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Democrats Need to Fully Support the Bush Administration in WARNING Turkey and the Kurds!
3-24-03
| Golden Gate
Posted on 03/24/2003 5:21:38 AM PST by Golden Gate
While our first concern is to be successful in the war against the Iraqi troops, we also have a potential problem of hostilites breaking out between Turkey and the Kurds. There are suggestions that if this were to occur, then there are several other groups with rivalries that could erupt into conflict, and the entire country of Iraq could explode into civil war.
The Bush Administration has issued its warnings to Turkey about sending troops into northern Iraq. There needs to be unified support from Democrats to fully support Pres. Bush in keeping Turkey, the Kurds, and the other groups in line, while the Coalition Forces focus on defeating Dictator Hussein and the Iraqi army.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; democrats; iraq; kurds; turkey; warlist
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To: aristotleman
The EU is now against all who support the US. You'll see how the EU will make it difficult for the prospective countries to join, if they expressed support for this war.
Yes, obviously you're right.
As "I" said a while back, "You're either for us or against us".
New Europe is for us, Britain and Australia are for us, Spain and Italy and the non-Weasels of Old Europe are for us, Japan and South Korea are for us, the more progressive and richest Arab oil countries are for us. These all happen to be the strongest and most dynamic populations and economies in the world in coming decades. They are the future. Together, they are the elements of global economic and technological dominance and, therefore, military dominance.
Turkey is against us, Weasel Europe is against us, Russia and China are against us, Canada (sadly) and Mexico are against us, the really awful Arab countries are against us. These are the decaying countries (except China), those who will not reform their economies and/or political systems, the countries who cannot easily adapt to change, the countries who (except for China) are suffering sever population decline. These countries are, generally, the past. You can add to their numbers such lovely spots as North Korea, Sudan, the hellholes of Africa and much of Central/South America.
The rest of the world is pretty much on the sidelines so they can go off and whine at each other at the Non-Aligned Nations conferences or start some puny war to keep themselves entertained.
I really do grow weary of explaining these elementary facts. Your remarks are so, well, twentieth-century. It's a new century and it will be an American century. And Iraq is only the first stop in the War On _______.
Get with the program.
To: Golden Gate
With Jimmuh Cartuh and Clinton globe hopping to feed anti American poison what makes anyone thing the Dems will support this country in any way.
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posted on
03/24/2003 12:01:26 PM PST
by
dalebert
To: Mortimer Snavely
No one is going to tolerate the creation of a Kurdistan. We'll do to them what we're doing to Turkey now but with even less effort. We won't even have to do more than lift the phone and make a few phone calls, one to Turkey, one to Iran, one to the new central government of Iraq.
THERE WILL BE NO KURDISTAN!
As far as Iran, we must engage with them in order to utilize the British intel and diplomatic assets and to exploit the restless element among Iranian young people to throw off the dead hand of the mullahs. The result will be a return to something like a parliamentary demoncracy. Perhaps a little better situation than what Turkey currently has. At any rate, it couldn't be worse. And we have to do something about their nuke program no matter what. That cannot be tolerated in the oil patch except for Israel's arsenal.
To: George W. Bush
I don't disagree with your analysis of the current political situation in the world, except for the Turkey part.
To: aristotleman
If it's any consolation, I expect we'll pick up Turkey and Canada and Mexico in our wake. But it would be far better if they had seen the common interest. What we need in this new century are allies that step up to the challenge. Like Britain and New Europe. Hell, like even Spain and Italy did. Even some of the normally hostile Arab states have treated us better than has Turkey and some other regularly allied countries.
I've said it all along. It's a shame that Turkey has done these things. For them, for us.
To: commish; Tamsey; EternalVigilance; My2Cents; Thinkin' Gal; Registered; Militiaman7; FloridaBoy; ...
Evening Invite to Visit & Please Comment. Later, I plan to do a summary of the posts.
To: Golden Gate
Democrats Need to Fully Support the Bush Administration in WARNING Turkey and the Kurds!Ha, that's a funny one. The un-American democrats will support the Bush Administration ONLY if it helps their 2004 election. They don't give a damn about what's right and wrong. Only the next election. The return to power..........
To: Golden Gate
I think we should be honest with ourselves and accept that the Democrat party and their stalwarts give their allegiance to transnational 'progressive' socialism and not to the United States. Asking for their support is like Charlie Brown asking Lucy to hold the football for him.
To: Enemy Of The State
Trying to maintain the territorial integrity of Iraq - THAT sounds good!
But, ?? = ... Turkey and Iraq are merely trying to decide which part of the pie they are going to divide up among themselves.
?? Oh really? That's been decided, or will be?
To: Golden Gate
I guess my thoughts on your main theme here are that it is fruitless to expect anything constructive or good out of the Democratic Party.
Certainly we may pick up partial support at times from individual Dems who are intelligent enough to realize that their Party has gone very far down the path of irrelevency; but as a group, they can't be trusted or relied upon a bit.
Fuh-git-about-it! ;-)
To: thoughtomator
Very good analogy.
To: Golden Gate
"Turkey and Iraq are merely trying to decide which part of the pie they are going to divide up among themselves"
You mean Iran? I agree!
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posted on
03/24/2003 8:09:45 PM PST
by
Enemy Of The State
(TELL THOSE F@%&#&$ WITH THE LAUNDRY ON THEIR HEADS THAT IT'S WASH DAY AND WE'RE BRINGING THE MAYTAG!)
To: EternalVigilance
I guess my thoughts on your main theme here are that it is fruitless to expect anything constructive or good out of the Democratic Party.I'd say this sums that expectation up quite well.
To: CFC__VRWC
LOL...very apt!
To: Golden Gate
I do appreciate the invite but am not versed as fully in this issue as others in this forum. I am enjoying everyone else's commentary, however, and have learned much tonight.
Thank you all.
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posted on
03/24/2003 9:34:00 PM PST
by
Tamzee
("Sabotage" and "Charade"....no French translation necessary.)
To: Golden Gate
Turkey won't keep any of Iraq.It has completely sabatoged our ability to strangle Baghdad,alienating US.The Kurds distrust them and the EU is pounding on them.What on earth could the Dems do? They enjoy our diplomatic 'failures'.Clinton and Carter? ugh
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posted on
03/25/2003 4:02:58 AM PST
by
MEG33
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