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Oregon Has At Least $11.04 Billion In Potential Surpluses of the Taxpayers Money it is not using.
www.cafrman.com ^ | not given | Gerald R. Klatt

Posted on 01/17/2003 4:11:41 PM PST by EBUCK

Oregon Has At Least $11.04 Billion In Potential Surpluses of the Taxpayers Money it is not using.

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Introduction

The State of Oregon at the State-level has approximately $11.04 billion of the taxpayer's money it is not using, i. e. potential surpluses equal to $3,147 for every man, women and child in Oregon or $12,590 for a family of 4. This does not include all the additional potential surpluses that exist in the school districts, cities, or counties in Oregon.

The Oregon review is shown in Exhibit A below in this report.


Simultaneous Budget Deficits/Shortfalls and Financial Surpluses

This is the most deceiving topic that governments, politicians, and the news media have conveyed to the public about governmental financial matters. In realty, a government can simultaneously have a budget shortfall and a financial surplus of the taxpayers' money.

The problem can be broken down into three areas:

1. The budget only covers a small portion of the State's financial condition. There are a group of funds not part of the budget process. The complete list of funds and budgetary requirements are found in the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report (CAFR). This report depicts the complete financial status of the State. The budget only covers a portion of the financial resources.

2. The budget is current revenues minus current expenditures. Previous years' revenues are normally not considered in the current budget, but should be. In other words, the previous years' revenues are not recycled back to the current budget process.

Why does Residential Assistance have reserves of 16 years of expenditures? This is $74 million.

Employment Services made a FY 2002 profit of $68 million but has a reserve of $284 million.

Consumer Protection made a FY 2002 profit of $10 million but it has a reserve of $53 million.

3. The budgeted funds and non-budgeted funds should have zero-based funding on a pay-as-you-go basis. What this means is that you budget to have a zero fund balance. If you plan to spend $100 you budget for $100 with no excess or reserve allowed.

SAIF Corporation (workers' compensation) had 67 years of reserves for its expenditures. This is $3 billion.

Unemployment Compensation had net expenses of $143 million with a reserve of of $1.6 billion. That is 11 years.

Housing and Community Developoment made a profit of $8 million, all of it from cash and investments of $641 million.

These are only six (6) of the 43 or so funds listed in the report below that make up the $11.04 billion in potential surpluses.

The State legislators should include previous years revenues not used in the budget process. These were once a revenue and should still be considered revenue for budgetary purposes.

Also, they should consider a zero-balance budget concept for all budget and non-budgetary items in the CAFR including the College and Universities and the Component Units.

The State legislators should take into consideration the entire financial condition/status of the State in the budgetary process by including the fund balances in the CAFR as being a part of the budget as "previous years' revenues".

This system is covered in the CAFR Budget System.

If the State holds the excesses/surplus, it will earn 4% to 5% on that money. If the State returns the money to the people it will receive 20% in revenue because of the increased economic activity. This is elementary economics.

There are laws that state this or that regarding the use of some of the funds. Man made the laws, man can change the laws. How much effort would it be to include at the end of every law "...or if considered excess or not needed for the current operation that the funds will be refunded to the taxpayers?" See how easy it is.

At one time every law had its place, but things change. The laws need to be reviewed for change to meet the current needs of the government and the people.

If this were accomplished, the State would have a huge surplus to refund to the taxpayers. Such a refund would create jobs, increase wages, increase State and local government revenues, dramatically increase the economy, and create the greatest economic expansion in the history of the State. Everyone wins.

If you want to know the financial condition of your government(s), do not look in the budget. Get the CAFR.


What are these surpluses you have been talking about?

Government surpluses, as used in this report, are funds that are not required or needed for the operation of all government operations, funds, accounts, agencies, etc., directly or indirectly, for the year(s) covered by the budget which is usually one year. Theoretically, at the end of every fiscal year, governments should have little or no cash/investments on hand. But what we have found is that most governments have huge amounts of cash and investments on hand at the end of the fiscal year. And somehow these cash and investments are not being recycled back through the budget process the next year, but are being held year-after-year and the income and amounts keep increasing.


