NYT MONDAY: BUSH HATE

DrudgeReport.com ^ | 8-3-03

[Numbers Guy]

And that's what's going to cause them to lose in November 2004 no matter who their candidate is. They are so obsessed with "overthrowing" Bush that they couldn't care less about anything the actual voters are concerned with, like POLICY, and instead will simply coalesce around whoever they think can beat Bush, regardless of what that candidate stands for.

I agree completely with one caveat: For the nutcase left, they will coalesce around whoever they think echoes their hatred of Bush the most. Ergo the surprising support for Dean, who's really not as left-wing as people think, but is the most disrespectful toward Bush.

[Timesink]

That is why they seem to always be looking for negative news on the war, the economy, etc. They want America to fail, so they can blame it on Bush.

Oh, there's no "seems" about it. The RATS have been caught multiple times in the last few months with incontrovertible proof (audio recordings, paper documents, etc) that they are intentionally hoping for and hyping negative news about America purely in order to take Bush down. (Even though it's not working.)

[Paul Atreides]

They also wanted every candidate who Bubba, Hillary, and Albore went out stumping for to win so that they could say that it was a repudiation of W. Then, every one of those candidates got their heads handed to them on a silver plate. I'll never forget Albore out there stumping for K.K. Townsend, saying that a vote for her would be revenge for him "losing" in 2000.

[mrtysmm]

That fish should have a face....Terry McAwful.

[Theyknow]

If you want to know how they feel about Bush think of how you feel about Bill and Hitlery. It is exactly the same emotion.

[Timesink]

I agree completely with one caveat: For the nutcase left, they will coalesce around whoever they think echoes their hatred of Bush the most. Ergo the surprising support for Dean, who's really not as left-wing as people think, but is the most disrespectful toward Bush.

Here's my take on why Dean's popular now, but won't be later (also here). IMHO, Dean's only getting all this support now because the only RATS who are even paying attention this early in the game are the ones we're discussing in this thread: The psychotic Bush-haters.

[EGPWS]

Disdain of core Dems toward W. Bush runs very deep

Why one might ask?

Maybe because Dubya' has done more to rip apart any shred of evidence that the Democratic party is for the concerns of the American public and NOT Politically motivated in their endeavors than the DNC has done to prove him wrong!

[Paul Atreides]

I think that some of it is 2000 and 2002, but the most of it is that 9-11 happened while a Republican was in office. You see, Bubba missed his one chance for a legacy. Now, his legacy is oral sex in the W.H. Also, it would have given a President Gore the chance to look presidential. That would have carried a lot of weight for successive terms and a chance to sweep Hillary in.

Remember how everyone is still talking about what a great job Rudy Guiliani did.

[The Hon. Galahad Threepwood]

The Dems are no more going to prosper on Bush-hate than the Republicans did on Clinton-hate.

And Clinton was at least a genuinely awful person. I think the people understood Clinton-hate, even if they didn't share it, or even particularly like it.

Bush is such an obviously decent guy that all this hatred just makes the Democrats look crazy.

[Dog Gone]

However, the real question is WHY the hate? What's the rationale behind it? Some it goes back to 2000 and 2002 elections, but most of it comes from the aftermath of 9/11.

They hate him because they decided he was a political lightweight who was stupid.

And because it turns out that on issue after issue, he beats them like a rented mule.

[mrtysmm]

After the '04 election....I wonder if they are still going to claim that they couldn't get their message out. It will be kinda an old excuse by then. You woulda thunk that by now they would see that hating Bush is no way to win the hearts and minds of the American people.

[TSgt]

I am reminded of Lincoln:

Both parties deprecated war, but one of them would 'make' war rather than let the nation survive, and the other would 'accept' war rather than let it perish, and the war came.

I'll let you guess who is who.

[Paul Atreides]

I think they have been, and are still, laying the groundwork to claim that there is a conservative bias in the media. They will claim that went against their candidate. There will also be the usual bit of blaming it on the voters who "did not have enough information." I also look for another manufactured scandal, concerning ballots.

[4Liberty]

This is NEWS ?

[Eva]

The hatred that the leftists feel toward George W. Bush stems from his open religiosity. The Judeo Christian religion is anathema to socialism because people who answer to a higher power than the state are not easily controlled or enslaved. The left had made great strides in denigrating traditional Judeo Christian beliefs and morality until George W. came on the scene and 9/11 re-awakened the patriotic and religious roots of America. It didn't hurt that our enemy had decided to wage a religious war on the US, either.

So, when the left realized they were losing the war of ideas, they reverted to their old stand-by weapon, hate.

[Paul Atreides]

Coming from the NYT, I won't be surprised to read a laundry list that claims to justify the Dim hatred of W.

[rdb3]

The hate expressed by the Left is no different from what many of FR's own posters express towards Bush every single day.

[Paul Atreides]

But, have you ever noticed that the media doesn't have a coronary when a Dim goes into a church praising Jesus? I saw a photo of Hillary the other day sitting in a church. Of course, it was a black church, but there is no talk about a separation of church and state. However, just let a Republican go into a supportive church, black or white, and the media starts the hand-wringing.

[dalebert]

They don't like the USA much either.

[Timesink]

If you want to know how they feel about Bush think of how you feel about Bill and Hitlery. It is exactly the same emotion.

Actually, it's different, and the way it's being channeled is different.

We hated Bill and Hillary not because they happened to win against Bush 41 - the White House changes parties on a routine basis and there's never been this amount of anger over it - but because of what they did once they got in the White House ... the eight solid years of scandal and sleaze. The hardcore RATS, on the other hand, hate Bush 43 purely because he won election in the first place ... because they came within a hair's width of successfully pulling off the biggest theft of an election in American history, but George W. Bush - "stupid, drunken frat-boy Dumbya" - KICKED THEIR ASSES. And then he got the Democrats tossed out of Congress too, insuring that they now are totally out of power for the first time in over 50 years, and are fading fast - all polls thus far show the RATS losing big in the House and Senate next fall.

As for how the hatred was channeled: We fought on an actual platform. We pointed out all the horrible things the 'Toons had done to our nation and promised that it would END. (Which it did.) The RATS, however, are purely running a "destroy Bush for the sake of destroying Bush" campaign. That will attract nobody but the people that have been waking up with clenched fists every morning for the last 2 1/2 years anyway ... precisely the people that will vote for whoever the RATS serve up no matter what, and thus need not be pandered to in the first place.

In short, the emotions of the RATS towards Bush are far more personal, and being channeled in far stupider a fashion. And that's why 2004 will make 2002 look like the Good Old Days for the RATS.