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India Knight: Well, pardon my breasts
The Sunday Times ^ | March 2, 2003 | India Knight

Posted on 03/01/2003 3:28:37 PM PST by MadIvan

This week I will be mostly writing about breasts — so read on, smut hounds. Actually, I will be writing about breastfeeding. No, not so sexy. And that’s the problem, really, with the whole subject. We know that bosoms’ primary purpose is to feed infants, but we also live in a breast-obsessed society, where you can order yourself a pair of celebrity-lookalike knockers in your lunch hour.

Bosoms are everywhere: peering out pertly at the Baftas, bulging enticingly from advertisement hoardings, on extravagant display down your local high street, draped in wisps of fabric and omnipresent on MTV. Bosoms are sexy. Cor! Phwoar! Except, er, when they’re on display doing what they’re there for. No wonder we’re confused.

Not as confused as an Australian state parliament, though, which last week evicted Kirstie Marshall, a 33-year-old MP, for breastfeeding her 10-day-old daughter Charlotte in the chamber. Apparently this was because under some convenient antiquated law, Charlotte was a “stranger” to the house and therefore banned. A bizarre sort of reasoning, this, under which it would presumably be perfectly acceptable to breastfeed non-“strangers”, ie fellow MPs, without risking eviction. Let’s just gag quietly and move swiftly on.

In Britain, a plan to allow women MPs to breastfeed in the House of Commons chamber was blocked by Michael Martin, the Speaker, last year. He overruled plans to allow women to breastfeed in the chamber, committee rooms and public gallery and instead decided to invest in four breastfeeding rooms with nappy-changing facilities (maybe it’s just me, but the idea of a special “breastfeeding room” has an unattractively bovine ring to it). Two years ago, Betty Boothroyd similarly blocked a request by the MP Julia Drown to breastfeed in the Commons tearoom.

Something’s not right here. Breastfeeding is natural, and good for both mother and child, which is why health authorities spend huge amounts each year encouraging new mothers to say no to the evil bottle and yes to the cosy breast pads, pumps and other fun accessories that come with the job. Whatever your views on breastfeeding, it would be absurd to deny women the right to feed their children in public. Why, then, does the subject make so many people wriggly and uncomfortable? You’d think it was a male thing — and you’d be right, but only to a certain extent. I’ve seen men, often fathers themselves, die upon entering a room and sighting a woman breastfeeding her child: they go scarlet, they stammer, they make their excuses and practically gallop out of the room. Some men — often the older ones — are scandalised, as though a mother feeding her child was in fact (the hussy) putting on some kind of saucy floor show.

There’s a problem here and it’s not the mother’s: it’s to do with men having instantly sexual reactions to a bosom. There’s a time and a place for sexual reactions to a pair of bosoms, and a nursing woman — maternal, gentle, nurturing — is not an appropriate recipient of such thoughts. Which men know full well — hence their usually completely OTT reaction: panic, alarm, bluster, exit and the muttered “I think it’s disgraceful” and “Couldn’t she find a quiet room?” which tell you more about the complainant than about the hapless woman.

I find this strange and incredibly irritating. If men can’t differentiate between bosoms doing their thing and bosoms bursting alluringly out of a bra on a billboard — well, it’s about time they tried harder and time we stopped indulging them. Why should a nursing mother be penalised for other people’s uncomfortable thoughts? Why should she be driven to nursing her children furtively, in another room, or with a ridiculous giant blanket thrown over both mother and child? What annoys and flummoxes me more, though, is the way the “disgraceful” argument has trickled its way into women’s reactions.

I know two women with small babies who wouldn’t dream of breastfeeding in public: they simply won’t do it, even though this refusal can, and does, lead to incredible discomfort and stress for everybody involved.

Neither of them, pre-baby, would have batted an eyelid at going out in the skimpiest, sheerest, most revealing tops. Both go topless on holiday and have never expressed discomfort at the idea of having it all on show for anyone who cares to cop an eyeful. So what’s the problem now? “It’s not nice,” apparently. And this isn’t necessarily a bonkers minority female view: motherhood, with its attendant insecurities, has a way of turning the most unlikely people into total weeds or temporary prigs. Nobody, after all, is suggesting you take off your shirt and bra to breastfeed comfortably: we’re talking discreet. And yet there is a division: women who breastfeed in public are almost despised by women who breastfeed only in private.

It’s a sorry, namby-pamby, babyish (ho ho) state of affairs. The Victoria state parliament has ordered a review of parliamentary rules as a result of Marshall’s eviction last week, which is something. Back over here, though, women are still made to feel ambiguous about doing something as fundamental as feeding their own children wherever they happen to be at the time. How pathetic can you get? And would Kirstie Marshall have been evicted if she’d merely been wearing a very low-cut top?

According to research, one in four women takes no exercise at all. According to the Daily Mail, this means they’re going to die of cancer. This is a bit rich, no? One in four women may not go to the gym, or go jogging, but unless they are clinically obese and need to be craned out of their seat to get to the shops, they walk, run, hare after their children, bend down to pick up socks and toys with the monotony of an aerobics routine, and so on. We work all the hours God sends, we bring up children, we run houses, we try to remain vaguely physically attractive; we split ourselves into 18 to please everybody and make sure everyone’s happy — and it’s not good enough, because we should swim more. Is it any wonder one in four of us would rather put her feet up?


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To: Tax-chick
"SIGH...."

Most Civilized Western Citizens I have known have a "HYPER-PROTECTIVE" Attiude toward prospective & Nursing Mothers.

