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Stock Market Crashes Are Predictable; Major Decline Is Coming in 2003 and 2004, Says UCLA Physicist
UCLA ^ | 14 Dec 2002 | Stuart Wolpert

Posted on 12/17/2002 1:33:15 PM PST by sourcery

Successfully predicting stock market swings is as futile as searching for the fountain of youth, some people believe. UCLA physicist and complex-systems theorist Didier Sornette is not among them. Sornette, author of a new book, "Why Stock Markets Crash: Critical Events in Complex Financial Systems" (Princeton University Press), has found patterns that occur in market crashes dating back for centuries. Their statistical signatures are evident long in advance, he concludes.

Sornette has developed algorithms — based on sophisticated mathematics, statistical modeling techniques and collective behavior theory — that enable him to analyze more than two dozen stock markets worldwide. Applying techniques of physics to economic data, he has developed a quantitative model that can predict the signatures of a coming stock market crash.

"Economic forecasting is often not effective at predicting changes of direction, but our algorithms are very good at doing so," said Sornette, a professor of earth and space sciences, and a member of UCLA's Institute of Geophysics and Planetary Physics, who is also a research director at the University of Nice's National Center for Scientific Research in his native France.

Sornette cautions that his model allows him to make broad predictions, but is not able to predict where the stock market will be on any particular day or week. He disagrees with Alan Greenspan's Aug. 30, 2002, remark that it is "very difficult to definitively identify a bubble until after the fact," but Sornette is unable to predict whether the result of a particular bubble will be a rapid crash or a prolonged bear market.

Sornette and Wei-Xing Zhou, a postdoctoral scholar in his UCLA laboratory, present bad news for those who hope the bear market is over, in an article in the December issue of Quantitative Finance, a bimonthly journal focusing on the intersection of physics and economics.

"The U.S. stock market is not yet on the verge of recovery," Sornette said. "The bear market that started in July-August 2000 still has a long way to go."

Sornette and Zhou predict the Standard & Poor's 500 (currently above 900) will begin dropping by the second quarter of 2003 and will fall to approximately 700 in the first half of 2004.

The U.S. stock market since 1996 has shown a "remarkable similarity" with Japan's Nikkei index from 1985 to 1992, which may reflect deeper similarities between the fundamentals of the two economies, Sornette and Zhou argue. The S&P 500 has not yet entered a "second phase" of decline, as the Nikkei index did some two-and-a half years into its steep decline.

"Our theory is tailored to identify anomalies, bubbles and their end," Sornette said.

How accurate are Sornette's predictions?

His previous predictions have often been quite accurate, especially his January 1999 prediction (co-authored with Anders Johansen, his former UCLA post-doctoral scholar) that Japan's Nikkei index would rise 50 percent by the end of that year, at a time when other economic forecasters expected the Nikkei to continue to fall, and when Japan's economic indicators were declining. The Nikkei rose more than 49 percent during that time. He also successfully predicted several short-term changes of trends in the Nikkei.

"We have strong supporters, and others who say this is impossible," Sornette said. "Scientists typically do not predict the future, but I'm optimistic. Complex-systems theory is a young science, and the predictions will undoubtedly improve over the next five years. We are not able to predict stock markets with anything close to 100 percent accuracy, but I have confidence in the predictions, and confidence that they will become more accurate as we refine our methods."

How do Sornette's own investments do?

"My research takes all my time; I do not spend even one percent of my time investing in the market," he answered. "However, I have invested with associates, who implemented this system, in particular in hedge-funds. We have done well, and are continuing to do so. This system alone, however, is not sufficient to profit in the stock market with active trading, especially not in the short term and must be complemented with other analyses."

In "Why Stock Markets Crash," based on 10 years of research, Sornette proposes his theory of how, why and when stock markets crash. He uses complex-systems theory to dissect market crashes, and a new set of computational methods capable of searching and comparing patterns.

While most attempts to explain market failures search for triggering mechanisms in the hours, days or weeks before the collapse, Sornette argues that the underlying cause can be found months and even years before — in the build-up of cooperative speculation. He provides a step-by-step analysis, using cutting-edge statistical modeling techniques, as well as insights from physics.

Sornette analyzes historical precedents, from the decade-long "tulip mania" in the Netherlands that began in 1585, a time of great prosperity, and wilted suddenly in 1637, to the South Sea Bubble that ended with the first huge market crash in England in 1720, to the bubbles and crashes that occurred every decade in the 19th century, to the Great Crash of October 1929 and Black Monday in October 1987. He analyzes herd behavior and the crowd effect, speculative bubbles, and precursory patterns before large crashes, as well as the major crashes that have occurred on the world's major stock markets.

