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Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11
AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/07/2003 4:22:34 PM PDT by dead

WASHINGTON - U.S. investigators now believe that a hijacker in the cockpit aboard United Airlines Flight 93 instructed terrorist-pilot Ziad Jarrah to crash the jetliner into a Pennsylvania field because of a passenger uprising in the cabin.

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

The government's findings — laid out deep within the report on the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that was sent to Congress last month — aim to resolve one of the enduring mysteries of the deadliest terror attacks in U.S. history: What happened in the final minutes aboard Flight 93?

The FBI strenuously maintains that its analysis does not diminish the heroism of passengers who — with the words "Let's roll" — apparently rushed down the airliner's narrow aisle to try to overtake the hijackers.

President Bush and Attorney General John Ashcroft have regularly praised the courage of those aboard Flight 93, some of whom told family members by telephone they were planning to storm the cockpit.

"While no one will ever know exactly what transpired in the final minutes of Flight 93, every shred of evidence indicates this plane crashed because of the heroic actions of the passengers," FBI spokeswoman Susan Whitson said Thursday.

Thirty-three passengers, seven crew members and the four hijackers died.

Citing transcripts of the still-secret cockpit recordings, FBI Director Robert Mueller told congressional investigators in a closed briefing last year that, minutes before Flight 93 hit the ground, one of the hijackers "advised Jarrah to crash the plane and end the passengers' attempt to retake the airplane."

Jarrah is thought to have been the terrorist-pilot because he was the only of the four hijackers aboard known to have a pilot's license.

Mueller's description was disclosed in a brief passage far into the 858-page report to Congress. Previous statements by FBI and other government officials have been ambiguous about what occurred in the cockpit.

Mueller's explanation was based on the FBI's efforts to decipher the cacophonous sounds on the cockpit recorder and produce a comprehensive transcript, said one official, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The FBI is convinced it may never know for certain what transpired in those final moments, but Mueller represented the information as the FBI's leading theory, this official said.

The same cockpit recording was played privately in April 2002 for family members of victims aboard Flight 93, and the FBI also provided them with its best effort at producing an understandable transcript.

Some family members indicated afterward they were led to believe that passengers used a food cart as a shield and successfully broke into the cockpit.

The FBI has been loath to publicly put forward a contradictory theory out of sensitivity to the families and because of uncertainty about what happened.

People who have heard the recording describe it as nearly indecipherable, containing static noises, cockpit alarms and wind interspersed with cries in English and Arabic. Near the end of the tape, sounds can be heard of breaking glass and crashing dishes — lending credence to the theory that passengers used the food cart to rush the jetliner's narrow aisle.

Separately, the data recorder showed the plane's wings rocking violently as the jet flew too low and too fast for safe flight.

Intelligence officials believe the likely target for Flight 93 was the White House, based on information from Abu Zubaydah, a senior al-Qaida terrorist leader in U.S. custody who is believed to have played a key role in organizing the Sept. 11 attacks.

Prosecutors have sought a U.S. judge's permission to play recordings from Flight 93 during the terrorism trial of Zacarias Moussaoui, the only defendant in a U.S. case prosecutors have directly tied to the attacks. Moussaoui is accused of conspiring with the hijackers.

The government has said it can link Moussaoui to Jarrah, using a telephone number found on a business card recovered at the Shanksville, Pa., crash site. Prosecutors believe the card belonged to Jarrah and that Moussaoui had called the same number.

Moussaoui has acknowledged allegiance to Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida but says he was not involved in the attacks.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911report; americanheroes; blessthemall; fbi; flight93; godblessthem; heroes; jarrah; letsroll; moussaoui; robertmueller; targets; whitehouse
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To: eno_
Only papers were found at a distance. Everything else was within a reasonable perimeter.
181 posted on 08/07/2003 6:33:11 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: ambrose
I preferred the myth.

I don't consider it a myth and neither should you - no matter what, that plane went down when it did because the passengers did something. Had they done nothing and just sat there, God only knows how many 100s or thousands more would have died.

182 posted on 08/07/2003 6:33:46 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: eno_
While it is possible they are all wrong,

Especially if they're using a single source, which is not uncommon.

there are exactly ZERO major media stories saying those initial reports were wrong.

Unless they are actually called on their mistakes by an irate litigant who actually wins, most media outlets do not put out major stories saying, "Oh, BTW, we REALLY got stuff wrong."

183 posted on 08/07/2003 6:33:54 PM PDT by Poohbah (Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women.)
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To: eno_; Poohbah; sinkspur
People hallucinated FBI men hauling away human remains?

It wasn't the FBI. It was local residents who THOUGHT it MAY be human remains.

From the article:

    "Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains."

184 posted on 08/07/2003 6:34:46 PM PDT by TomB
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To: onyx
This does not diminish the heroism of the passengers.