Potential surpluses are just the beginning

As stated above Oregon's potential surpluses at the State-level for FY 2002 had reached $11.04 billion. But the $3,147 per capita is just the tip of the iceberg. It is what happens if that $11.04 billion is returned to each Oregon taxpayer on an equal basis that makes history. Using elementary economic principles found in every Econ 101 text book, after one year the refunds turn into total benefits of $6,924 per capita or $27,697 for a family of 4 and much more.

Here is a chart that tells the whole story, but only for the major portion of State-level government, not the potential surpluses at the school districts, cities, or counties in Oregon. Their potential surpluses would be added to the amounts indicated below.

Economic Impact Analysis Summary - Oregon CAFR Review - FY 2002

FIRST YEAR BENEFITS PER CAPITA
Economic Principle   Explanation   Amount
(In Thousands)
Per Capita Family of 4
Actual Refund   Total Potential Surpluses   $ 11,038,008 $ 3,147 $ 12,590
             
Economic Output Multiplier (EOM)  

For every $1 of refund to the people the economic activity increases by $2. This is the increase in Gross State Product (GSP). Results in increased sales for local businesses.

  $ 22,076,016    
    Increase in GSP - Sales   18.10%    
             
Economic Earnings Multiplier (EEM)  

For every $1 of refund to the people the wages paid to each household wage earner increases by $.50.

  $ 5,519,004 $ 1,5174 $ 6,295
             
Employment Ratio (ER)  

For each $100,000 in increased economic activity, one additional job is created

  220,760 jobs created    
             

Increase in State Revenues means a Reduction in Taxes

 

All governments earn revenue based on the economic activity in their respective taxing jurisdiction. For every $1 of economic activity, the State receives revenue of approximately $.10. This increase in revenue should result in reduced taxes.

  $ 1,545,321 $ 441 $1,763
             
Increase in Local Revenues  

For every $1 of economic activity, the local governments receive revenue of approximately $.08.

  $ 1,766,081 $ 504 $ 2,014
             
Increase in Federal Revenues  

The Federal government earns $.20 on every $1 in economic activity.

  $ 4,415,203 $ 1,259 $ 5,036
             
    TOTAL BENEFITS THE FIRST YEAR     $ 6,924

$ 27,697

When governments lower taxes, government revenues increase

Yes, this is true. Why does President Bush want to lower taxes - to stimulate the economy so the Federal government can earn more revenue. There are those in Congress who say lowering taxes will result in deficit spending. This is absolutely false. If anyone is interested in the proof for this principle, here is where it can be found -

If governments hold and invest the surpluses, they will earn about 4-5% on the money. If the State government returns the money to the people, it will receive about 20% on the money based on the increased economic activity. Elected official do not understand economics.


The business community suffers the most.

Before the 9-11 tragedy, President Bush and Congress provided tax rebates which averaged $427 for every American. This was to create an additional $60 billion in consumer (economic) spending, turn the economy around and create jobs for the unemployed. However, 9-11 change that and an additional 1 million jobs were lost and the economy, already in a recession, continues to deteriorate.

As the above economic impact chart shows, if the State returned the $11.04 billion in surpluses to the people the State economy would grow by $6,295 per capita. That is 15 times the amount the Federal government used to stimulate the U.S. economy. Businesses net incomes could double or triple. This is elementary economics.

There is no need for a budget crisis, an economic recession or unemployment in Oregon.


Excuses

For a list and response to the various excuses provided by governments for holding excesses of the taxpayers money, please go to this link.


What you can do

Tell a friend or relative about this report. Did you know that if you tell 5 people about this report and ask them to tell 5 more people, that in only 8 iterations, 390,625 people will be notified?

Contact your State representative (or all your State representatives).

Send them an email, send them a copy of this report, and ask them to provide you with their results of analyzing the CAFR. If you only want to provide a link to this report, the link is http://www.cafrman.com/Articles/Art-OR-S1.htm.