Sornette concludes that most explanations other than "cooperative self-organization" fail to account for the subtle bubbles by which markets lay the foundation for catastrophe.

"Collective behavior theory predicts robust signatures of speculative phases of financial markets, both in accelerating bubbles, as well as decelerating 'antibubbles,'" Sornette said. "These precursory patterns have been documented for essentially all crashes on developed as well as emergent stock markets."

Sornette sees a series of stages, beginning with a market or sector that is successful, with strong fundamentals. Credit expands, and money flows more easily. (Near the peak of Japan's bubble in 1990, Japan's banks were lending money for real estate purchases at more than the value of the property, expecting the value to rise quickly.) As more money is available, prices rise. More investors are drawn in, and expectations for quick profits rise. The bubble expands, and then bursts. (From the early 1970s to 2000, Hong Kong's stock market accelerated and crashed eight times — a perfect illustration of his theory.)

"Stock market crashes are often unforeseen by most people, especially economists," Sornette added. "One reason why predicting complex systems is difficult is that we have to look at the forest rather than the trees, and almost nobody does that. Our approach tries to avoid that trap. From the tulip mania, where tulips worth tens of thousands of dollars in present U.S. dollars became worthless a few months later, to the U.S. bubble in 2000, the same patterns occur over the centuries. Today we have electronic commerce, but fear and greed remain the same. Humans are endowed with basically the same qualities today as they were in the 17th century."

Sornette, 45, also conducts research on earthquake prediction, which he says is much more difficult than stock market prediction, but which he believes will also be possible. A specialist in the scientific prediction of catastrophes in a wide range of complex systems, he has written or co-written more than 250 papers in scholarly journals.

Sornette's predictions are posted on his Web site: www.ess.ucla.edu/faculty/sornette/

Note: Sornette, Zhou and UCLA do not assume responsibility for investment decisions made by others.

-UCLA-

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1 posted on 12/17/2002 1:33:15 PM PST by sourcery
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To: sourcery
He should read Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig Von Mises and F Hayek before he predicts stock markets and earth quakes.
2 posted on 12/17/2002 1:36:01 PM PST by shrinkermd
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To: sourcery
Well, I guess a physicist should be able to predict economic trends at least as accurately as an economist.
3 posted on 12/17/2002 1:37:15 PM PST by Larry Lucido
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To: shrinkermd
http://www.mises.org/
4 posted on 12/17/2002 1:43:01 PM PST by society-by-contract
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To: sourcery
If he's so smart why ain't he rich?

Lets see him put some real money on the line to back his theory.......
5 posted on 12/17/2002 1:44:45 PM PST by Kozak
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To: sourcery
Already posted here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/807995/posts
6 posted on 12/17/2002 1:51:18 PM PST by rohry
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To: Kozak
"Economic forecasting is often not effective at predicting changes of direction, but our algorithms are very good at doing so,"

That's exactly what a Merrill Lynch guy told me once--of course I lost a bundle.
7 posted on 12/17/2002 2:01:41 PM PST by richardtavor
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To: sourcery
Isn't he about 2 years LATE???
8 posted on 12/17/2002 2:14:47 PM PST by E=MC<sup>2</sup>
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To: richardtavor
>>Sornette and Zhou predict the Standard & Poor's 500 (currently above 900) will begin dropping by the second quarter of 2003 and will fall to approximately 700 in the first half of 2004.

The s&p 500 fell from over 1500 down to about 770 earlier this year...about a 50% "crash" that I guess he didn't manage to predict...now he makes the bold prediction that the markets will "CRASH" from 900 down to 700, a 20% drop or so....hmmmmmm.
9 posted on 12/17/2002 2:19:29 PM PST by freeper12
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To: Larry Lucido
Well, I guess a physicist should be able to predict economic trends at least as accurately as an economist.

He should much better as he is not blinded by an ideology (of free market or socialism or else). Physicists deal with various, complex, often not related phenomenons. Earthquakes indeed might be harder to predict.

