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Antiwar protesters trash 9/11 memorial!(blood pressure riser)
Wittier Dlily news ^ | 3-11-03 | OXENinFLA

Posted on 03/11/2003 3:57:59 AM PST by OXENinFLA

LA HABRA -- Antiwar protesters burned and ripped up flags, flowers and patriotic signs at a Sept. 11 memorial that residents erected on a fence along Whittier Boulevard days after the terrorist attacks in 2001 and have maintained ever since.

However, although officers witnessed the vandalism Saturday afternoon, police did not arrest three people seen damaging the display because they were "exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday.

"For this to be vandalism, there had to be an ill-will intent,' he said.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; 911memorial; antiamerican; antiamericancommies; antibush; antiwarprotest; billofrights; california; commies; communists; florida; freespeech; lahabra; marxists; memorialdesecration; notapeacemovement; protestors; redmenace; riot; socialists; theredmenace; usefulidiots; vandalism
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To: Dark Templar
"You are so full of crap it's flowing our of your mouth." How so, your seem to agree with me mostly?

So what do you think I have been wrong about? Sounds like you parroted most every single thing I said. The difference between a city like La Habra and other cities, is that there are major pockets if illegals living there as a community. "Guata La Habra" as another poster pointed out. There cities with more illegals like Santa Ana, I agree with you.

I am not surprised that La Habra goes conservative. With all the illegals there, it is still illegal for them to vote for their hand-outs, they at least need some form of acceptable phony ID and even CA isn't quite that far gone yet in letting non-citizens to vote. YET! So it makes sense the rest there are conservative if for no other reason because they have so may illegals.

PS, not illegals, but the local elementary school I believe started that memorial. It is very nice. I am glad it is mostly back up already.
381 posted on 03/11/2003 10:54:20 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: All
For those in the Los Angeles area, they are doing going to do a story on this on ABC in a few minutes.
382 posted on 03/11/2003 10:58:33 PM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: Dark Templar
What does that prove? Here's a brainstorm for you, illegals can't legally vote in CA and perhaps the rest of the population is conservative, especially since they have so many illegals around. Not unheard of.

Bob Dornan in his district was a highly hispanic conservative area that he won until they had illegals voting and tampering to turn that area Democrat by dubious means.

That is about 11 miles from you by the way.
I hope that never happens to La Habra.
383 posted on 03/11/2003 10:59:05 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dark Templar
Some of these folks don't realize how far to the right some of our Mexican American citizens are. Some have been here many generations, people that I would trust to watch my back, a proud people, some of the same people that helped contribute to this, now famous memorial.

But I would disagree with your comment about the Free Republic, as this is actually a very credible source, with reporters, or posters if you will, all over this great country. Instead of a radio show where you listen, you get the real, man on the street comments here. Not all are top shelf comments, but most are credible, and from real Americans that care.

384 posted on 03/11/2003 10:59:54 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I agree, our "CITIZENS" can be and often are as offended by illegals as well. BRAVO! and good night.
385 posted on 03/11/2003 11:03:03 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: StayoutdaBushesWay
Thanks and good night.
386 posted on 03/11/2003 11:03:53 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
By the way, you are right there, put some digital pictures up of the memorial re-built and bring some good cheer to this thread. G'night again.
387 posted on 03/11/2003 11:04:47 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Dark Templar
Dark Templar

Your right about La Habra the thing is if you don’t know the area you get different impressions

The little downtown area on Lambert has gone to hell

But up on Imperial and Beach there building million dollar homes and the new West Hills golf course and shopping complex (…Big bucks)

I live in the next to La Habra in La Mirada

388 posted on 03/11/2003 11:12:05 PM PST by tophat9000
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To: tophat9000
Just saw the ABC story (no the guy in blue satin jacket was not me)I'm not a camera kind of guy so try to stay out the shot (but I stumble to Fox’s shot big time) I'm easy to spot I so right wing I have no left arm below the elbow ;>

389 posted on 03/11/2003 11:27:23 PM PST by tophat9000
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To: OXENinFLA; mtngrl@vrwc; All
I am so sick to death of this nonsense..

To the Liberals I say this:

Go ahead and protest, if it makes you feel worthy..
Put up your stupid "flags" with pictures of the Earth, your stupid dog, dolphins, or whatever makes you feel important, ineffectual people often do ineffectual things..go for it.

Just be careful with MY flag, alright?
While you are spewing this nonsense, the world is watching..you must try and understand what kind of message you are sending, they rejoice in our dissention, and you give them a green light to attack us, you are utter fools..and as unfair as it is, we must protect you from your own foolishness.

Islamic fanatics DO NOT LOVE YOU, conservative or liberal, surely the "human shields" story told you that, oh, and what happened when it got too dangerous? They turned tail and ran, that's what. These people do not care who you are, they would kill you because of your nationality alone, much less hawk or dove.