Locating Your State Representative

Locate Your State Elected Officials Here:  

Exhibit A

The 2002 CAFR is located at:

http://scd.das.state.or.us/publications.htm

  Review of The State of Oregon CAFR- FY 2002

CAFR Page List of Investments By Fund (In thousands) Potential Surpluses Notes
  Governmental Funds and Activities:    
28    General    
28    Health and Social Services 343,934  
28    Public Transportation 521,949  
29    Environmental Management 200,370  
     Special Revenue:    
108       Agricultural Resources 15,594  
108       Business Development 66,839  
108       Community Protection 35,670  
109       Consumer Protection 52,690  
109       Educational Support 65,302  
109       Employment Services 284,216  
109       Nutritional Support 294  
109       Residential Assistance 74,171  
109       Other Special Revenue

17,792  
     Debt Service:    
110       Revenue Bond Fund 76,024  
110       Certificates of Participation 36,793  
110       General Obligation Bond 4,527  
     Capital Projects:    
110       Capital Projects 73,264  
     Permanent Fund:    
111       Education Endowment 228,197  
111       Housing Guarantee 15,680  
111       Other Permanent 12,712  
  Proprietary Funds:    
     Enterprise Funds:    
36       Housing and Community Services 641,478  
36       Veterans' Loan 838,727  
36       Lottery Operations 272,266  
37       Unemployment Compensation 1,598,155  
37       University System 637,467  
        Nonmajor Funds:    
118          Energy Loan 72,216  
118          Water Resources 3,767  
118          Business Development 6,192  
119          Special Public Works 63,029  
119          State Hospitals 9,357  
119          Liquor Control 18,310  
119          Veterans' Home 527  
119          Water

48,627  
119          Other Enterprise 38,265  
     Internal Service:  
128       Central Services 286,456  
128       Legal Services 11,485  
128       Banking Services 1,995  
129       Audit Services 1,350  
129       Forestry Services 3,412  
129       Other Internal Service 6,871  
  Fiduciary Funds:    
     Pension:    
138       Public Employees Retirement    
138       Postemployment Healthcare    
138       Deferred Compensation

   
     Private Purpose Trust:    
140       Common School 732,479  
140       Other Private Purpose Trust 35,308  
     Investment Trust    
     Agency Funds    
  Discretely Presented Component Units:    
48    SAIF Corporation 2,987,722  
48    Oregon Health and Science University 596,529  
48    Children's Trust Fund of Oregon    
  Total Potential Surpluses… 11,038,008  
  Per Capita… 3,147  
  Family of 4… 12,590  

Note: For those familiar with governmental accounting, for potential surpluses we basically used GFOA Balance Sheet Account Classification Codes 101, 102, 103, 151, 153, 170 and 181.


This report was prepared by:
Gerald R. Klatt
www.cafrman.com

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KEYWORDS: crooked; oregon; politicians; surplus; taxes
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OMG!!!!!! Look at this!
1 posted on 01/17/2003 4:11:41 PM PST by EBUCK
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2 posted on 01/17/2003 4:13:03 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: EBUCK
Can you say . . . T A X C U T

Let's see if Oregon proposes giving people their money back, or if they say "how can we spend this extra cash?"

3 posted on 01/17/2003 4:13:30 PM PST by PokeyJoe (At the anti-war rally tomorrow, eat a pork BBQ sandwich and yell "Save an Iraqi, eat Pork!!")
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To: EBUCK; 1more4perfecteconomy; AndreaZingg; Andy from Beaverton; anechoic; Animaltrout; ...
Spread this info to everyone you know, even liberals, socialists, commies, treehuggers, bums, transvestites whoever will listen.


My letter to every lawmaker in the state....

A friend sent this to me.

Oregon Has At Least $11.04 Billion In Potential Surpluses of the Taxpayers
Money it is not using.

Link...
http://www.cafrman.com/Articles/Art-OR-S1.htm

From the CAFR Network...if this is true and from what I can gather it
certainly is, what are you guys doing up there trying to raise taxes? You
had better hope this never gets out to the public because the fallout of
raising taxes (or even worse, measure 28 fails and you cut essential
services) when you absolutely didn't have to and lied about it will be
politically insurmoutable. And I fully intend to make this information as
widely spread as possible.

If there is a logical and rational explanation for you not using our money
(cheifly government profit) while asking for more, I would love to hear
it. I doubt that there is but I still offer you the opportunity to do so.


