country that is under economic embargo for 11 or 12 years,” he said. “The people are suffering.”

For the United States to attack without knowing whether Iraq possesses weapons of mass destruction would be wrong, Jodah said.

“There would be no justification for war and it would make the suffering of Iraqi people even worse,” he said.

He would rather see the United States give the full time and confidence to weapons inspectors to do their work, without the looming threat of war.

The class’s professor, Thomas Simon, gave the class a challenge of how to best present Islam in a public setting.

“They had many ideas, but this is what they settled on and it seemed to work the best,” Simon said.

Jodah spent most of the lecture giving the students an understanding of Islam and devoted the end of the lecture to terrorism and questions from the crowd.

Students, such as Pierre Houssney, a 20-year-old junior, questioned the promotion of violence in Islamic religion.

“Muslims are only allowed to kill in self-defense, yet look how far the Islamic world reaches,” Houssney said. “How did it reach there? Historically the answer is by the sword.”

What’s next

University of Northern Colorado Professor Thomas Simon will give a speech titled “Terrorism, Fear and Morality” at 7 p.m. Wednesday at the college’s University Center, 10th Avenue and 20th Street, Greeley.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: america; muslims
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1 posted on 11/14/2002 7:56:05 AM PST by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
Warning to all Muslims:

DON'T THREATEN ME WITH A GOOD TIME.

2 posted on 11/14/2002 7:56:49 AM PST by 1bigdictator
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To: 1bigdictator
Islam is evil and a cult and must be banned!

3 posted on 11/14/2002 7:57:19 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: 1bigdictator
Bring it on. An all-out war with Islam would be the best possible outcome.

We'll be much better at fighting the war on terror with our gloves off.

4 posted on 11/14/2002 8:00:35 AM PST by wideawake
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To: 1bigdictator
“In the Islamic faith, the Muslim people are one nation, regardless of nationality,” Jodah said.

By his own reasoning, if we are attacked by Muslims, all Muslims are the enemy. I can live with that.

5 posted on 11/14/2002 8:00:40 AM PST by per loin
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To: 1bigdictator
"Let's get ready to rumble!" There must be an end to jihadist cancer.
6 posted on 11/14/2002 8:01:06 AM PST by sheik yerbouty
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To: All
Remeber history, Islam has not had a good record against the West. Ottomans were defeated by the British in WWI. The Israelis have at least four major victories against the Moooslims in fifty years. We defeated Islamic Iraq and Afghanistan within the last 12 years. Anybody else know of Western victories within the last 100 years over the Muslims.
7 posted on 11/14/2002 8:02:23 AM PST by Sparta
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To: 1bigdictator
LET'S ROLL!!!
8 posted on 11/14/2002 8:03:02 AM PST by bigfootbob
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To: sheik yerbouty
All Muslims could take up arms...

Sounds like a legitimate threat to me....
9 posted on 11/14/2002 8:03:52 AM PST by ricer1
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To: 1bigdictator
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10 posted on 11/14/2002 8:06:14 AM PST by Stand Watch Listen
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To: 1bigdictator
Another Seditious Muslim For Peace
11 posted on 11/14/2002 8:06:44 AM PST by joesnuffy
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To: 1bigdictator
To the muslims: Is that your Final answer ?

We have a final solution for it if you realy want to push it.

12 posted on 11/14/2002 8:07:47 AM PST by Centurion2000
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To: 1bigdictator
To the victor go the spOILs....Lets get it on!
13 posted on 11/14/2002 8:07:58 AM PST by HEY4QDEMS
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To: Stand Watch Listen
To review recent events, last year, 19 Muslims slaughtered thousands of Americans on U.S. soil. Since then, one Muslim tried to blow up a U.S. commercial jet with a shoe bomb and another Muslim shot up Los Angeles airport. The Religion of Peace has also been active abroad, decapitating an American journalist and blowing up a French tanker. In the last few weeks alone, Muslims bombed a nightclub in Bali and were narrowly prevented from slaughtering hundreds of theater-goers in Moscow.

Inasmuch as the nation is at war with Islamic terrorists, you might think it would be of passing interest that the sniper is a Muslim. But you need a New York Times decoder ring to figure out that GULF WAR VETERAN John Muhammad is a Muslim. The main clue is the Times' repeated insistence that Islam had absolutely nothing to do with the shootings.

Ann Coulter
14 posted on 11/14/2002 8:08:18 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: sheik yerbouty
Not if Bush calls it a religion of peace, and the PC crowds are tieing our hands.
15 posted on 11/14/2002 8:09:12 AM PST by philosofy123
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To: 1bigdictator
Time to play a little game of Cowboys and Muslims!
16 posted on 11/14/2002 8:10:41 AM PST by Destructor
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To: 1bigdictator
If the United States starts a war with Iraq as an aggressor, it may end up fighting a war with Muslims from many other countries,***

Good. Start with the ones in Colorado and finish with any who are left.

17 posted on 11/14/2002 8:13:15 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: 1bigdictator
The students asked Jodah to lecture for their Life of the Mind class, which studies violence in all major religions.

Words fail me.

18 posted on 11/14/2002 8:15:40 AM PST by steve-b
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To: 1bigdictator
Is this guy begging for free room and board at Gitmo Island or what?
19 posted on 11/14/2002 8:18:09 AM PST by ewing
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To: 1bigdictator
Isn't it funny how these Muslims are always threatening to take up arms, but in practice the only time they do is when their targets haven't?

It must be a real burden to know that your culture is the highpoint of humanity in craven cowardice and naked avarice.
20 posted on 11/14/2002 8:21:10 AM PST by Woahhs
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