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Horrors of stoning captured on film
Washington Times ^ | 12-09-02 | Arnold Beichman

Posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:56 AM PST by SJackson

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:59:34 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

In my snug little apartment on the Stanford University campus I have just watched on my TV screen 15 minutes of pure horror: the lashing and stoning ordered by Iranian judges of two Iranian men for committing so-called crimes.

The 15-minute film I viewed is an old one, shot outdoors in broad, sunny daylight in 1991 and very amateurish. But all is clear, much too clear for queasy stomachs. It was smuggled out only recently by agents of the National Council of Resistance of Iran.


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1 posted on 12/10/2002 5:14:56 AM PST by SJackson
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To: SJackson
This is exactly what must be done to pedophiles in America. And done often.
2 posted on 12/10/2002 5:28:52 AM PST by Buffalo Bob
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To: SJackson
re:
"...in a minute or so the head sags forward and there is no more movement...."

That's about as long as any execution takes in the United States. Who can
determine what pain a live being feels, just prior to death?

There are many in our Nation, that will go to any length to end our
policy of capital punishment; the rallying to denounce other country's
forms of capital punishment is part of that rally.

I would be very wary of the hyperbole.

 

3 posted on 12/10/2002 5:29:39 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: All
Bring back PUBLIC HANGINGS !!!!
4 posted on 12/10/2002 5:34:32 AM PST by tennessee469
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To: Buffalo Bob
"This is exactly what must be done to pedophiles in America. And done often. "

Yeah those Muslims they sure know how to run a country the right way. We could learn a lot from them.

5 posted on 12/10/2002 5:34:47 AM PST by Kerberos
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To: Deep_6
And the rest of the world hates us for driving SUVs and our fast food? Note to world: PERSPECTIVE!!!!
6 posted on 12/10/2002 5:35:07 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: SJackson
More fun times from the Religion Of Peace (tm).

Both civilized and barbarous peoples execute, of course. Civilized peoples execute to protect others from the depravity of the executed one. Barbarous peoples execute to inflict the maximum of pain and humiliation on the executed one. Just one more marker by which the clueless can confuse us, and the intelligent can tell us apart.

Oh, one more thing: a people that does not execute cannot coherently answer the question "What is an innocent life worth?" This is made manifest by its unwillingness to protect innocent lives from those who have demonstrated a willingness to destroy them.

Freedom, Wealth, and Peace,
Francis W. Porretto
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7 posted on 12/10/2002 5:36:50 AM PST by fporretto
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To: SJackson
Wrestling with Islam
8 posted on 12/10/2002 5:36:51 AM PST by The Raven
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To: tennessee469
I like it...when can we start the stonings here in America?

I'd also like to bring back the large hollow brass bulls where you could place the criminal and then build a fire under it. The screaming of the criminal inside then appear to make the bull come alive...we could use that for pedophiles and rapists too...I got the matches.
9 posted on 12/10/2002 5:37:08 AM PST by freeper12
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To: Buffalo Bob
I am in favor of capital punishment; however, I prefer lethal injection, electrocution and possibly the firing squad.

I know we all like to sit and talk about the "just" punishment for pedophiles and terrorists and other scum, but in reality, stoning and other ancient and medieval methods of execution are the methods of ancient and medieval people. It takes a brutal and bloodthirsty person to throw rocks at someone wrapped in a sheet and buried up to the waist; it takes a brutal and bloodthirsty person to cheer a public beheading--unless you're one of the actual victims, in which case you'd be filled with vengeance.

But as for stoning for pedophiles here in the U.S.? We can all talk and kid around about it because it will never happen, but if it ever did, I wouldn't want any part of it. Maybe I could flip the switch or pull the trigger, but I wouldn't be part of an angry, rock-throwing mob. Either way you're killing someone, but stoning and other "hands on" execution methods have a more brutalizing effect on the executioners.
12 posted on 12/10/2002 5:49:18 AM PST by wimpycat
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To: fporretto
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"..Civilized peoples execute to protect others from the depravity...."

Nonsense. It serves as an "example" of what punishment will
suit the crime you may be about to commit. It is a preventative
tool and used to help protect against crime.

Without severest of punishment, what reason does one have
to not commit the heinous act of killing an innocent being?

If we were to simply "protect" our society, we could imprison
indefinitely. And be compelled to do so in "the most humane
manner".

Hardly a compelling reason to not kill an innocent human
while committing a common crime.

 

14 posted on 12/10/2002 5:56:03 AM PST by Deep_6
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To: Buffalo Bob
This is exactly what must be done to pedophiles in America. And done often.

Yep, except I think that they should be upside down and the part stoned should be the offending member.

17 posted on 12/10/2002 6:06:09 AM PST by Slyfox
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To: American For Life
Urinating in public: What would be the punishment?
18 posted on 12/10/2002 6:06:29 AM PST by Bluntpoint
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To: American For Life
I used to work for a guy back in the 80's who had worked for a time in Saudi Arabia. He says he witnessed a beheading. I also read a book that detailed how they are done. Apparently, the condemned criminal has several pints of blood drawn from his or her body, to make them bleed less. As if being bled half dry isn't enough to make one woozy and disoriented, the condemned is also drugged, so they're pretty much stumbling around and don't have the energy to say anything to the crowd. This is supposed to make it more "humane". Actually, if a beheading is done right, it's probably one of the quickest and therefore more merciful methods for the condemned, but that doesn't make it any less brutal or messy to witness.
19 posted on 12/10/2002 6:06:33 AM PST by wimpycat
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