Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11

AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

[Sacajaweau]

Only papers were found at a distance. Everything else was within a reasonable perimeter.

[af_vet_rr]

I preferred the myth.

I don't consider it a myth and neither should you - no matter what, that plane went down when it did because the passengers did something. Had they done nothing and just sat there, God only knows how many 100s or thousands more would have died.

[Poohbah]

While it is possible they are all wrong,

Especially if they're using a single source, which is not uncommon.

there are exactly ZERO major media stories saying those initial reports were wrong.

Unless they are actually called on their mistakes by an irate litigant who actually wins, most media outlets do not put out major stories saying, "Oh, BTW, we REALLY got stuff wrong."

[TomB]

People hallucinated FBI men hauling away human remains?

It wasn't the FBI. It was local residents who THOUGHT it MAY be human remains.

From the article:

"Residents and workers at businesses outside Shanksville, Somerset County, reported discovering clothing, books, papers and what appeared to be human remains."

[LibertarianLiz]

This does not diminish the heroism of the passengers.

Absolutely correct. The aim of the bastards who hijacked the plane was to crash it into the White House. The passengers (knowingly, I believe, after speaking with relatives over their cell phones) took it upon themselves to stop that from happening, thus saving many lives on the ground.

[Alberta's Child]

Not exactly Mr. Insider, but a discerning skeptic.

Nobody believed me when I posted that I thought those silly stories about Jessica Lynch were a lot of crap. Turns out she was basically injured in a serious car accident after all.

[Pukka Puck]

That they know how to make strap on bombs is indisputable. That they know how to make strap on bombs that they can smuggle into the cabins of airplanes is not proven. In fact, in order to accomplish their mission, something that looks like a bomb to an intimidated plane crew would work as well as the real thing. There have been other cases of airplanes hijacked by objects that looked like bombs but turned out not to be bombs.

Obviously, it would be easier and more certain for the terrorists plans to bring something onto the plane that looked like a bomb, but was not a bomb, thus would not be detected by screeners.

Or is this over your head?

[eno_]

People on FR love to prove major media are wrong. Got any proof in this case?

There are both preceding and subsequent AQ uses of small bombs on passenger planes.

It might also be possible the plane was shot down, but that might not have been possible, depeding on what we managed to get off the ground.

It is impossible for 6x7' pieces of wing, body parts, etc. to bounce 8 miles.

[BigBobber]

There was no debris miles from the site. None.

You're wrong. Type "Flight 93 debris" in Google and you'll find plenty of articles describing debris up to eight miles from the crash site and a one ton piece of engine 2000 yards away.

[sinkspur]

While it is possible they are all wrong, there are exactly ZERO major media stories saying those initial reports were wrong.

There were major Arab media stories that the Jews were behind 9/11, and knew about it in advance. None of these were ever retracted.

So what?

[HitmanLV]

I take it that those on the plane who made cell phone calls and stated the plan to rush the cockpit were in on the conspiracy?

No, not at all. I just think that there was some resistance on the plane, but it never got to the cockpit. The original story did smack of myth from the get-go. That they would put this to rest 2 years later isn't surprising. Thr truth is, sadly, that the americans on that plane were not effective in overtaking the controls of the plane.

[eno_]

That they know how to make strap on bombs that they can smuggle into the cabins of airplanes is not proven.

The shoe bomber and an improvised explosive that killed a passenger over the Pacific are proof.

[TomB]

It is impossible for 6x7' pieces of wing, body parts, etc. to bounce 8 miles.

Could you post a link to prove that assertion? As I said before, I live only 20 miles from the site and I never heard of anything other than papers being found away from the crash site.

[HitmanLV]

Grow up - the original story is a myth. The passengers did try to overtake the hijackers, I don't doubt that, but they never made it, and failed. It was worth a shot, but a movie catch-phrase and a battle in the cockpit never happened.

I never thought it did.

[TomB]

The 8-9 mile trail of 'debris', to the crash site, is quite telling. Are you aware, of *that scenario*? Are you worried, yet?

No newbie, I'm not. I drove the area around the crash site not long after and missed that "trail" you speak of.

[HitmanLV]

I'm no fool - the original 'lets roll' story had the valiant passengers overtaking the cockpit. That never happened. This story clearly debunks that myth.

Anyone who fell for the myth them was the fool. I wasn't one of them.

[TomB]

but they never made it, and failed

"Failed" to do what?

[Bob J]

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[habs4ever]

Uh, the plane was falling apart from stress...like at speeds it shouldn't have been travelling.The speed with which Flight 175 hit the WTC South Tower was almost enough to blow that plane apart, and the pilot barely got it under control for it's attack approach.