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Oregon Has At Least $11.04 Billion In Potential Surpluses of the Taxpayers Money it is not using.
www.cafrman.com ^ | not given | Gerald R. Klatt

Posted on 01/17/2003 4:11:41 PM PST by EBUCK

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To: EBUCK
I live in central Oregon and due to state budget shortfalls, the schools receive less so the kids who want to play school sports have to pay $100 for each sport they play....
41 posted on 01/17/2003 5:43:54 PM PST by Searching4Justice
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To: Cool Guy
What is this supposed to mean? The people are overcharged for the services the govt provides?

No, it means that the people are overcharged for the services that government DOES NOT provide. Consider the government schools, your local DMV, trying to get a stinking building permit, etc. Government does not solve problems, EVER.

42 posted on 01/17/2003 5:44:01 PM PST by Lizavetta
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To: Searching4Justice; pyromike
I just got a copy of my local school districts Administrative payroll...from an inside source no less.

Pyro...you might like to see this too..

HESSELDAHL, NORMAN 50049
HOAGLAND, TERRY 77000
KELLY, STEVE 81000
LARSON, RETHA 44942
LUBER, KERRY 83000
MENDELSSOHN, ED 70000
NAGEL, JEFFREY 75000
RAZE, LEANNE 70000
RAY, KEN 73298
RITCHIE, SUANN 78000
ROBINSON, JIM 104803
SLAUSON, ROB 81000
VANBLARICOM, DIANE 79669
WILLIAMS, RON 68500
WILLIAMS, STEVE 90677
WOODY, KEN 81750
COLLINS, KIM 38355
MCKENZIE, KATE 38355
SCHURR, KATHY 37420

TOTAL 1,707,479

(our town has less than 20K population)

Not counting teachers, food, books, supplies, etc.....

I'm getting a bit hot under the collar, and so is the WIFE...she's going ballistic..
43 posted on 01/17/2003 6:34:31 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: gundog
"I do live in Oregon. I think...it's not raining now, so I could be wrong."

Sorry I should have checked your profile page and noted that. Bump

44 posted on 01/17/2003 7:12:11 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Opposite of Right is Wrong.....)
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To: EBUCK
geeez this legalized babysitting thing is getting out of hand with all these "paper shufflers" ...making the big bucks. I bet none of those administrators has ever worked as hard in one day as a kid going out for football, throwing up his guts in summer practice, and yet they have to pay.......Well I am glad to hear they do have a surplus because I have the "goods" on their geology dept (DOGAMI) since they decided to obstruct justice by not doing their job and allowing the FEDS (BLM) to illegally destroy my mining business with both entities committing mail fraud and all other types of Mafia crimes.....oh yes we need more government like we need a headache !!!my site concerning my mining

http://members.tripod.com/~LaPineNet/index-23.html

45 posted on 01/17/2003 7:15:19 PM PST by Searching4Justice
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To: EBUCK
Good gracious! That's for just the administrators? I'm stunned! But, it explains why we have about 1 administrator for every 3 teachers. (This is a factoid I heard a number of years ago. If it's wrong, feel free to correct me.)

Hubby's in business and knows more about budgets than anyone has a right to know. I'm going to email this to him. I can't wait to see his reaction!

BTW, do you know off the top of your head what the annual state budget is? If it was in the article, I missed it. I've been trying to remember, but no luck so far.

46 posted on 01/17/2003 10:31:12 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: EBUCK
BTW, did you hear that the Kitzhabers have announced their divorce?

Mighty strange that they married just before he took office, and are divorcing just after leaving office.

I wonder if this could have anything to do with his decision not to run for the Senate?

One more thing, they are vacationing...together...in Hawaii.

Strange.

47 posted on 01/17/2003 10:44:44 PM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: EBUCK
Great find! Thanks
48 posted on 01/17/2003 11:38:26 PM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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To: dixiechick2000
Shocked! Shocked! Did you like the 5pm Friday end of the day before vacation announcement? It explains why the man was so angry his last two years. Can we say the announcement was political?
49 posted on 01/18/2003 8:16:03 AM PST by Andy from Beaverton
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Yeah, couple the end of the day on Friday announcement, and the fact that he and his "family" are out of the state...reminds me of something Clinton would do. I wouldn't vacation with my soon-to-be ex-husband.

This announcement was political in the extreme.

The whole thing is strange. The timing on his marriage and divorce, to me, is very suspect. Did he feel the need to take a wife for political reasons? Is this why he didn't run for the Senate? But, getting a divorce shouldn't have hurt him in Oregon. Arkansas, maybe...but not Oregon.

There is more to this than we know.

50 posted on 01/18/2003 9:42:59 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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To: EBUCK
I emailed this to my husband, as I said I would.

He forwarded it to Lars Larson.

51 posted on 01/18/2003 11:18:46 AM PST by dixiechick2000 (Maybe the hokey pokey IS what it's all about...)
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I sent it to Lars as well as Craig the DogFace Boy among others....it's time to see how good the media in Oregon really is.
52 posted on 01/18/2003 1:18:23 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
I've heard a guy call Lars more than once talking about the CAFR, I really haven't heard Lars get all that excited about this CAFR deal. I don't know whether it's a non-issue, governmental accounting tricks, or whatever. It seems to me that if it was a real smoking gun that the media would have been all over it by now.
53 posted on 01/18/2003 7:58:11 PM PST by Tailback
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To: Ff--150
Thanks for the flag, Ff--150. Saving for a rainy day?
54 posted on 01/18/2003 8:33:17 PM PST by stainlessbanner
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To: Tailback
From the replies I've seen, Lars and others know about it but think that "we" are in on it. As if there is no one behind the "curtain".

I don't know, but I feel a bit of a shafting coming on......
55 posted on 01/19/2003 9:25:28 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
Unf*****g beleivable. I find myself getting hot under the collar as well. Thanks for the bump.
56 posted on 01/20/2003 4:50:10 PM PST by pyromike
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To: pyromike
No problem, no one is listening, I've hit every media outlet in thee states with this info...what are we missing?
57 posted on 01/20/2003 10:51:58 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: pyromike; 1more4perfecteconomy; AndreaZingg; Andy from Beaverton; anechoic; Animaltrout; ...
Response from my Senator..

Dear Eric,

Thank you for your message and the information you provided. I'll be reviewing the information to see if there is any validity to it. If you have any further data, please let me know.

Sincerely,


Senator Roger Beyer

First out of maybe 500 recipients to respond.
If anyone has more info/data please provide it to me or send it to Sen Beyers directly.
Gotta be quick about it tho, only a few more days until deadline.
58 posted on 01/21/2003 3:50:55 PM PST by EBUCK (....reloading....praparing to FIRE!!!)
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To: EBUCK
Vote no on 28! Bump.
59 posted on 01/21/2003 4:19:59 PM PST by SAMWolf (To look into the eyes of the wolf is to see your soul)
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To: EBUCK
Cool. I'm going to contact all the reps that were on the "no" side of measure 28...they're listed in the voter's pamphlet.
60 posted on 01/21/2003 6:01:13 PM PST by AuntB (Support our Troops!!)
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