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I support Trent Lott, and so should you darnit!
Me ^ | 12.13.02 | Registered

Posted on 12/13/2002 8:24:44 AM PST by Registered

I just sent Chester an email:

"Dear Senator Lott,

If you had a chin, I'd tell you to keep it up. In the mean time, don't do anything rash. Weather this storm!

Thanks for all you have done for us in the past Chester.

Rich"


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To: DWPittelli
If Lott's in power in 2004, America will be enthralled in some other scandal.
101 posted on 12/13/2002 12:16:33 PM PST by carton253
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To: Callahan
The man is either a racist or a moron.

He's both. The two traits are inseparable.

102 posted on 12/13/2002 12:18:09 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: CyberCowboy777
You are the one using the time-honored technique of distorting my intentions to deflect a earnest concern that may force you out of the group think.

Tell you what - stop putting words in my mouth and I'll change my opinion of what you are doing here. Until then, you have all the subtlety of Bill Clinton at a beauty pagent.

103 posted on 12/13/2002 12:18:39 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I do not like Lott as the ML, he is weak and a fool that falls for Dem ploys.

I just do not want us allowing the public to think we allowed a Racist to ascend our leadership.

That is what the "laymen" I have talked with think. They think that republicans that are calling for Lott's resignation are covering their tracks. If we did not think he was a racist we would defend him and if we thought he was a racist we would call for his complete resignation.

We must defend the Truth even for people we do not like.

This will cost us. This is not the way you clean house.
104 posted on 12/13/2002 12:21:07 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: dirtboy
I may be wrong but I say he is either a racist or not and that is the issue to deal with now.

His leadership abilities are not what is playing among the "other" 50% of the population.
105 posted on 12/13/2002 12:23:48 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
I may be wrong but I say he is either a racist or not and that is the issue to deal with now.

I am not saying that. I am saying that only he knows if he is a racist - but his statements have given the Dems a considerable opportunity to inflict damage upon the GOP - not a trait you want from your leader, to hand your foes a club so they can whale you with it.

His leadership abilities are not what is playing among the "other" 50% of the population.

I don't care. I am worried about what he has done to this party, both now and many, many times in the past. His comments were nebulous enough to give him the benefit of a doubt that he is a racist. But they were more than stupid enough to aptly demonstrate that he does not possess the judgement to be Majority Leader.

106 posted on 12/13/2002 12:32:58 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: CyberCowboy777
Those that called for Condit's congressional resignation and not for Lott's are hypocrites.

Oh, yeah, and one more comment regarding this point - even if I did believe beyond a doubt that Lott is a racist, racism, the last I checked, was not a crime. Lying to police and hindering an investigation is, and is a far more serious offense. So the two are in NO way equivalent, as much as you try to equate them here.

107 posted on 12/13/2002 12:35:44 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: CyberCowboy777
We must defend the Truth even for people we do not like.

And how do we get to the truth here? I think you would agree that Lott's statement was loaded - the question you in turn are asking, does it prove he is a racist? The problem is, we simply have no way of knowing. But the fact that he uttered such a loaded statement is enough to demonstrate his poor judgement.

108 posted on 12/13/2002 12:40:09 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
True and that is a valid point.

However, I see poor judgment and racisms as two different problems that require two different solutions.

I could be wrong, maybe this will work for the best. I just do not see it playing out well here locally.
109 posted on 12/13/2002 12:49:47 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: dirtboy
We do not know that Condit did those things. If he had would he not have been arrested?

We only believe he did and that was enough.
110 posted on 12/13/2002 12:51:20 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
However, I see poor judgment and racisms as two different problems that require two different solutions.

Well, that is why I think he should step down as majority leader - whether or not he is a racist, and we agree there is no way to really know unless he tells us himself, we can only really judge him on his judgement. And he has shown the judgement of a turnip, hence my solution, have him step down as majority leader so his poor judgement won't damage the party further.

111 posted on 12/13/2002 12:55:22 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
The problem is, we simply have no way of knowing. But the fact that he uttered such a loaded statement is enough to demonstrate his poor judgement.

We have a record of tenty years in Congress. We have eye witness testimony from the men and women who have worked with him all those years.

And since this fiasco started I have seen not one documented fact establishing Lott as a racist. Not one.

I hope Lott stands tall today and I hope he remains majority leader for a while.

112 posted on 12/13/2002 12:56:36 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dirtboy
In hte time he has been in Congress.
113 posted on 12/13/2002 12:58:29 PM PST by jwalsh07
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To: dirtboy
And how do we get to the truth here? I think you would agree that Lott's statement was loaded - the question you in turn are asking, does it prove he is a racist? The problem is, we simply have no way of knowing.

Yes you do:

http://www.ferris.edu/isar/Institut/CCC/crouch07.htm

114 posted on 12/13/2002 1:03:50 PM PST by eaglebeak
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To: dirtboy
Granted, you may be right on this.

The GOP has never been good at separating issues and dealing with it's own and I fear the repercussions.
115 posted on 12/13/2002 1:13:50 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: CyberCowboy777
Granted, you may be right on this.

Likewise, you would be correct railing against someone who has decided that Lott is a racist, should resign as MJ on moral grounds, but should stay in the Senate to preserve the GOP majority. But I think most of Lott's conservative critics see this as the latest, most telling display of his terrible judgement.

The GOP has never been good at separating issues and dealing with it's own and I fear the repercussions.

Well, as P.J. O'Rourke once said, the Republican Party campaigns on the notion that government doesn't work - and then gets elected and proves just that. So I think this muddling is inherent to the party, and just something we'll always have to deal with. The Dems may excel at marching in lockstep, but I really don't care to go there - I'll take some chaos any day of the week over their goosestepping...

116 posted on 12/13/2002 1:28:04 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: dirtboy
I'll take some chaos any day of the week over their goosestepping...

Likewise

But I think most of Lott's conservative critics see this as the latest, most telling display of his terrible judgement.

I can accept this, though I wish we could have dealt with the leadership issue outside the "Big Top". I guess we deal with the hand dealt us.

117 posted on 12/13/2002 1:50:44 PM PST by CyberCowboy777
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To: Registered
so let's keep a wimpy fence sitter....who wants to have convictions???? i know i don't...sheesh....
118 posted on 12/13/2002 2:06:43 PM PST by chasio649
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To: bert
What garbage! You don't win by giving up.

I don't see why the Republicans' replacing a weak, ineffective and demonstrably stupid Senate leader like Lott with another Republican (half of them would be an improvement) amounts to "giving up." It would mean that Lott was "giving up" his leadership position, but not that the Republicans were giving anything up.

119 posted on 12/13/2002 2:07:28 PM PST by DWPittelli
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To: jwalsh07
Again:

From Associated Press (EXCERPT):

"Senate Republican leader Trent Lott tried to help Bob Jones University keep its federal tax-exempt status despite the school's policy prohibiting interracial dating two decades before his recent comments stirred a race controversy.

"Racial discrimination does not always violate public policy," Lott, then a congressman from Mississippi, wrote in a 1981 friend of the court brief that unsuccessfully urged the U.S. Supreme Court to stop the Internal Revenue Service from stripping the university's tax exemption.

120 posted on 12/13/2002 2:22:21 PM PST by SerpentDove
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