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La Cucuracha...pass the RAID!
The Sierra Times - The War Room ^ | Dec. 21, 2002 | Henrietta Bowman

Posted on 12/23/2002 11:55:16 AM PST by madfly

I created the Sierra Times War Room message board at the request of J.J. Johnson one day after 9-11. In that time, I have only made one post that was posted in both the War Room and the Sagebrush Saloon, preferring to keep the two message boards separate as much as possible.

So, when I make that exception to my own rule, you can bet it is for a darned good reason! Yesterday, I read an article listed here from the L.A. Times entitled "Halt to Ariz. Citizen Border Patrols Urged" and there was something in it that literally made me see red and, as usual, to start checking out the money trail.

The comment was this: "It's not their job to defend, to harass people, stalk people, injure people. That's nobody's job," said Jennifer Allen, co-director of the Tucson-based Border Action Network. "They (illegal immigrants) have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

Today, I read a second article from the Tucson Citizen. This is the quote that set me off a second time: "If you shine the light on the cockroaches, they don't like it," Rep.-elect Raúl Grijalva says at a press conference yesterday in calling for an investigation of citizen patrols, which he says are racist.

Grijalva said this at a press conference hosted by Coalicion de Derechos Humanos, a group that advocates for illegal immigrants. Both groups were referring to the civilian militia groups springing up on the border that are dedicated to doing what the Feds refuse to do -- defend our borders against illegal aliens and terrorists.

While Border Action Network gets a major portion of its funding from the Norman Foundation, dedicated in its own words to countering right-wingers, the common denominator for both BAN and Coalicion de Derechos Humanos is Resist, Inc. and a raunchier group of Democratic Socialists would be darned hard to find!

Noam Chomsky and Benjamin Spock were founders of Resist, Inc. Check out their leadership and history listed on their site linked below. Radical is not the name for these folks. From tinkerbelles to Che Gueverra and SDS, these folks show the raised red fist. Oh, and a third funder is the ubiquitous Ben and Jerry's.

Border Action Network is the new name, minus the commie logo, of  Southwest Alliance to Resist Militarization (aka SWARM), but I guess that was just a tad militaristic sounding for these folks. I have done my civic duty and included their email addy for those of you wishing to sound off.

PLEASE
feel free to repost this.

Rep.-elect Raúl Grijalva,
I have put the Klieg lights on the REAL cockroaches...somebody hand me a can of RAID!

--Henrietta
http://www.borderaction.org/home.html
Border Action Network
PO Box 384
Tucson, Arizona 85702
520-623-4944
ban@BorderAction.org


http://www.resistmilitarization.org/contact.htm

Southwest Alliance to Resist Militarization
842 S. Sixth Ave
Tucson, Arizona 85701
520-623-4944
swarm@resistmilitarization.org  

http://www.resistinc.org/
Resist, Inc. -- Funding Grassroots Progressive Activist Radical Groups and Organizations Since 1967
Resist n. 1. An activist foundation that strives for social change and works against injustice. 2. A grantmaker for groups defending the rights of lesbians and gay men, workers, women, the poor, native people, people of color, the disabled, and immigrants. 3. A different kind of funding organization seeking out groups that withstand reactionary government policies, corporate arrogance, and right-wing fanaticism through organizing, education and action.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: banfunding; citizenpatrols; demsocialists; grijalva; noamchomsky; normanfoundation; resistinc; shootthebastards; simcox
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I sure wouldn't want to make Henrietta mad!!!
1 posted on 12/23/2002 11:55:16 AM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
BTTT!
2 posted on 12/23/2002 11:58:04 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: Free the USA; Luis Gonzalez; Tancredo Fan; Marine Inspector; Ajnin; agitator; Tancred; Spiff; ...
I wasn't going to ping anyone until after the holidays. I just couldn't pass this one up. :=) zinger ping

With all respect, Feliz Navidad!

