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Police probe flag burning in La Habra - Memorial vandals sought(follow-up article)
Whittier Daily News ^ | 3/12/03 | Debbie Pfeiffer

Posted on 03/12/2003 11:16:00 AM PST by amused

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To: DoughtyOne
Bump

21 posted on 03/12/2003 12:34:40 PM PST by photogirl (bring it on!!)
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To: amused
anti-war protesters tear gassed by police

as the anti-war protesters punch horses...

22 posted on 03/12/2003 12:42:20 PM PST by eyespysomething (Stop crying or I'll give you something to cry about)
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To: DoughtyOne
It's my understanding she's the one who helped other set fires destroying flags and other materials,

Then she is guilty of arson and should be locked up!

23 posted on 03/12/2003 12:53:46 PM PST by Species8472
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To: amused
Here is the whole article for archival.

Police probe flag burning in La Habra
Memorial vandals sought

By Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell, Staff Writer

LA HABRA -- At the center of an angry public opinion storm, La Habra police on Tuesday said they are conducting a criminal investigation into weekend vandalism at a patriotic Sept. 11 memorial fence at Whittier Boulevard and Macy Street.

Police said as soon as the probe is completed they will take their evidence to the Orange County District Attorney to determine if a complaint will be issued.

Early after the vandalism, local residents near the memorial accused the Police Department of not taking adequate action when they first spotted people altering patriotic signs on the fence Saturday afternoon. The police reportedly determined at first that the sign alteration was more free expression than a case of vandalism, so they left the area.

 

Jeff Collison, left, and Bill Irizarry of La Habra raise a flag at the corner of Whittier Boulevard and Macy Street in La Habra. (Staff Photo by Bernardo Alps)
However, they said the activity later escalated into flag burning and replacing patriotic signs on the fence with antiwar slogans, which did qualify as acts of vandalism.

On Tuesday, La Habra police Chief Dennis Kies stood behind the department's handling of the case.

"We did not observe anybody tearing flags or burning flags,' he said. "The first call we got on this was at 3 p.m Saturday. There were these cups stuck in the fence that spelled out something like 'We Love The USA,' and a woman was rearranging them to read something like 'No War.' She was not burning or tearing up anything at that time.'

Since the woman was not destroying anything, officers left without making an arrest or writing a police report.

Kies said his officers were called to the scene again at 5 p.m. Saturday and again at 3 p.m. Sunday.

Officers found damage to the display on both occasions but found no one but Tracey Chandler , who maintains the patriotic fence, and her friends near the location.

"On vandalism, a misdemeanor offense, we can't arrest anyone unless it happens in front of us,' Kies said.

Chandler, who started maintaining the memorial soon after it was initiated by neighbors the night of the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks, believes the same people who were at the fence earlier in the day came back later that night and burned the flags.

Jeff Collison, owner of The RV Center in La Habra, w ho has allowed Chandler and other residents to fill his fence with patriotic symbols, said he and Chandler plan to go to the police station today to file charges.

Collison said he answered at least 50 calls from residents and members of the press Tuesday.

"But I'm going to go down there (to the police station), because this is an act of vandalism on my private property,' he said.

As Collison answered calls in his office across the street, residents some angry and some crying added new flags and patriotic posters to the fence.

David Bisset of Whittier, who has contributed to the memorial since the evening of Sept. 11, 2001, said he will continue to do so as another Whittier resident, Dusty Rhodes, came by with a pile of flags.

"I was in the military myself for seven years, so for someone to burn my flag, well that burns my butt,' said Rhodes.

Some residents were overcome by emotions as they walked up to the fence.

"I have been bringing family from out of town by the memorial, and I'm very mad and upset about this,' said Barbara Eastman of La Habra Heights as she cried and handed $20 to Bisset for a new flag.

Chandler, who began pinning new Sept. 11 tribute posters made by her two children to the fence Tuesday, is determined to rebuild the memorial.