Would you want your military to do the same? Just who exactly do you think fights now, and has fought for you,all this time? Why are you not dragged from your bed in the middle of the night for questioning?

Nearly 3,000 people died at the Islamic fanatics hands, have you forgotten?
My God, they jumped to their deaths, some of them, the rest burned to death..or were crushed between floors..don't even TRY to tell me we asked for it, for you will never justify it to me.

You also can NEVER justify trashing a place that honors the sorrow of Sept. 11th, and the people that died there..your own people, your shame knows no bounds or consequence, save this..you give comfort to the people who did this..sleep well.

You live in the greatest representative of freedom and justice the world has ever known, AND WELL YOU KNOW IT!
You protest the very things that give you the right to do so.

It is the ultimate in hypocrisy, and you should be ashamed and perhaps afraid..for you aid and comfort the enemy, by your very actions, and aren't you just so glad?

Isn't this what you wanted, after all?

I am beyond disgust for liberals of this ilk..

Ms B.


390 posted on 03/11/2003 11:57:40 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Excellent post. I wouldn't be surprised if a civil war begins in California, within the next 12 to 18 months.
391 posted on 03/12/2003 12:17:23 AM PST by tuna_battle_slight_return
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To: RonDog; tophat9000; All
Thanks for the updates....
392 posted on 03/12/2003 2:48:54 AM PST by OXENinFLA
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
Amen!
393 posted on 03/12/2003 3:42:58 AM PST by StayoutdaBushesWay
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To: RedWing9
..."exercising the same freedom of speech that the people who put up the flags were,' La Habra Police Capt. John Rees said Monday."

OMFG BUMP! This guy is a cop???? Sir, with all due respect, your an effing idiot. Free Speech in no way gives you a right to vandalize.

I live a couple of miles away from the memorial and pass it almost daily. (It was a beautiful work of art.) What's even more galling is that the La Habra cops are well-known for being real hard-noses around here. They usually tag you for even the tiniest violation.

Obviously they've been attacked by the PC bug. Truly disgusting.

394 posted on 03/12/2003 4:02:34 AM PST by truthkeeper
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To: Dark Templar
For God's sake, next thing you know FR will claim credit for finding a cure to cancer...

FR can claim credit for lots of good things that happen in our communities.....and that is ALL I'm saying. You are ridiculous, DT, to not think that our actions do not have an effect; as pertains to the instant case, the PD received calls from FReepers as far away as Germany; e-mails were sent by multiple individuals, multiple times, to Hannity, O'Reilly, CNN, the PD, to name a few. Additionally, calls were placed to the writer of this article to confirm/clarify what was said, and this, again, resulted in further communications, via e-mails, to other individuals/friends/organizations.

Statistics show that for each complaint received, one complaint represents 100 people who don't take the time or make the effort to write or call. FR has, at the very least, hundreds of individuals who actively participate in rallies/e-mail writing & forwarding/telephone calling.

Because WE ARE MAKING A DIFFERENCE, and we know it, that does not = claiming to find a cure for cancer. And we aren't the only ones who know this; FR, and many of its members, has received more and more positive publicity and recognition, as a force to be reckoned with.

And, yes, there is a cancer which has infected and permeated American society: it's called liberal socialism. And FReepers are helping get rid of that......sure is better to focus on the facts than listen to people like you deride our good works and ridicule the simple delight and satisfaction we take in knowing the good we are doing.

395 posted on 03/12/2003 4:24:45 AM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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To: Smogger
Ooops.. Don't call the City of Whittier to complain as the incident took place in the adjacent city of La Habra. It figures because to be honest Whittier is an older conservative suburb with bucks. It really didn't strike me as something that would take place there

Thanks for saying that. I'm from Whittier. I'd like to see these morons try that here, they'd get their a***s beat.

396 posted on 03/12/2003 4:36:44 AM PST by truthkeeper
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To: OXENinFLA; RonDog; Palladin; tophat9000; Joe Hadenuf; veronica; Interesting Times; A CA Guy; ...
UPDATE:

Press-Telegram.com

Vandals hit memorial

Angry residents prompt police to inspect defacing of 9/11 tribute
By Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell

Staff writer LA HABRA At the center of an angry public opinion storm, La Habra police on Tuesday said they are conducting a criminal investigation into weekend vandalism at a 9/11 memorial fence.

Police said as soon as the probe is completed they will take their evidence to the Orange County District Attorney to determine if a complaint will be issued.

Early after the vandalism, residents near the memorial accused the Police Department of not taking adequate action when they first spotted people altering patriotic signs on the fence Saturday afternoon. The police reportedly determined at first that the sign alteration was more free expression than a case of vandalism, so they went away.

However, they said the activity later escalated into flag burning and replacing patriotic signs on the fence with antiwar slogans, which did qualify as acts of vandalism.

On Tuesday, Police Chief Dennis Kies stood behind the department's handling of the case.