3 posted on 12/23/2002 12:00:20 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
The time for debate has nearly come to an end.
4 posted on 12/23/2002 12:00:33 PM PST by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: Admin Moderator
Before the title of this thread gets labeled racists, I would like to point out the context of its use, which might not be clear. It's a response to Congressman Grijalva's comments below:

Today, I read a second article from the Tucson Citizen. This is the quote that set me off a second time:

"If you shine the light on the cockroaches, they don't like it,"

Rep.-elect Raúl Grijalva says at a press conference yesterday in calling for an investigation of citizen patrols, which he says are racist.

Thank you and Merry Christmas!
5 posted on 12/23/2002 12:05:53 PM PST by madfly
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
I sent all 3 the Citizen Volunteer Groups a copy of this, for Christmas, lol.
6 posted on 12/23/2002 12:08:40 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
""They (illegal immigrants) have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

Apparently "our" elected officials agree with this.

7 posted on 12/23/2002 12:09:09 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: madfly
BTTT
8 posted on 12/23/2002 12:15:03 PM PST by occam's chainsaw
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To: Scuttlebutt; MedProf; LadyX; Vigilant1; Lazamataz; hogwaller; rdavis84; SAMWolf; 4TheFlag; ...
ping
9 posted on 12/23/2002 12:20:22 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
How apt. Now the terms "Sierra Times" and "cockroach" will be inseparately, irrevocably linked in my mind.
10 posted on 12/23/2002 12:25:09 PM PST by strela
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ping
11 posted on 12/23/2002 12:26:01 PM PST by madfly
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To: strela
I sometimes wonder if the good folk at Sierra Times are just clueless about how to present their arguments, or they're doing so under the sponsorship and direction of the DNC.
12 posted on 12/23/2002 12:26:55 PM PST by Poohbah
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To: strela
Why is that?
13 posted on 12/23/2002 12:27:16 PM PST by madfly
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To: madfly
"They (illegal immigrants) have civil rights and human rights that take precedence over defending the country."

Excuse me???? They are NOT Americans. Is that what this "person" really believes? Why do these people insist that foreigners in our country have the same rights as citizens? Wonder where she thinks ANYBODY's civil rights will be when there is no longer a country to defend.

14 posted on 12/23/2002 12:32:49 PM PST by sweetliberty
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To: madfly
Why is that?

(brightly) Why, because the words "cockroaches" and "Sierra Times" both appear in the article!

15 posted on 12/23/2002 12:33:25 PM PST by strela
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To: Poohbah
This isn't representative of their articles.

This is a woman sounding off on the War Room forum section of the site. And the comment's by Grijalva made her mad enough to dig up the goods on the "recently renamed" group, Border Action Network, who compiled a 20 page .pdf file for Grijalva to present to our Governor Elect (Napolitano) and Attorney General, calling for an investigation of the Citizen Patrol groups, when it's the group that compiled the report that has a lot more to hide, it seems, and should be investigated.


16 posted on 12/23/2002 12:38:27 PM PST by madfly
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To: Poohbah
I think the "breaking point" for me was the serious assertions that once appeared in a Sierra Times article that solemnly assured us that Tennessee state troopers had hundreds of automatic weapons trained on unsuspecting women and children at a recent tax protest. Of course, nobody could produce a photograph or any documentary evidence that this actually happened, and no retraction was ever run in Sierra Times.

The enemy of my enemy is not always my friend.

17 posted on 12/23/2002 12:41:00 PM PST by strela
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To: Poohbah; strela; madfly
I think you're wrong about the Sierra Times. Unless I'm mistaken, it's actually a pretty good paper, and really does present the REAL news. Don't confuse it with the Sierra CLUB. They'e the real bad news bears.
18 posted on 12/23/2002 12:47:20 PM PST by holyscroller
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To: holyscroller
See my Number 17 - its a true story. They've pretty much worn out the credulity envelope with me.
19 posted on 12/23/2002 12:51:39 PM PST by strela
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To: holyscroller; Poohbah; strela
I find them to be seekers of the truth. FreeRepublic links to them on the homepage. Freepers have published articles over there; Carry_Okie, nunyabidness are two that come to mind.

Anyhow, what's are your thoughts on this particular article, please, if we are done dancing around the topic.

20 posted on 12/23/2002 12:54:45 PM PST by madfly
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