1 posted on
07/25/2005 7:24:40 PM PDT by
jec1ny
To: kosta50; Graves; Hermann the Cherusker; TaxachusettsMan; Agrarian; FormerLib; armydoc; gbcdoj; ...
2 posted on
07/25/2005 7:25:50 PM PDT by
jec1ny
(Adjutorium nostrum in nomine Domine Qui fecit caelum et terram.)
To: jec1ny
5 posted on
07/25/2005 8:02:24 PM PDT by
ex-Texan
(Mathew 7:1 through 6)
To: jec1ny
And after the Hagia Sophia is returned to Christians, let's pressure our dear allies in Saudi Arabia to get their asses in gear and get cracking on permission for us to build a new cathedral!
There's a giant Islamic Mosque and Cultural Center in Rome.
Where's the cathedral in Riyadh?
I don't know about everyone else, but we should all be damn sick and tired of bending over backward (and sometimes forward) for the "great peaceful religion."
You wanna show great?
You wanna show peaceful?
Then, RECIPROCATION !!!
Get that cathedral built in Saudi Arabia sometime before next Ramadan, or we turn your mosque in Rome over to the Missionaries of Charity!
To: jec1ny
I LOVE THIS IDEA!!!! Awhile back the Holy Father - Pope John Paul (Martyr) the Great - gave the Patriarch of Constantinople a church in Rome. I think it only fit and proper and just that the Hagia Sophia be given to us Catholics as our church in Istanbul.
Btw at the time of the fall of Constantinople (1453) the Greeks were in union with Rome and thus the Hagia Sophia was actually a Catholic church!
13 posted on
07/26/2005 2:04:54 AM PDT by
Macoraba
To: jec1ny
Why? The Ottoman Turks conquered Constantinople fair and and square. The Hagia Sophia was theirs to dispose of as they saw fit. I'm glad they didn't raze it.
26 posted on
07/26/2005 6:47:28 AM PDT by
Little Ray
(I'm a reactionary, hirsute, gun-owning, knuckle dragging, Christian Neanderthal and proud of it!)
To: jec1ny
I normally do not do petitions, since I consider them totally ineffectual.
For intellectual honesty, however, I need to sign this one, since I have believed the same thing since I was a child.
A.M.D.G.
27 posted on
07/26/2005 6:50:26 AM PDT by
Publius6961
(Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
To: aomagrat; GipperCT; MarMema; crazykatz; don-o; JosephW; lambo; MoJoWork_n; newberger; ...
34 posted on
07/26/2005 7:11:23 AM PDT by
FormerLib
(Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
To: jec1ny
I was there in March and it looks truly awful. All the mosques are gorgeous and so well kept. The Hagia Sophia is dusty and dirty and looks terrible. I think it's such a shame.
37 posted on
07/26/2005 8:18:49 AM PDT by
Truth'sBabyGirl
(Bucknell class of 2003, Fordham Law 2006)
To: jec1ny
There's probably a better chance of asking them to restore the Emperor.
To: jec1ny
This idea rests on the premise that the European Union is more sympathetic to Christianity than Islam, and I have not seen evidence of that so far.
41 posted on
07/26/2005 11:23:26 AM PDT by
annalex
To: jec1ny
42 posted on
07/26/2005 11:44:14 AM PDT by
eleni121
('Thou hast conquered, O Galilean!' (Julian the Apostate))
To: jec1ny
Anybody know why Greece is advocating that their historical enemy Turkey should be included in the EU?
My inner conspiracy theorist thinks that it's so they can flood Istanbul with Greeks and take back the great jewel of their civilization.
44 posted on
07/26/2005 12:45:33 PM PDT by
Dumb_Ox
(Be not Afraid. "Perfect love drives out fear.")
To: jec1ny; american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
Hagia Sophia lithograph from the album by the Fossati brothers, Aya Sofia Constantinople, London 1852, (Athens Gennadeios Library).
Detail of a mosaic icon of Christ from Hagia Sophia
52 posted on
07/27/2005 11:08:12 AM PDT by
NYer
("Each person is meant to exist. Each person is God's own idea." - Pope Benedict XVI)
To: jec1ny
Hagia Sophia with those loathsome minarets airbrushed out and a cross added to the top. The way it should be.
53 posted on
07/27/2005 11:16:35 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(Benedictus qui venit in nomine Domini, Hosanna in excelsis!)
To: jec1ny
They should also be forced to issue an "apology" and pay back rent (with interest).
To: jb6; GarySpFc; sergey1973; Wiz; LUV W; ohioWfan; Russian Bear
"Fr. Anthony Chadwick has posted on his blog ( http://perso.wanadoo.fr/civitas.dei/blog_07-05.htm )an appeal to sign a petition to the European Union's Parliament. It calls for them to require Turkey to restore the great Byzantine Cathedral of Hagia Sophia to Christian use as a church, as a precondition for admission to the EU. I support this call and hope that all Christians (Eastern and Western alike) will join me in signing this petition. If you know of other places to post the link please pass it around. You may sign the petition at http://www.hagiasophiablog.com/mainpage.html"
translation
"We in whole heart absolutely agree with""Fr. Anthony Chadwick"; its good will of each good Christian not only in words; in heart as well; to support him and give him his helping hand. May God help him in his struggle against EU; I'm afraid though EU has long ago forgotten who dear Lord is; neither fore nothing is impossible for God. In love you find wisdom."end
thank you all
57 posted on
07/27/2005 12:07:47 PM PDT by
anonymoussierra
(Nie b¹dŸ pochopny w duchu do gniewu, bo gniew przebywa w piersi g³upców)
To: jec1ny
I would like to see Hagia Sophia restored as a church. However, there are no circumstances under which Turkey should be allowed to join the EU. Facilitating more mass migration of Moslems into Europe is suicidal.
58 posted on
07/27/2005 12:37:33 PM PDT by
Thorin
("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
To: jec1ny; NYer; hedgetrimmer
as a precondition for admission to the EU >>
problem is that I don't agree with the EU. No part of it.
73 posted on
07/27/2005 5:06:42 PM PDT by
Coleus
(Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
To: jec1ny
"Restore Hagia Sophia!"Here's a better idea, fill the churches you already have.
87 posted on
07/28/2005 5:38:05 PM PDT by
muir_redwoods
(Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopeckne is walking around free)
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