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Ex-Mormon harassed for Nauvoo witness
Townhall ^ | February 28, 2008 | Jerry Higgins

Posted on 03/01/2008 2:39:29 AM PST by Zakeet

NAUVOO, Ill. (BP)--Nestled along the banks of the Mississippi River about 270 miles southwest of Chicago, the Illinois town of Nauvoo is just a dot on the map for most people.

Nauvoo had seen better days as a thriving producer of cheese and wine until the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints built a $30 million temple in the community that was founded by Mormon patriarch Joseph Smith in 1939.

Now an estimated 300,000 to 400,000 visitors come to Nauvoo each year. Many of them pass the stucco storefront of the Christian Visitors Center, where Rocky Hulse and his wife Helen stand ready to tell anyone who will listen the differences between Mormonism and authentic Christian faith.

Hulse, 52, is a former Mormon and a retired U.S. Navy chief warrant officer who served in the Persian Gulf. Instead of using his Navy skills to land a high-paying job in San Diego or Dallas, however, the Hulses settled in Nauvoo to focus on sharing the truth about Jesus Christ with the town's 1,000 residents and the influx of tourists visiting the Mormon "mecca."

According to Mormon history, Joseph Smith received his last revelations in Nauvoo, where he served as mayor and built a temple. He was murdered in 1844 by a mob while awaiting trial on charges of destroying an opposition Mormon newspaper. The Mormon migration to Utah came a couple of years later.

Hulse has a weekly television show called "Truth Proclaimed" and is the author of a new book, "When Salt Lake City Calls: Is There a Conflict Between Mormonism and the Public Trust?" dealing largely with Mormon temple ceremonies. He says all he is doing is comparing Mormon teachings to the Bible and exposing the true history of Mormonism.

Not everyone welcomes his message.

Bishop David Wright, a Mormon leader in Nauvoo, described Hulse's ministry to The Chicago Tribune as "a non-Christian center or anti-Mormon center," saying, "I don't see anything Christian about it."

Hulse said his home office above the visitors center has been trashed and he has received several threatening e-mails. One e-mail, received a couple of days before Christmas 2006, read: "I'd love to watch you all die, then witness the looks on your faces when you realize how stupid and counterproductive your fight really was."

Hulse reported that threat to police in Nauvoo, who passed it on to Illinois and Utah authorities. The e-mail was traced to the computer of Phil Rogers, a Mormon who works as a court officer in Farmington, Utah, near Salt Lake City. An April 15, 2007, article in The Chicago Tribune quoted Rogers as saying that someone hacked into his Internet account while he was using an open router. The Tribune interviewed Internet security experts who said such tampering could have easily occurred.

Nauvoo Chief of Police Don Faulkner said Utah authorities refused to prosecute because they didn't have enough evidence. Faulkner, who is not a Mormon, said, "It's up to the state, the county and the attorney in the jurisdiction. It's up to the attorney whether he thinks the case is winnable. Opinions bear no weight. He won't take a case to court if he doesn't have enough evidence regardless of what anyone thinks."

Hulse said he wasn't surprised at the decision not to prosecute.

"In the Mormon world, the absolute worst thing you can be is an apostate ," Hulse said. "In their doctrine, on Judgment Day Hitler will go to a better place than someone who leaves the Mormon Church."

After the death threat, the Hulses increased security around the visitors center and were much more careful in their daily routines. Faulkner said he believes they have nothing to worry about from the locals. Police investigations have not come up with any suspects in the ransacking of his office.

"He spent time in the Navy protecting everyone's rights," Faulkner said. "He protected Mormons' religious beliefs, whether he agrees or not, along with Islam, Catholic, Baptist, Jewish … whatever religious beliefs."

But, Faulkner said, "When you have radio and TV programs and a storefront establishment preaching against a religion, people of that faith look at you and will make comments about you."

Hulse's straightforward evangelistic technique obviously rubs people the wrong way, said Jane Langford, editor of the local weekly newspaper, The Nauvoo New Independent. She said Hulse's expertise gives him credibility and rankles the Mormons.