Absolutely correct. The aim of the bastards who hijacked the plane was to crash it into the White House. The passengers (knowingly, I believe, after speaking with relatives over their cell phones) took it upon themselves to stop that from happening, thus saving many lives on the ground.

185 posted on 08/07/2003 6:35:01 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: metesky
Not exactly Mr. Insider, but a discerning skeptic.

Nobody believed me when I posted that I thought those silly stories about Jessica Lynch were a lot of crap. Turns out she was basically injured in a serious car accident after all.

186 posted on 08/07/2003 6:35:09 PM PDT by Alberta's Child
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To: BigBobber
That they know how to make strap on bombs is indisputable. That they know how to make strap on bombs that they can smuggle into the cabins of airplanes is not proven. In fact, in order to accomplish their mission, something that looks like a bomb to an intimidated plane crew would work as well as the real thing. There have been other cases of airplanes hijacked by objects that looked like bombs but turned out not to be bombs.

Obviously, it would be easier and more certain for the terrorists plans to bring something onto the plane that looked like a bomb, but was not a bomb, thus would not be detected by screeners.

Or is this over your head?
187 posted on 08/07/2003 6:35:46 PM PDT by Pukka Puck
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To: Poohbah
People on FR love to prove major media are wrong. Got any proof in this case?

There are both preceding and subsequent AQ uses of small bombs on passenger planes.

It might also be possible the plane was shot down, but that might not have been possible, depeding on what we managed to get off the ground.

It is impossible for 6x7' pieces of wing, body parts, etc. to bounce 8 miles.
188 posted on 08/07/2003 6:38:05 PM PDT by eno_
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To: sinkspur
There was no debris miles from the site. None.

You're wrong. Type "Flight 93 debris" in Google and you'll find plenty of articles describing debris up to eight miles from the crash site and a one ton piece of engine 2000 yards away.

189 posted on 08/07/2003 6:38:39 PM PDT by BigBobber
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To: eno_
While it is possible they are all wrong, there are exactly ZERO major media stories saying those initial reports were wrong.

There were major Arab media stories that the Jews were behind 9/11, and knew about it in advance. None of these were ever retracted.

So what?

191 posted on 08/07/2003 6:38:57 PM PDT by sinkspur ("I've got brown sandwiches, and green sandwiches." Oscar Madison in THE ODD COUPLE.)
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To: Arkinsaw
I take it that those on the plane who made cell phone calls and stated the plan to rush the cockpit were in on the conspiracy?

No, not at all. I just think that there was some resistance on the plane, but it never got to the cockpit. The original story did smack of myth from the get-go. That they would put this to rest 2 years later isn't surprising. Thr truth is, sadly, that the americans on that plane were not effective in overtaking the controls of the plane.

192 posted on 08/07/2003 6:39:15 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Pukka Puck
That they know how to make strap on bombs that they can smuggle into the cabins of airplanes is not proven.

The shoe bomber and an improvised explosive that killed a passenger over the Pacific are proof.

193 posted on 08/07/2003 6:39:47 PM PDT by eno_
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To: eno_
It is impossible for 6x7' pieces of wing, body parts, etc. to bounce 8 miles.

Could you post a link to prove that assertion? As I said before, I live only 20 miles from the site and I never heard of anything other than papers being found away from the crash site.

194 posted on 08/07/2003 6:40:21 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Asclepius
Grow up - the original story is a myth. The passengers did try to overtake the hijackers, I don't doubt that, but they never made it, and failed. It was worth a shot, but a movie catch-phrase and a battle in the cockpit never happened.

I never thought it did.
195 posted on 08/07/2003 6:41:35 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: American Copper Beech
The 8-9 mile trail of 'debris', to the crash site, is quite telling. Are you aware, of *that scenario*? Are you worried, yet?

No newbie, I'm not. I drove the area around the crash site not long after and missed that "trail" you speak of.

196 posted on 08/07/2003 6:42:23 PM PDT by TomB
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To: Pukka Puck
I'm no fool - the original 'lets roll' story had the valiant passengers overtaking the cockpit. That never happened. This story clearly debunks that myth.

Anyone who fell for the myth them was the fool. I wasn't one of them.
197 posted on 08/07/2003 6:43:10 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: HitmanNY
but they never made it, and failed

"Failed" to do what?

198 posted on 08/07/2003 6:43:13 PM PDT by TomB
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To: American Copper Beech
Uh, the plane was falling apart from stress...like at speeds it shouldn't have been travelling.The speed with which Flight 175 hit the WTC South Tower was almost enough to blow that plane apart, and the pilot barely got it under control for it's attack approach.
200 posted on 08/07/2003 6:43:54 PM PDT by habs4ever
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