10 posted on 12/17/2002 2:22:40 PM PST by A. Pole
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To: A. Pole
All of these efforts rely on the false assumption that the future can be predicted by examining the past, and the erroneous belief that complicated mathmatical models can bring certainty to something that is inherently uncertain--the future economic decisions of millions of people. The study of future markets is behavioural science, not mathmatical science. So yes, a physicist can predict economic trends as accurately as an economist, which is to say, neither can.
11 posted on 12/17/2002 3:00:53 PM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry
yes...these idiots are so good at driving by looking in the rearview mirror.

This makes me certain a "crash" like these guys are talking about are much less likely.
12 posted on 12/17/2002 3:21:53 PM PST by Keith
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To: sourcery

The chart above is calculated with what is likely a similar algorithm to the one mentioned in the article. While the projections are not accurate enough for investment purposes, the results, in my opinion, are better than what could be achieved by chance. As my own results are encouraging, and there are persons much smarter than myself working on this problem, I agree that a revolution in stock price prediction is likely about to occur.

13 posted on 12/17/2002 4:11:42 PM PST by rgboomers
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To: shrinkermd
"He should read Henry Hazlitt, Ludwig Von Mises and F Hayek"

How do you know he hasn't?

14 posted on 12/18/2002 7:44:42 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: B.Bumbleberry
"All of these efforts rely on the false assumption that the future can be predicted by examining the past"

Actually, this particular effort is based on three true ideas: (1) in finance there is nothing new under the sun, (2) most investors are impulsive and arational, and (3) human nature has not changed in thousands of years.

"the erroneous belief that complicated mathmatical models can bring certainty to something that is inherently uncertain--the future economic decisions of millions of people"

False charge. He doesn't claim certainty. No honest person examining the problem ever would.

"The study of future markets is behavioural science, not mathmatical science."

Aren't many behaviors, including investing behavior, quantifiable?

15 posted on 12/18/2002 7:53:03 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: Kozak
"If he's so smart why ain't he rich?"

The self-comforting answer to which academics subscribe is the efficient market hypothesis.

Successful trading is not primarily about intelligence.

16 posted on 12/18/2002 7:56:56 AM PST by Tauzero
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To: Tauzero
I guess I don't see your point. The problem is with the idea that you can forecast economic results. How does the idea that people are irrational provide support. I thought that was part of the point I was making: that it is predictable that people will be unpredictable.
17 posted on 12/18/2002 12:14:32 PM PST by B.Bumbleberry
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To: B.Bumbleberry
Two things: 1) I didn't say they were irrational, but arational. 2) Neither adjective is synonymous with unpredictable.Humans are predictably arational, or rather exhibit their arationality in predictable ways.

Basically all Sornette has done is an exercise in pattern recognition. It's almost not really forecasting at all, since he doesn't predict when a pattern will emerge.

"The problem is with the idea that you can forecast economic results."

What is the problem? I'm willing to go out on a limb and say with confidence that manufacturing activity in this country will not grind to a complete halt tomorrow. I could be wrong though. We could be hit by an asteroid or something arriving from sunward.

It's not at all a question of whether you can forecast economic results, but rather how far into the future and with what confidence interval.

18 posted on 12/18/2002 2:01:58 PM PST by Tauzero
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To: rgboomers
When a system that works is found it is discounted and will no
longer work. Isn't that the way it works?
19 posted on 12/29/2002 1:35:50 AM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
" When a system that works is found it is discounted and will no onger work. Isn't that the way it works? "

Yes, this is pretty much how it works. This is due to the interactive nature of markets.

When the observer is also a participant, the interactive effects (unpredictable portion) becomes large. This is what happens in the stock market all the time.

So, why is what this scientist is doing possibly different? Well, it may not be! (I am reading his book, BTW). However, there is a chance that he is getting to the actual core reason of why a certain stock market behavior (CRASHES) occurs. More importantly, it may be possible to objectively calculate when they are more likely. Granted, the previously mentioned interactive effect makes the prediction fairly wide. For example, one could never say there will be a crash tomorrow. More likely would be something like a crash is due in the next year or two. Most people would continue to find this worthless information. So, in a certain sense, the hub-bub about all this only amounts to anything if you are one of us nerdy people who study this sort of thing.

My own reasoning is that stock crashes can't occur unless stock prices get too high based on companies' potential future profits. Is that what happened in 1929, 1987, and even more recently? Yep, it is.

Basically, it comes down to this. The research in question indicates the stock market might be slightly predictable where it has always been thought to be totally unpredictable. Except to people who like to split hairs, this does not amount to much, yet.

Sincerely,
R.G. Boomers

20 posted on 12/31/2002 4:55:46 AM PST by rgboomers
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