Best Regards,
4 posted on 01/17/2003 4:14:03 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: PokeyJoe
Can you say "no incumbents" if they don't stop this crap immediately!
5 posted on 01/17/2003 4:14:46 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: PokeyJoe
"how can we spend this extra cash?"

Music to a liberal's ears.

6 posted on 01/17/2003 4:15:00 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Islam is EVIL.)
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To: Support Free Republic
Employment Services made a FY 2002 profit of $68 million

What is this supposed to mean? The people are overcharged for the services the govt provides?

7 posted on 01/17/2003 4:15:36 PM PST by Cool Guy
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To: EBUCK
Look. They ain't giving the money back. No way, no how. They are politicians. There should be bond measures put on the ballot though, if Oregon has a proposition system to spend the money now... instead of it paying for welfare in 10 years.

Road construction bills, allowing private contractors to place bids, should be done with the money. Tax free loans to companies that want to build nuke plants. Tax incentives for businesses to relocate to Oregon.. Free recipe booklets for Spotted Owl souffle... anything, because this money will otherwise go down the drain.

8 posted on 01/17/2003 4:16:08 PM PST by dogbyte12
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To: EBUCK
WOW!!!!!!!

If I was living in OR I'd be refreshing my knowledge of the word REFUND!

9 posted on 01/17/2003 4:16:27 PM PST by OXENinFLA (No taxation without representation)
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To: dogbyte12
Well they certainly aint taking any more! I think we should tax their profits....the governments that is.
10 posted on 01/17/2003 4:18:00 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
Cut taxes, log timber, mine for minerals, hatch fish, abolish the ESA, abbolish the UN, drill for oil in ANWR!

Be Well - Be Armed - Be Safe - Molon Labe!
11 posted on 01/17/2003 4:18:03 PM PST by blackie
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To: OXENinFLA
REFUND?? that aint in my Oregon dictionary....
12 posted on 01/17/2003 4:18:57 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: blackie
and rollover the previous years profits into the current years budget!!!! is that so hard?
13 posted on 01/17/2003 4:19:42 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
HOLY COW!!
14 posted on 01/17/2003 4:19:51 PM PST by cake_crumb (What would we do without FR? Don't wait to find out. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: OXENinFLA
If I was living in OR I'd be refreshing my knowledge of the word REFUND!

It means "fund again", don't it? I think that's why everything the Gubmint does is twice as expensive as when the private sector does it.

15 posted on 01/17/2003 4:21:23 PM PST by gundog
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To: cake_crumb
That's what I said! I'm stunned and for the first time I feel really surprised at the depth to which these people will go!
16 posted on 01/17/2003 4:22:23 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
Did ya catch Kulongoski's comment that there were ways that funding cuts could be avoided, but to implement them would result in the government "losing credibility"? Hell...an admisssion like that would go a long way towards establishing some credibility with me.
17 posted on 01/17/2003 4:24:05 PM PST by gundog
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To: EBUCK
Interesting considering they tanked the Oregon retirement bonds in the mid 90's on the PAMCORP fiasco. Is this money they were supposed to resupply that loss with?
18 posted on 01/17/2003 4:24:30 PM PST by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: EBUCK
BTTT
19 posted on 01/17/2003 4:24:39 PM PST by EdReform (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/581234/posts)
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
From what I can tell, and I aint an expert...individual fund surplusses are just rolled over into their next years fund or retained as a safety net. No accountability for that money because of the way Oregon compartmentalizes it's functions.
20 posted on 01/17/2003 4:27:20 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: gundog
I didn't catch that...think this is what he was talking about??
21 posted on 01/17/2003 4:27:43 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
Dunno...whatever it was people should be fuming pissed about those 5 special sessions and Kitz's threats. Any idea what these monthly elections are costing?
22 posted on 01/17/2003 4:35:58 PM PST by gundog
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To: EBUCK; billbears; 4ConservativeJustices; stainlessbanner
This may be the biggest scandal in politics. Worth investigating.
23 posted on 01/17/2003 4:36:46 PM PST by Ff--150
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To: EBUCK
This is friggin unbelievable. Does Oregon have mandated performance audits? Perhaps, an initiative, if not?!!!
24 posted on 01/17/2003 4:37:59 PM PST by bigfootbob
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To: EBUCK
Man have you been doing you homework! Deception is the name of the game in the Oregon tax increase regime.
25 posted on 01/17/2003 4:42:33 PM PST by pyromike
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To: EBUCK
And... on 28 Jan 2003 we are voting on Measure 28 an Income Tax INCREASE!
26 posted on 01/17/2003 4:45:20 PM PST by Yasotay
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To: EBUCK
I'll go back to read it all, but kuddo's go to our brand new state legislator (Jacksonville), Dennis Richardson who got on this committee and found that PERS (Public employee retirement System)had been getting .5% more than they are even scheduled for...which is around 100 million extra.......but I understand it will take passing legislation just to stop the overflow! PERS uses up half of the city of Medford budget.....insanity!
27 posted on 01/17/2003 4:48:24 PM PST by AuntB (Support our Troops!!)
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To: EBUCK
I wonder if California really has a surplus and the Dems are just lying?


