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Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!
Nasa TV | 02/01/03 | GRRRR

Posted on 02/01/2003 6:16:05 AM PST by GRRRRR

Shuttle has NOT been heard from or seen on tracking radar since 0800Hrs CDT. No contact at Merrit Island tracking station, no voice comm...DEVELOPING.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Florida; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: astronauts; columbia; columbiatragedy; disaster; du; feb12003; ilanramon; india; israel; nasa; ramon; revoltingevilduers; shuttle; space; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: The South Park Republican
Of course the fools at DUhhh can only think of one thing...

"Shuttle Tragedy: How Fortunate For Bush"

What a bunch of hate-filled wretches.

701 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:10 AM PST by Smile-n-Win
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To: The South Park Republican
Of course the fools at DUhhh can only think of one thing...

"Shuttle Tragedy: How Fortunate For Bush"

http://www.democraticunderground.com/duforum/DCForumID60/32783.html

"Now he can get on camera with a tearful and heartfelt message about how they were brave heroes who "touched the face of god" (or some other Reaganesque drivel written for him) and lo-and-behold... ALL AMERICA WILL ADORE BUSH AGAIN.

How fortunate that he gets to rally America for yet another tragedy that occured under his watch.

He'll get to play the comforting and wise father-figure. (I think I'm going to be sick!)

-- Allen"

Typical. Wouldn't expect anything more or less out of the DUmmies.

702 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:13 AM PST by LoneGOPinCT (From the Land of Liberalty)
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To: davidosborne
Thanks for the ping - may God bless the crew and see them through to whatever or wherever their souls desire. Condolences aren't exactly enough for their families, but it's all we have right now.

This really sucks.
703 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:21 AM PST by 11B3 (Sedition and Treason are DemonRat character traits.)
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To: txdoda; MeeknMing
Is there any news yet about people on the ground, in the path of the debris?

I know there's a lot of open space in Texas, but...
704 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:34 AM PST by HiJinx
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To: primeval patriot
Those are probably the sonic booms of the debris.
705 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:44 AM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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To: The South Park Republican
How fortunate that the people stating such cases are irrelevant, have no influence, and have been demonstrated to be in the extreme minority. How fortunate that whenever maggots like that open their mouths they condemn their own malevolent belief system.
706 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:46 AM PST by L`enn
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To: Smile-n-Win
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On behalf of posters on Free Republic, I post this with deepest sympathy for the crew and their families.

Mission - sts107


707 posted on 02/01/2003 7:29:56 AM PST by DoughtyOne (This grpahic shows the crew that was lost this morning.)
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To: GRRRRR
This is a terrible disaster and I pray for the families of those lost.

However, we must still be vigilant. Who knows what will be buried this weekend because of this.


708 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:02 AM PST by unixfox (Close the borders, problem solved !)
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To: GRRRRR
News reporting debris fiels spread over at least 8 counties. So far, saying all in Texas. This is very close to the Louisiana border.

Praying for the families, and our nation! This is just so sad!!

709 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:03 AM PST by exhaustedmomma (Praying for families of Columbia Shuttle)
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To: SkyPilot
2. the public is going to ask why NASA did not implement an emergency crew egress system after the Challenger disaster...

Why the money for that went to fund all the bogus, useless, worthless AIDS prevention programs, doncha know...!

710 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:08 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: bonesmccoy
agreed
711 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:18 AM PST by davidosborne (www.davidosborne.net)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
More about the Israeli astronaut:

Israel's astronaut carries nation's dreams
BBC News
By Verity Murphy
January 16, 2003


All eyes are on Ilan Ramon

As poster boys for the Israel Space Agency go, it does not come much better than Colonel Ilan Ramon.

As the son of an Auschwitz survivor, who grew up to become a fighter pilot in the Israeli air force and fought in the 1973 Arab-Israeli War - his personal history is intertwined with that of his nation.

I know my flight is very symbolic for the people of Israel, especially the survivors, the Holocaust survivors, because I was born in Israel, many people will see this as a dream that is come true

Ilan Ramon
When he blasts off from the Kennedy Space Center in Florida Ramon will become the first Israeli in space and make Israel the 30th nation to have a citizen fly in orbit.

His flight has become a welcome distraction for Israelis troubled by the ongoing violence in the Middle East and a source of national pride.

Religious artefacts

Ramon will not be the first Jew in space, others who went before him include Judy Resnik, who was killed in the Challenger disaster in 1986.

