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COMBAT:How Green Berets Overcame the Odds at an Iraq Alamo
NY Times ^ | September 22, 2003 | THOM SHANKER

Posted on 09/22/2003 9:10:38 PM PDT by Pharmboy

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To: SAMWolf
This is great isn't it!

Thanks for the ping.
21 posted on 09/23/2003 5:31:35 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Free Vulcan
Hey ma, I know what I want for Christmas...

I ALMOST had my coffee to my lips when I read this--luckily I didn't. It's my company's laptop and they would've been mad.

22 posted on 09/23/2003 5:33:10 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
The battle is reconstructed here from interviews with five participants: three sergeants, a captain and a major, all far removed from efforts in Washington to recapture the glory of the military victory in this current much-debated period of postwar reconstruction.

While this paragraph gives much-needed background on the story, the ob(li)vious bias of the reporter is still galling, IMHO.

23 posted on 09/23/2003 5:39:14 AM PDT by MortMan (Tag - Does this mean "I'm it"?)
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To: Pharmboy; Ragtime Cowgirl
Rangers review Javelin 'flawless' effectiveness during OIF
24 posted on 09/23/2003 5:56:35 AM PDT by optimistically_conservative (assonance and consonance have nothing on alliteration)
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To: Pharmboy; Sparta
Great find.

Sparta-Ping.

"It was like a magic show. You know, now you see 'em, now you don't. The S.U.V.'s, the guys in the white robes — they simply vanished."

Made my day.

25 posted on 09/23/2003 6:07:44 AM PDT by MattinNJ (There can be only one.)
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To: Travis McGee
Don't miss this one!
26 posted on 09/23/2003 6:09:38 AM PDT by maica (Mainstream American)
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To: FormerlyAnotherLurker
Did I miss something re: the Alamo?

I believe the young SF Sergeant coined the term for the engagement. It belies their intent to hold ground at all costs. Fortunately, due primarily to their superb killing skills, dieing in place was reserved for the Iraqis.


27 posted on 09/23/2003 6:17:09 AM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: Pharmboy
In a prescient decision early in the mission, Captain Wright had ordered his team to gather Iraqi land mines by hand and blast a breach in an Iraqi defensive berm,


28 posted on 09/23/2003 6:22:26 AM PDT by Ichneumon
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Bump!
29 posted on 09/23/2003 6:46:20 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: MortMan
Yes...I had the same reaction to that. I had to read it several times to figure out what he was saying. It very well could have been something an editor inserted and was not originally in the author's text.
30 posted on 09/23/2003 6:51:10 AM PDT by Pharmboy (Dems lie 'cause they have to...)
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To: Pharmboy
Thanks for the post, Pharmboy - and the pix!! Very cool.

Cheers, CC :)
31 posted on 09/23/2003 6:52:53 AM PDT by CheneyChick ("I VILL KLEAN HAUS" -Gov. Schwarzenegger)
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To: Pharmboy
Bump for later. Thanks for the post...
32 posted on 09/23/2003 6:53:49 AM PDT by eureka! (Rats and Presstitutes lie--they have to in order to survive.....)
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To: Pharmboy
Under fire from artillery, tank shells, mortars and antiaircraft artillery bursts fired in a low arc toward them, Sergeant Brown squatted and fired shoulder-launched Javelin antitank missiles to take out two armored personnel carriers and ignite a troop truck full of Iraqi infantrymen. An hour before, Sergeant Brown had fired his very first Javelin at an Iraqi troop truck in the distance.

Do I understand correctly that SGT Brown had never fired a Javelin prior to this engagement? Wow! Good shooting!

33 posted on 09/23/2003 7:00:17 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard
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To: SevenDaysInMay
""Enforcers. Flowing white robes. Flowing black robes... sounds familiar. Enforcers. Federal judges, enforcers"

Good grief.
34 posted on 09/23/2003 7:07:10 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: ArrogantBustard
I think the article to mean that he fired his first Javelin OF THE ENGAGEMENT. I'm sure he was trained on the missile before he got there. That, of course, takes nothing away from his superb marksmanship. Just he and one other marksman wiped out the whole formation.

Michael

35 posted on 09/23/2003 7:08:12 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Have a profitable day!)
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To: sphinx; Toirdhealbheach Beucail; curmudgeonII; roderick; Notforprophet; river rat; csvset; ...
If you want on or off the Western Civilization Military History ping list, let me know.
36 posted on 09/23/2003 7:12:59 AM PDT by Sparta (CLARK 2004: Psychotic, perfumed prince, globalist, Clintonista, Saddam lover. What's not to love.)
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To: Sparta
Thanks for the ping. :)
37 posted on 09/23/2003 7:16:02 AM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: Pharmboy
Bless our military! They are truly awesome!
38 posted on 09/23/2003 7:17:43 AM PDT by MistyCA (For some...it's always going to be "A Nam Thing!")
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To: Pharmboy
"In a prescient decision early in the mission, Captain Wright had ordered his team to gather Iraqi land mines by hand and blast a breach in an Iraqi defensive berm, and that gap now provided a route for needed supplies , including more Javelins."

Now that is way cool.

Sure beats digging with a shovel!

39 posted on 09/23/2003 7:23:12 AM PDT by Dr._Joseph_Warren
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To: Pharmboy
You have to wonder if this wasn't published because of the Jim Marshall (D-GA) AJC article and the press conference the Dems held saying that Iraq coverage is biased.


40 posted on 09/23/2003 7:48:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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