Posted on 10/21/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by NYer
Well put. Happy to concur.
Thanks.
LOL.
Good points, imho.
I do and there will!
Love your posts dear heart.
Thanks.
-A8
He's late on his assignment. Perhaps he can't find any evidence to present for that so often pontificated without evidence doctrine of Predestination. Give him some more time. Perhaps his interpretive and allegorizing so-called Holy Spirit is too busy right now on that St. Peter and Rome thread to help him here.
Give him a little more time ---- It's a tough assignment when you cannot allegorically interpret what you present as evidence.
a little more time ---
BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! His time is up!
BTW I just finished a discussion on another Catholic thread regarding Communion. I find it interesting that the explanation for their doctrine of Transubstantiation is Aristotelian philosophy of substance vs accidents [appearance], which is actually an early form of Gnosticism or Dualism --- the fact that something can appear to our senses to be one thing when it is really something else entirely.
Believers in this Aristotelian doctrine call that a "good thing" or a miracle from God, but I can't find any miracle from God that was one thing disguised as something else entirely. When Jesus healed people, they weren't still sick under the appearance of health, but they were healed in both substance and appearance. The facts on the outside reflected the facts on the inside.
The ability to perform this dualistic transubstantiation supposedly came from none other than "Peter in Rome", who we now know to have been the sorcerer Simon Magus, who was well versed in Greek literature, and no doubt Aristotle and his substance/appearance theory.
One wonders if Simon Magus and the priesthood descended from him were not performing such apparent magic tricks in Rome from their earliest days, and rather than really changing things from one substance into another, he would say to his followers that the substance has changed from one thing into another, it just appears to your senses as if it has not changed. I am transforming this sheep in front of you into a goat; it is now a goat under the appearance of still being a sheep. And the followers of Simon the magician bought it, just as Roman Catholics today buy into the same kind of Aristotelian magic regarding their Eucharist.
The history of the Eucharist? I read along.
Some of the things those folks actually believe make you scratch your head....but then when you realize that "Simon" was their progenitor....it does make sense! It is amazing that something this clear, to anyone who wants to take the time to find out, is not among the more prevalent of theological information.....but everything in it's own time.
Here's hoping you had a good Thanksgiving.
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