Beef Vs. Bagels: Food Companies Take on Dr. Atkins

Reuters Science via Yahoo ^ | 3-16-03 | Carey Gillam

[Rytwyng]

Whatever works. But I like milk and cereal and fruit....they are healthy, wholesome food! I can't be convinced otherwise

If they made you fat (despite intense exercise), and if cutting back on them caused you to lose weight, I guarantee that you'd be convinced otherwise.

But if you're not carb-sensitive, you don't have to worry about it.

[Rytwyng]

Amazing. Thanks!

[TheFilter]

No, it probably isn't for everyone. I know plenty of people who are vegetarian and keep their weight down, or who eat plenty of carbs and have no problem. Atkins has worked best for me, though.

Strangely, when I work out "hard core" I have to add in more carbs. I just crave them after I run, etc, so I do indulge in a sandwich now and then. (Okay, a doughnut!)

[Cooter]

Eggs and s/b/s? Is prepackaged? Sounds great.

I buy frozen scrambled egg patties and sausage patties from WalMart. They are fully cooked and can be heated in the microwave. Add two slices of Atkins bread and some cheese and you've got a quick low-carb Egg McMuffin.

[Lee'sGhost]

Cool. Thanks.

[tescoveee]

Another Atkins fan here. 30 lbs in 4 months or so, and I'm happy at my current weight, though i have to build more muscle. For me, what works is McDonalds without the bun, George Foreman'ed turkey burgers with no-sugar salsa, lots of water, and lots of Atkins Advantage bars. For some reason, this diet makes me very thirsty and forces me to drink lots of water, which never happenned when I was a sugar fiend. This is a good thing, of course. Also, don't eat anything big after 8pm. My LDL (bad) cholesterol has stayed the same buy my HDL (good) cholesterol has shown a big improvement. I'm on Lipitor anyway so it would have been a miracle to get my LDLs any lower.

[Porterville]

Don't be a pig, don't get fat. Be a pig, get fat. Eat a tub icecream, and then a steak, get fat. Eat a little icecream no beef, don't get fat.

Moral: Don't be a pig; all these quacks are fools. Eat what you want and get off your butt.

[mlo]

Produce the single medical study that even remotely validates this statement.

Produce one that validates the Atkins diet.

[Pharmboy]

J Pediatr 2003 Mar;142(3):253-8 Related Articles, Links


Effects of a low-carbohydrate diet on weight loss and cardiovascular risk factor in overweight adolescents.

Sondike SB, Copperman N, Jacobson MS.

Division of Adolescent Medicine, Schneider Children's Hospital, New Hyde Park, New York.

OBJECTIVES: To compare the effects of a low-carbohydrate (LC) diet with those of a low-fat (LF) diet on weight loss and serum lipids in overweight adolescents. DESIGN: A randomized, controlled 12-week trial. SETTING: Atherosclerosis prevention referral center. METHODS: Random, nonblinded assignment of participants referred for weight management. The study group (LC) (n = 16) was instructed to consume <20 g of carbohydrate per day for 2 weeks, then <40 g/day for 10 weeks, and to eat LC foods according to hunger. The control group (LF) (n = 14) was instructed to consume <30% of energy from fat. Diet composition and weight were monitored and recorded every 2 weeks. Serum lipid profiles were obtained at the start of the study and after 12 weeks. RESULTS: The LC group lost more weight (mean, 9.9 +/- 9.3 kg vs 4.1 +/- 4.9 kg, P <.05) and had improvement in non-HDL cholesterol levels (P <.05). There was improvement in LDL cholesterol levels (P <.05) in the LF group but not in the LC group. There were no adverse effects on the lipid profiles of participants in either group. CONCLUSIONS: The LC diet appears to be an effective method for short-term weight loss in overweight adolescents and does not harm the lipid profile.

[Rytwyng]

. Eat what you want and get off your butt.

As I noted a few posts ago, I was a serious runner, yet as I got older, I got fatter and fatter anyway. Low carb was the only thing that put a stop to it. Exercise by itself simply didn't work.

[Republic]

And the DaVinci syrups-0 carbs, made with Splenda, are beyond BELIEF!

Have been on Atkins and have had all round rejuvenation-of EVERYTHING.

In his book-Dr Atkins speaks of the lobbyists who helped to create the old once rock solid food pyramid....and GUESS who those lobbyists were representing? Oh yeah---General Mills, Etc. The cereal makers, the bread bakers, etc.

Dr Atkin's has an entirely different idea of what the major food groups should look like---and GUESS WHAT? His idea does not promote overweight people laden with foods that convert to sugar (or come as refined sugar). Bummer for the flour and sugar industries....tough luck.

Not to mention Dr Atkins diet can have a major impact on depressed people. Lifting at least the pysiological components that either contribute to depression or cause it.

[Porterville]

Gotta eat breakfast; try not to eat after 6:00 PM and take up a martial art or boxing regime 2-3 times a week; It will make you firm and in the best shape of your life. It is addictive too so it is easy to do after the second week. Swear to God, you can eat whatever you want especially if you compliment it with a good jog or two every week. Talking 5-6 hours of exercise a week.

[SauronOfMordor]

It's possible that your son craves carbs as a way to get his blood sugar up. Giving him eggs for breakfast is a good experiment. With mine, we try making sure she has some meat of some sort for breakfast. If he likes bacon or ham, you might try that on the side. If it produces an improvement, there's nothing written in stone that says you HAVE to serve "breakfasty" stuff in the morning, as opposed to quickly nuking some "lunch-style" stuff

[Rytwyng]

Swear to God, you can eat whatever you want especially if you compliment it with a good jog or two every week. Talking 5-6 hours of exercise a week.

Been there, done that. I worked harder at the physical fitness thing than anyone else I know. Intense running (distance and intervals), brutal weight workouts heavy on the power stuff (squats, deadlift, full-body stuff), etc. My doctor told me, I had the cardiovascular system and lung capacity of an Olympic athlete - and he had actually treated them in his practice. Guess what? I still got fat.

Worse yet -- even if all that exercise had worked, back then, I can't do it any more due to a lifetime accumulation of injuries. Running twice a week is all I can handle now, without injury flareups. Thank God, lowcarb DOES work, even with my forcibly reduced exercise schedule.

[Zipporah]

In theory ..you are right.. I suggest you read the New York Times article ..."Bid Fat Lie".. I may be wrong but the latest science says otherwise.

[angkor]

Produce one that validates the Atkins diet.

Why?

One friend lost 110 pounds on Atkins, another 80 pounds.

Since wieght loss is the sole "validation" of a diet, I can't see that anything else is required.

[24Karet]

Last night, NFP and I tried your recipe with the unsweetened cocoa, splenda and cool whip. I decided to add some walnuts. It's so rich that you can't eat that much. It was very good, like Chocolate Mousse, with out an extreme amount of carbs. It satisfied my sweet tooth. Thanks for the suggestion. There's only so much sugar-free jello on can bear to eat.