28 posted on 01/17/2003 4:48:43 PM PST by Weimdog
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To: EBUCK
Then the liberals, socialists, commies, treehuggers, bums and transvestites will insist that Oregon's plan for 'free' socialized health care IS possible, using the surplus!

NOTE: don't bother asking them what happens when the surplus runs out; their eyes glaze over

29 posted on 01/17/2003 4:52:37 PM PST by cake_crumb (What would we do without FR? Don't wait to find out. Become a monthly donor.)
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To: gundog
The numbers may differ, but the SAME situation exists in your own state......All 50 states, every county, and most larger cities.......can you say you "been had"??
30 posted on 01/17/2003 4:56:41 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (HUMAN BEINGS need Government as badly as snakes need teats.)
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To: EBUCK
The feds ought to pass a law that states with surpluses should transfer them to states with deficits. Us Californians really could use the extra $11 bln right now and the nation as a whole would be stronger for it.

How about they do it for the children?

31 posted on 01/17/2003 5:10:04 PM PST by umgud
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To: EBUCK
No problem!

Just send it to California.

Or we'll all come up there to live...
32 posted on 01/17/2003 5:13:02 PM PST by null and void (Taxation WITH representaion isn't all that great, either...)
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To: S.O.S121.500
I do live in Oregon. I think...it's not raining now, so I could be wrong.
34 posted on 01/17/2003 5:17:57 PM PST by gundog
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To: DoughtyOne
Ye God...no wonder I like the woods so much.
35 posted on 01/17/2003 5:19:17 PM PST by gundog
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To: S.O.S121.500
Last time I checked, Washington state had a $60 Billion surplus. Strange how the Governor says that services need to be cut to make ends meet, huh?
36 posted on 01/17/2003 5:23:39 PM PST by 11B3 (Minigun the liberal masses. Bayonnet the survivors. (Wash, rinse, repeat.))
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To: 11B3
I guess the stock market devaluation had mor impact than I thought on the state's surplus - for FY 2002, Washington's surplus is 17.5 Billion.
37 posted on 01/17/2003 5:27:15 PM PST by 11B3 (Minigun the liberal masses. Bayonnet the survivors. (Wash, rinse, repeat.))
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To: PokeyJoe
SHHH..not so loud this is a BIG SECRET from the TaxSERFS. You aren't supposed to know about the CAFR.
38 posted on 01/17/2003 5:31:43 PM PST by GailA (Throw Away the Keys)
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To: EBUCK
WOW. Thanks for the post.

NO ON MEASURE 28!
39 posted on 01/17/2003 5:34:14 PM PST by FBD (Democrat free since 1991; feels real good! No, I did not vote for Clintoon.)
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To: GailA
Next step READ your state's budget and find the PORK. Believe me after the fight to keep the INCOME TAX out of Tennessee we know ya gotta READ their budgets.
40 posted on 01/17/2003 5:36:38 PM PST by GailA (Throw Away the Keys, Tennessee Tea Party!)
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To: EBUCK
I live in central Oregon and due to state budget shortfalls, the schools receive less so the kids who want to play school sports have to pay $100 for each sport they play....
41 posted on 01/17/2003 5:43:54 PM PST by Searching4Justice
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To: Cool Guy
What is this supposed to mean? The people are overcharged for the services the govt provides?