Nor is Israel's first astronaut a strict practising Jew when on the ground.

But with the eyes of a nation upon as he makes this first symbolic flight, Ramon has been keen to play tribute to his religious heritage.

"As an Israeli and a Jew I asked Nasa if it would be possible to supply kosher food for my menu in space," Ramon said.

"I was surprised and overwhelmed with the effort Nasa put in to trying to accommodate my request," he added.

Among the few personal possessions he will take with him on his 16-day voyage will be mezuzahs - small cases that are hung on door frames of Jewish homes and contain inscriptions from the Bible.

He is also taking a book of Psalms which was given to him by Israel's President Moshe Katsav - the microfiche of the Bible is the size of a credit card.

Tribute to victims

But probably of greatest resonance is a picture drawn by a 14-year-old Jewish boy name Peter Ginz before he was killed in Auschwitz in 1944.

Ramon's own mother Tonya Wolferman was a survivor of the Nazi death camp.


Ramon will take a picture drawn by a boy killed in Auschwitz
The pencil drawing, entitled Moon Landscape, shows a view of the earth from the surface of the moon, as imagined by the boy.

"I know my flight is very symbolic for the people of Israel, especially the survivors, the Holocaust survivors, because I was born in Israel, many people will see this as a dream that is come true," Ramon explained.

"I was born in Israel and I'm kind of the proof for my parents and their generation that whatever we've been fighting for in the last century is becoming true."

Marking the Sabbath

As a representative of the Jewish nation Ramon did face one difficulty though - how to mark the Sabbath in space when a sunset and sunrise occurs every 90 minutes?

I was born in Israel and I'm kind of the proof for my parents and their generation that whatever we've been fighting for in the last century is becoming true

Ilan Ramon
Time permitting, Ramon says he wants to observe the Jewish day of rest as "an act of solidarity with the Jewish tradition".

The ceremony to mark the Sabbath is supposed to begin at sundown, but when the shuttle is in orbit the sun rises and sets 16 times in a 24-hour period.

To solve the theological conundrum Ramon consulted scientists and rabbis alike, and finally they hit upon the solution that he would follow Houston time - the home of Nasa's mission control.

Thanks to the practical restrictions of being in a spacecraft Ramon will also forgo the lighting of candles that features in the Sabbath ceremony.

And he will of course not refrain from all forms of creative labour, such as using electricity and writing, as strict religious Jews do.

Another time peculiarity that the trip has thrown up is that Ramon will miss the upcoming Israeli general election on 28 January.

As a result Ramon has been issued with an absentee ballot, but he said he does not intend to vote.

Rest in peace, Colonel.

Regards, Ivan

712 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:19 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: davidosborne
That's what you'd expect from them. Pray for the shuttle crew and their families.
713 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:33 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: GRRRRR
Ok, I'll have to put on my tinfoil hat to ask this question. Were any government computers affected in last weekend's worm attack? What if someone applied Boyd's manuever attack theories to designing a computer worm/virus? You know create havoc and while everyone's looking at what they think you're doing you go and do what you planned on doing.
TAW
714 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:33 AM PST by Malichi
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To: bonesmccoy
Who's watching FOX? They are rank amatures when there is breaking news on.

Sad to say...
715 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:53 AM PST by The South Park Republican
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To: riversarewet
The surprise is not that we have lost two shuttles, but that we have not lost more.

Given the shuttle's inherent flaws, I couldn't agree more. I think you'll find in upcoming coverage there will be a lot of NASA people saying the same things I'm saying. It's time to finally fix the problem and not slap bandaids on it.

BTW, White House now saying it was impossible that terrorism or sabotage was involved.
716 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:58 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: MeeknMing
Praying for their families, co-workers and for all of us. Just read the crew profiles and I'm close to losing it.
717 posted on 02/01/2003 7:30:59 AM PST by barker
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To: sobieski
I hope the video tapes are rolling in Arab nations.
718 posted on 02/01/2003 7:31:02 AM PST by FreeAtlanta
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To: acnielsen guy
right, a matter of the observer's depth perception would make it appear to be close when if fact it was not.
719 posted on 02/01/2003 7:31:04 AM PST by debg
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To: MeeknMing
Oh, my ! That is scary. I hope it's not. Our world has definitely changed since 9-11 !

The world has gone nuts. Nothing will ever be the same again after 9-11, Meek. :(

720 posted on 02/01/2003 7:31:06 AM PST by SheLion
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