Hijacker Crashed Flight 93 on 9/11

AP via Yahoo! ^ | 8/7/03 | TED BRIDIS, Associated Press Writer

[cyncooper]

Do your homework before you even think about posting here again.

Take your own advice.

[sinkspur]

Got anything that refutes that?

Got anything that confirms it? That's the ONLY account like that I've ever read. The burden of proof is on you to back this up with more than one story, with "eyewitness accounts" that are notoriously unreliable.

[eno_]

LIke I said: It had to be a bomb or a shoot down. I can't prove which.

There are no other way to explain the debris several miles from the crash site.

[mikegi]

What are your thoughts on the Apollo space program?

Funny you should mention Apollo. According to a French book I read, the "passenger" calls were sent out from the actual recording studio used to fake the moon landings. You know, the one in Area 51.

In fact, 9/11 was a joint US-Israeli conspiracy. Dubya, having been in the WH and seeing all the lovely interns around for months, was tired of Laura and wanted her out of the way (Bush was in Sarasota, Laura in the WH - coincidence? I think not!). Cheney wanted to reward his buddies in the oil business for getting him "selected" as Vice President. As for the Israelis, well, they're Jews and the Jooos are responsible for everything bad that happens in the world.

If you don't believe me, take a look at democraticunderground.com. They have all the documentation you need.

[Doe Eyes]

Screw the report, the passengers are still heroes.

I read nothing in the report to contradict their heroism. The highjackers were denied their goal by the actions of the passengers. They are hero's in my mind, regardless of whether they entered the cockpit.

[eno_]

Google returns 291 results. I picked one that was from a major local paper.

People hallucinated FBI men hauling away human remains?

[habs4ever]

Freeper Chris From NJ, who lost his father in that flight, says otherwise, after listening to the tapes.How do you explain the fighting and the screaming from cockpit voice tapes?

[Poohbah]

Google returns 291 results. I picked one that was from a major local paper

Did you make sure that the byline didn't read "Jayson Blair?" :o)

[sinkspur]

There are no other way to explain the debris several miles from the crash site.

There was no debris miles from the site. None. No matter how many times you repeat it, it is something that is the matter of conspiracy theories, and nothing else.

[Marianne]

Apparently this article was never posted to FR:
SEPTEMBER 11 - US GOVERNMENT ACCUSED
Frontpage Online (Portugal)
March 8, 2002 LINK
A Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented THE NEWS with version of the September 11th attacks that has to date failed to attract the attention of the international press. The report, compiled by an independent inquiry into the September 11th, World Trade Centre attack, warns the American public that the government’s official version of events does not stand up to scrutiny.
A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.
(click on link for rest of article)

[calvin sun]

Mr. Bridis may be guilty of the logical fallacy of the "false dichotomy," otherwise known as the "fallacy of the excluded middle." He is assuming that two possibilities are mutually exclusive, ie that they cannot both be true at the same time. In this case, he seems to be saying that
- because (apparently) one of the HIJACKERS crashed the plane
- therefore the passenger uprising must either have been a failure

However, as others have pointed out, BOTH possibilties could be true. Otherwise, we have had to believe that the hijackers INTENDED to crash the plane in an empty field.

[xp38]

Amen and Amen

[ladyinred]

This doesn't change anything really. The passengers rushing them still caused the plane to be crashed. That is what I always thought happened in the first place.

[HoustonCurmudgeon]

I agree. Witness the post (#138) which follows yours.

WOW, good example!

BTW I'm impressed that a yankee, Marine is so literate! ;-)

[sinkspur]

Google returns 291 results. I picked one that was from a major local paper.

Results on what search criteria? There's plenty of conspiracy foolishness, all over the place.

People hallucinated FBI men hauling away human remains?

How do they know what was being hauled away, and that these were FBI? Or, that anything was being hauled away at all?

You have a theory, and you're going to shoehorn facts to fit that theory.

[Sloth]

This theory, based on the government's analysis of cockpit recordings, discounts the popular perception of insurgent passengers grappling with terrorists to seize the plane's controls.

I fail to see ANY difference. Is it just some academic point of exactly how much they penetrated into the cockpit? Big deal. If the terrorists deliberately crashed because of a passenger revolt, they obviously believed the passengers would overwhelm them before they could reach their target.

[habs4ever]

Read press reports from local NJ papers, and no remains were found.Some objects, like watches, that didn't incinerate, were recovered and returned, but the local coroner found nadda....so, where do you get this idea that bodies were discovered miles away?

[eno_]

Practically every major news outlet carried stories of debris 8 miles from the main crash site.

While it is possible they are all wrong, there are exactly ZERO major media stories saying those initial reports were wrong.

You are the one wearing tinfoil.

[sinkspur]

A group of military and civilian US pilots, under the chairmanship of Colonel Donn de Grand, after deliberating non-stop for 72 hours, has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners, involved in the September 11th tragedy, had no control over their aircraft.

If I did ANYTHING for 72 hours nonstop, I might conclude that there were no airliners involved in 9/11, at all.

This is conspiracy CRAP.

[eno_]

Body parts. Follow the link. It's the Post-Gazette.