No, it means that the people are overcharged for the services that government DOES NOT provide. Consider the government schools, your local DMV, trying to get a stinking building permit, etc. Government does not solve problems, EVER.

42 posted on 01/17/2003 5:44:01 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Searching4Justice; pyromike
I just got a copy of my local school districts Administrative payroll...from an inside source no less.

Pyro...you might like to see this too..

HESSELDAHL, NORMAN 50049
HOAGLAND, TERRY 77000
KELLY, STEVE 81000
LARSON, RETHA 44942
LUBER, KERRY 83000
MENDELSSOHN, ED 70000
NAGEL, JEFFREY 75000
RAZE, LEANNE 70000
RAY, KEN 73298
RITCHIE, SUANN 78000
ROBINSON, JIM 104803
SLAUSON, ROB 81000
VANBLARICOM, DIANE 79669
WILLIAMS, RON 68500
WILLIAMS, STEVE 90677
WOODY, KEN 81750
COLLINS, KIM 38355
MCKENZIE, KATE 38355
SCHURR, KATHY 37420

TOTAL 1,707,479

(our town has less than 20K population)

Not counting teachers, food, books, supplies, etc.....

I'm getting a bit hot under the collar, and so is the WIFE...she's going ballistic..
43 posted on 01/17/2003 6:34:31 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: gundog
"I do live in Oregon. I think...it's not raining now, so I could be wrong."

Sorry I should have checked your profile page and noted that. Bump

44 posted on 01/17/2003 7:12:11 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Opposite of Right is Wrong.....)
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To: EBUCK
geeez this legalized babysitting thing is getting out of hand with all these "paper shufflers" ...making the big bucks. I bet none of those administrators has ever worked as hard in one day as a kid going out for football, throwing up his guts in summer practice, and yet they have to pay.......Well I am glad to hear they do have a surplus because I have the "goods" on their geology dept (DOGAMI) since they decided to obstruct justice by not doing their job and allowing the FEDS (BLM) to illegally destroy my mining business with both entities committing mail fraud and all other types of Mafia crimes.....oh yes we need more government like we need a headache !!!my site concerning my mining

http://members.tripod.com/~LaPineNet/index-23.html

45 posted on 01/17/2003 7:15:19 PM PST by Searching4Justice
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To: EBUCK
Good gracious! That's for just the administrators? I'm stunned! But, it explains why we have about 1 administrator for every 3 teachers. (This is a factoid I heard a number of years ago. If it's wrong, feel free to correct me.)

Hubby's in business and knows more about budgets than anyone has a right to know. I'm going to email this to him. I can't wait to see his reaction!

BTW, do you know off the top of your head what the annual state budget is? If it was in the article, I missed it. I've been trying to remember, but no luck so far.

46 posted on 01/17/2003 10:31:12 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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BTW, did you hear that the Kitzhabers have announced their divorce?

Mighty strange that they married just before he took office, and are divorcing just after leaving office.

I wonder if this could have anything to do with his decision not to run for the Senate?

One more thing, they are vacationing...together...in Hawaii.

Strange.

47 posted on 01/17/2003 10:44:44 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: EBUCK
Great find! Thanks
48 posted on 01/17/2003 11:38:26 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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To: dixiechick2000
Shocked! Shocked! Did you like the 5pm Friday end of the day before vacation announcement? It explains why the man was so angry his last two years. Can we say the announcement was political?
49 posted on 01/18/2003 8:16:03 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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To: Andy from Beaverton
Yeah, couple the end of the day on Friday announcement, and the fact that he and his "family" are out of the state...reminds me of something Clinton would do. I wouldn't vacation with my soon-to-be ex-husband.

This announcement was political in the extreme.

The whole thing is strange. The timing on his marriage and divorce, to me, is very suspect. Did he feel the need to take a wife for political reasons? Is this why he didn't run for the Senate? But, getting a divorce shouldn't have hurt him in Oregon. Arkansas, maybe...but not Oregon.

There is more to this than we know.

50 posted on 01/18/2003 9:42:59 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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