Barbecue's fatty fumes add to haze - Rice research shows fine particles matter

Houston Chronicle ^ | March 17, 2003 | By DINA CAPPIELLO

[KantianBurke]

Screw you guys! I'm goin home!

[OPS4]

Sound lik a Muslim plot to have everyone cooking non meat product in clay pots.

Ops LOL God Bless America!

[weegee]

What's this got to do with the war?

This is series (sic). It doesn't involve gasoline, the Smart girl or the Dixie Chicks.

This article is all smoke and mirrors. The smoke that the report seems to focus on (headline notwithstanding) are commercial places like Burger King. Back in the 1990s, there was the same stink raised about the odors that left bakeries (like Sunbeam bread) and donut stands.

When scientists focus on these contributions to the Gulf Coast's pollution problem and ignore the petroleum industry, cattle industry, repaving industry (melted tar, road dust, construction equipment, etc), trucking industry, port shipping industry, biological decay (vegetation, crops, forests), etc. it shows that they'd rather not address issues.

This same kind of misdirection got the EPA to lower our speed limits (the legislature didn't do it) from 70MPH to 55MPH (even though they knew that it wouldn't significantly change pollution levels).

[weegee]

Careful now, some scientist is liable to blame the extinction of the dinosaurs on apes cooking meat over open flames.

[weegee]

Be that as it may, are cooking fumes in the Kyoto Treaty?

The Kyoto Treaty directs us all to eat tofu and raw fish. No cooking fumes!

[Roughneck]

Gee,

I wonder how long it will be before some over-zealous vegetarian or some other "save the widdle children" health nut, envioronmentalist,socialist daddy presses charges againts the makers of BBQ sause and grills?

[Texan5]

I think that shredded beef brisket served in some barbecue places sucks-maybe it would be better if it wasn't shredded, but it isn't what I call barbecue. I much prefer to cook a pork roast or rack of pork ribs with my very own homemade sauce on the grill. Thick pork chops are great, too.

[Texan5]

If it contributes to the extinction of health and environmental fruitcakes, I will grill the meat course for every meal outdoors for the rest of my life, rain or shine.

[oyez]

That's right, the apes cooked dinosaurs over open flames untill they were all gone.

[swarthyguy]

Laughing long and loud along with you, too.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

I'm not so sure about that. When Hayden Fry turned around the University of Iowa football program, us Hawkeyes were sworn in as honorary Texans, complete with Texas BBQ. In response to this, Iowans sent Texans beef you could actually eat, which improved BBQ in Texas and everywhere else.

[weegee]

Vegetarians would like to stamp out barbecue forever. Ever hear from vegans who succumb to eating meat "because it just tastes/smells so good"? They admit that there is no good equivalent substitute (and if their foods were so good, they wouldn't need to immitate ours with processed foods anyway).

[weegee]

I grasped your point in the original post, that's why I said, "this is series".

It's good to have some other threads on FR at times (all enemies of freedom are not overseas).

Hold muh lighter fluid BUMP!

[putupon]

That was cold.

[Eric in the Ozarks]

its the difference between grass fed and corn fed beef.

[boris]

They've been wanting to outlaw barbecues and lawnmowers (the gas-powered kind) in Los Angeles for years.

[weegee]

Houston announced a proposal to outlaw lawn mowing before noon (great, mow your yard in the hot afternoon sun).

It sounds like it was mostly designed to be enforced against lawn care companies.

Meanwhile our city's traffic lights are often 180 degrees out of phase (driving the limit from one light to the next gets you there as the light changes to red). Buses and semi-trucks are allowed to idle here too (not so in NYC).

They want to push new law enforcement on the civilians rather than actually address the sources of pollution. When Houston does dip down below "acceptable" air standards (dipping down for 60 minutes in one day counts as a full day) it can be seen to be coming from the petrochemical industry in time readings of the pollution.

This whole "Houston has bad air" thing came up as a political issue because George W. Bush was a Texas Governor running for President. We lost our status of worst air to LA again. The standards were changed and I suspect that they were changed so that Houston would get that distinction in a presidental election year.

Mayor Leepy Period Brown refused to counter the Rat charges about Houston's air until after the 2000 election. Now Houston faces a PR nightmare.

Houston's bad at times but the landscape is flat and we are at sea level. Things blow over (as they do at Galveston with that Gulf wind).

When the West Coast gets heavy forest fires, we can get some smokey skies in Houston. We all feel the effects of other regions air.

[Flyer]

They don't make BBQ in Texas

In Texas BBQ isn't a noun, it is a verb. We barbeque beef, pork, fish and fowl. Heck, about the only thing that never sees the grill is cream corn. And "To Barbeque" is more than just the cooking. It is the beer and camaraderie, the kids and the dog frolicking in the yard, sharing a computer to check the latest posts on FR. . .

[Eaker]

Ya'll do realize that if we let the eco-nazis get away with banning BBQ that sex is next on the list!!!

Stay safe; stay armed, stay smokey,