We don't object to Pregnancy or Nursing--we want these "conditions" SHELTERED & PROTECTED!

Simple, Basic, Mammalian Survival Instinct!

Doc!

21 posted on 03/01/2003 5:04:35 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: MeekMom
LThere's no shame in doing what God created us to do.

Such as conceiving? Do it in public and you may find it to be unpopular with local law enforcement.

22 posted on 03/01/2003 5:05:03 PM PST by templar
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To: Teacher317
When I'm having my chicken teriyaki at Red Lobster, I don't care what's going on in the next booth! ;)
23 posted on 03/01/2003 5:05:44 PM PST by exit82
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To: MadIvan
Well, I think breast-feeding is a normal and natural act.

So is taking a dump.

Both should be done with at least a minimum degree of discretion.

On the plus side, it's been quite a while since I've seen the word "hussy" in an article. I got quite a chuckle.

24 posted on 03/01/2003 5:11:31 PM PST by TontoKowalski
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To: Doc On The Bay
Most Civilized Western Citizens I have known have a "HYPER-PROTECTIVE" Attiude toward prospective & Nursing Mothers.

Then you and your acquaintances are exceptions, Doc!

The young ladies walking around our cities half naked are "prospective mothers." So are the "ho's" in all the pop music videos. So are the "actresses" stripping in the movies. So are the pregnant women being attacked by their boyfriends who don't want them to give birth. So are the millions going to the abortion clinics ... well, those last two are actually mothers already, just mothers of dead babies.

But you get my point. Our culture is all about sex, and nothing about babies. How else do you explain the non-replacement birthrates of Western Europe and the United States?

25 posted on 03/01/2003 5:15:25 PM PST by Tax-chick (I'm from Oklahoma, the center of the universe.)
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To: MadIvan
I don't see this as a breastfeeding issue.

I simply don't think that infants BELONG where Kirstie Marshall brought hers.

I don't think BABIES OR CHILDREN have any place in the US Congress, for instance, even if many of them are smarter and better-behaved than the elected representatives that DO belong there. They would be a distraction and a disruption. So I understand why they invoked the "stranger" rule in Australia.



26 posted on 03/01/2003 5:21:06 PM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Tax-chick
The "Operative Word" in my post is, "Civilized!"

Doc

27 posted on 03/01/2003 5:21:55 PM PST by Doc On The Bay
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To: MadIvan
Why should a nursing mother be penalised for other people’s uncomfortable thoughts?

Perhaps this statement can be gramatically condensed to "why should a nursing mother be 'penilised'?" Hey India, we have a saying on this side of the pond: don't cry over spilled milk.

28 posted on 03/01/2003 5:28:51 PM PST by XEHRpa
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To: hellinahandcart
I agree. Infants and children do NOT belong in the workplace.

What will it say to them when Mummy is reminiscing about breastfeeding while taking that important fax/conference call? "Gee, work is more important than I was." That's what.
29 posted on 03/01/2003 5:30:49 PM PST by annyokie
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To: Tax-chick
Now tell all those non-breastfeeding women to put some clothes on already!

Right on. Society has messed up our two genders, it's no wonder people are trying to invent alternates. A 'girlfriend' of not too long ago and I used to have arguments, because I tried to explain how women are dupedees (and dupers) about trying to be and dress "hot." The specific topic was fishnet pantyhose. What the hector would a woman want to bo around in brothelwear that for?

31 posted on 03/01/2003 5:58:51 PM PST by unspun (Freedom is not "just another word for nothin' left to lose," Kris.)
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To: unspun
Never, other than on Halloween is it acceptable to wear fishnets.
32 posted on 03/01/2003 6:25:02 PM PST by annyokie
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To: Teacher317
So you won't mind if my spouse and I 'go for it' in our front yard? How about in the booth next to you at Red Lobster? God created us to celebrate our union and be fruitful and multiply, after all.

And then if this coupling produces a baby, it can be breastfed in public. :D

Btw, I agree with you, but was just trying to make a joke :D

33 posted on 03/01/2003 6:30:41 PM PST by NYC GOP Chick (The LMDC can go to hell)
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To: annyokie
Never, other than on Halloween is it acceptable to wear fishnets.

I've seen some bass and northern pike though, that have looked quite nice in them.

(BTW, please pardon my hasty typing, prior post.)

34 posted on 03/01/2003 6:43:42 PM PST by unspun (Freedom is not "just another word for nothin' left to lose," Kris.)
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To: unspun
Crappie and bluegills look pretty sharp in them, too!
35 posted on 03/01/2003 6:45:56 PM PST by annyokie
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To: annyokie
I'll clean 'em if you dip em in flour and fry 'em up.
36 posted on 03/01/2003 6:57:47 PM PST by unspun (Freedom is not "just another word for nothin' left to lose," Kris.)
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To: unspun
Cornmeal and flour and you're on!
37 posted on 03/01/2003 7:06:01 PM PST by annyokie
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To: MadIvan
I can speak from experience: Women with one child breat feed in private. Women with four or more children do not.

Flame away!
38 posted on 03/01/2003 7:20:45 PM PST by AdA$tra (All we are saying ....is give war a chance)
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To: annyokie
The frying of fresh caught fish...
...music that hath charms to soothe the savage breast.

(so to speak)
39 posted on 03/01/2003 7:27:23 PM PST by unspun (The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
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To: AdA$tra
I know I'm the 7th child in my family and I was given a bottle.
40 posted on 03/01/2003 7:28:44 PM PST by unspun (The most terrorized place in America is a mother's womb.)
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