"It will be done by the end of the week, bigger and better than it ever was,' she said.

Debbie Pfeiffer Trunnell can be reached at (562) 698-0955, Ext. 3028, or by e-mail at debbie.pfeiffer@sgvn.com .

24 posted on 03/12/2003 12:58:57 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: amused
it is apparently legal to destroy the property that is not your own when you disagree with the beliefs expressed

Well, if that's the case, where's Bill Klintoon? I'm gonna hit him in his mouf'.

25 posted on 03/12/2003 1:22:09 PM PST by hoosierskypilot
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"...bigger and better than it ever was." The true spirit of America is alive and well in Ms. Chandler and the rest of the fine folks in this community!
26 posted on 03/12/2003 2:33:34 PM PST by maxwellp (God Bless President Bush and God Bless Our Military)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
"They said the owners of the property that was being torn apart, would have to complain, before they acted."

If they said that, then they are fools. If that was someone's car being vandalized, would they wait to do something until the owner filed a complaint? Their logic is BS. It's more than likely the police probably agreed with the perps and that is the reason they did nothing. If anything, these anti-war morons were littering, but of course they ignored that too. This had nothing to do with waiting for the property owner's complaint, and everything to do with the police looking the other way. If I'm not mistaken, they are required by law to act when they see the law being violated, and destroying decorations/memorial items on a person's private property is definitely vandalism and is a violation of the law. And as I mentioned before...littering.

27 posted on 03/12/2003 2:51:01 PM PST by mass55th
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To: mass55th
I am just relaying what I heard Rush Limbaugh say on his program. It is a shame that those in law-enforcement do not protect, nor do they profess to be patriots.
28 posted on 03/12/2003 2:52:59 PM PST by Pan_Yans Wife (Lurking since 2000.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
"There were these cups stuck in the fence that spelled out something like 'We Love The USA,' and a woman was rearranging them to read something like 'No War.' She was not burning or tearing up anything at that time."

What a crock. These cops were familiar with this memorial. If they weren't, then they weren't being observant on their beat. When they saw someone altering the signs (cups) and changing the wording on the memorial (especially to an anti-war theme), they should have approached and asked the woman what she was doing and if she was the owner of the property. They were horribly lax, and should be disciplined for failing to perform their jobs and uphold the laws.

29 posted on 03/12/2003 2:57:24 PM PST by mass55th
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To: amused
Gee, how... timely of them.
30 posted on 03/12/2003 3:12:43 PM PST by Darksheare (<===The modern day French all have grandfathers that said "Frauleine" to their grandmothers.)
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To: mewzilla
The Police consider vandalism- "SIGN ALTERATION"
31 posted on 03/12/2003 3:14:04 PM PST by RIGHT IN SEATTLE (by taking)
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To: IYAS9YAS
And since they delibrately burned the flags it also was arson but I wouldn't count on the cop's or the local prosecuter to do anything but the absolute minimum & not even that if they can get away with doing nothing.
32 posted on 03/12/2003 6:33:31 PM PST by Nebr FAL owner (.308 "reach out and thump someone " & .50 cal Browning "reach out & CRUSH someone")
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To: amused
Let me be the first to say I generally don't like prosecuting anybody for "hate crimes" since that
normally means a thought crime committed against a group that predominately votes pro Rat.
However in this case it would serve as an example to the left that bad laws can nail them too.
Prosecute them for vandalism and arson and hate crimes. Agree to drop the hate crime charge if the
left agrees to stop trying to get such laws passed.
33 posted on 03/12/2003 8:03:11 PM PST by Nateman
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To: amused
OH no... I'm sure if anyone threw a tomato at her, it would have been assault and the perp would have been arrested immediately.

34 posted on 03/12/2003 9:43:53 PM PST by LaraCroft ('Bout time)
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To: mass55th
The age-old question: who's policing the police?
35 posted on 03/13/2003 8:12:00 PM PST by henderson field
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