"We did not observe anybody tearing flags or burning flags,' he said. "The first call we got on this was at 3 p.m Saturday. There were these cups stuck in the fence that spelled out something like 'We Love The USA,' and a woman was rearranging them to read something like 'No War.' She was not burning or tearing up anything at that time.'

Since the woman was not destroying anything, officers left without making an arrest or writing a police report.

Kies said his officers were called to the scene at Whittier Boulevard and Macy Street again at 5 p.m., Saturday and again at 3 p.m. on Sunday.

Officers found damage to the display on both occasions but found no one but Tracey Chandler, who maintains the patriotic fence, and her friends near the location.

"On vandalism, a misdemeanor offense, we can't arrest anyone unless it happens in front of us,' Kies said.

Chandler, who started maintaining the memorial soon after it was initiated by neighbors the night of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, believes the same people who were at the fence earlier in the day came back later that night and burned the flags.

Jeff Collison, owner of The RV Center in La Habra, who has allowed Chandler and other residents to fill his fence with patriotic symbols, said he and Chandler plan to go to the police station today to file charges.

David Bisset of Whittier, who has contributed to the memorial since the evening of 9/11, said he will continue to do so, as another Whittier resident, Dusty Rhodes, came by with a pile of flags. "I was in the military myself for seven years, so for someone to burn my flag, well that burns my butt,' said Rhodes.

Chandler, who started pinning new 9/11 tribute posters made by her two children to the fence on Tuesday, is determined to rebuild the memorial. "It will be done by the end of the week, bigger and better than it ever was,' she said.


397 posted on 03/12/2003 4:45:01 AM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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To: tophat9000; sauropod; Miss Marple
After the interview, people were still standing around talking when this really nutty liberal women wearing pink chiffon shows up and goes up to Tracy and tells her “I guess you didn’t like my sign I glued on yours”

Then nutty liberal women in pink started arguing with the crowd spouting your typical liberal stuff in an incoherent manner “ America’s all about greed., “all you people just want to do stab people with your gun”(Her quote) and how sad we were and she had the right to free speech when put her anti war poster over our stuff

Um...possible Code Pink alert? The woman admits it on TV? Trying to get arrested on purpose?

Seriously. I smell a big rat here. I have just read that a 9/11 memorial was destroyed here in NYC too. It happened yesterday, the eighteen-month anniversary of 9/11. If this is a coincidence, it's too weird.

398 posted on 03/12/2003 4:45:54 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: OXENinFLA; RonDog; Palladin; tophat9000; Joe Hadenuf; veronica; Interesting Times; A CA Guy; ...
UPDATE (2):

OC Register.com

9-11 memorial trashed by vandals is restored

By CAROLINE PRADO
The Orange County Register

A TRIBUTE: Suzy Johnson and her twin children – Alec, left, and Lindsay, both 10 – put a new sign on the fence as part of a 9-11 memorial at Macy Street and Whittier Boulevard in La Habra.

LA HABRA – A steady stream of angry residents gathered Tuesday at a Sept. 11 memorial trashed by vandals over the weekend, replacing burned flags and criticizing police for failing to prevent what they believe is a war protest gone too far.

Visitors posted more than 130 flags on a chain-link fence to replace 87 burned Sunday and laid 11 flags where stepping stones decorated by children had been smashed.

They lingered into the evening at the Macy Street and Whittier Boulevard site as passing cars honked horns.

"I have nothing but contempt for people who desecrate a tribute to the people who died," said Dan Brasher, a La Habra resident who brought a flag. "It was a comfort driving by and seeing this symbol here and being able to take pride in our country," resident Roberta Bryant said.

At about 8 p.m., some 25 visitors surrounded a teenage girl who showed up to claim responsibility for burning two flags. They argued until police showed up to question her.

Witnesses say the flag burning occurred about 1:20 a.m. Sunday. It followed problems that brought police to the memorial twice Saturday. At 3 p.m. Saturday, officers interrupted a group of anti- war demonstrators who were rearranging red, white and blue cups - which initially spelled out "Support our troops" in the fence - into an anti-war statement.

The protesters left on their own. Police did not take down their names, saying they viewed the initial incident as a matter of free speech. About 5 p.m. Saturday, police returned when the memorial's caretaker, Whittier resident Tracey Chandler, reported that seven flags had been ripped down....

[SNIP]


399 posted on 03/12/2003 4:50:08 AM PST by nicmarlo (** UNDER GOD **)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I know that area intimately and have friends right down the road from that area. Ever hear of Friendly hills? Or La Habra heights? There are 5 million dollar homes in that immediate area! East Whittir which borders La Habra has homes that run from 320,000 and up. You are obviously thinking about downtown La Habra or somewhere else. Even homes in that area run in the 250,000 range. A poor area it aint....LOL..

I know, I was laughing too. (I used to live right around the corner from the memorial a few years ago.)

400 posted on 03/12/2003 4:51:28 AM PST by truthkeeper
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