"Rocky has done his research," said Langford, a Catholic who has published several of Hulse's articles. "I've given him a platform and he took it. At times maybe he took it too far. I've had a backlash, but I've tried to keep the tradition of the newspaper. I'm sure if I folded up, the Mormon Church would finance and start a newspaper which would have their slant to it."

Hulse was a Mormon for 31 years before he heard a "cowboy preacher" at a rodeo on Jan. 1, 1986. He was saved on the spot and felt God leading him to evangelize Mormons and tell Christians about Mormonism. In 1999, while stationed at the Great Lakes Naval Training Center in Chicago, Hulse and his wife started an outreach to Mormons. Their first taste of Nauvoo, according to the Tribune news story, came in 2002 when Hulse was barred from an open house at the new Mormon temple because he was deemed "disruptive."

The Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center is one of three visitors centers in the community. One is operated by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and the other by the reorganized Community of Christ, an offshoot of the main Mormon body. The other visitors centers, Hulse said, claim the only true church is the one started by Joseph Smith.

The visitors center the Hulses operate existed before they arrived in Nauvoo in 2005.

"No one ever challenges the Mormon Church at the level we do it," Hulse said. "Our TV show has us in many markets. They have rewritten doctrines that they don't tell anyone.

"If we are being untruthful, they have every right to expose us. No one has come forth because there is nothing to expose."

The Nauvoo Christian Visitors Center may be found on the Internet at http://www.nauvoochristian.org/.


TOPICS: Ecumenism; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: christian; lds; mormon; mormonism; nauvoo; persecution; witness
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To: greyfoxx39

Testing


61 posted on 03/02/2008 6:16:38 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (Bill Richardson: Billions for boondoggles; Not one red cent for Jenny Craig.)
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To: Religion Moderator
As to the rumor that I am a Mormon, you should know that I have also been accused of being anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic, Catholic, anti-Protestant, Protestant, etc.

I would only be concerned about bias if there were a group which had no such complaint.

You left out the Calvinist and anti-Calvinist part. ;-)

Haven't been here all that long, but you do a great job moderating this forum.

62 posted on 03/02/2008 6:22:43 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Elsie
Is that from the book, "The Doctor is In by Maurice Berquist, with illustrations by Schultz?
63 posted on 03/02/2008 6:33:02 AM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Elsie

No, they were in the river side park. Their pose was definitely more dramatic than your pic.

I’m going to guesstimate the statues to be about a 1/4 mile closer to the river than where the collection of old homes are located. They were dressed in their ‘sunday best’ it seemed, and one held a small telescope, while the other pointed across the Miss.River.

My wife just loves the old homes of the era, all the antique furnishings, etc. The fact that she didn’t want to do the tourist thing, and walk through them, was a clear sign to me of just how upset she was to the sad deception that took place there, and still does.

But sometime, Lord willing, I shall return to Nauvoo’s ‘Mars Hill’ and testify the truth to whoever I may.


64 posted on 03/02/2008 10:16:21 AM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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To: Domandred

“So this visitor center is more to preach against Mormons then it is to preach the Gospel? Sorry but that is not Christian, and neither are you.”

What a kind thing to say. So only Mormons are allowed to oppose and proselytize other religions??? That’s mighty delightsome of you.

The article states:

“(Smith) was murdered in 1844 by a mob while awaiting trial on charges of destroying an opposition Mormon newspaper. “

Actually, he was there for a multitude of reasons, having escaped jail in Missouri where he’d set off a war that almost got thousands of Gentiles AND Mormons slaughtered. Smith was Lt. General Smith at Nauvoo and had become a petty dictator harboring fugitives and running land speculation scams. Destroying the Nauvoo Expositor press was what primed the events leading to his death, but there were plenty of reasons why he was in jail other than that.


65 posted on 03/02/2008 8:45:14 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

I have NO idea.


66 posted on 03/03/2008 5:20:07 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Zuriel

I was googling for the staues, but found none that looked like they were ‘pointing’.


67 posted on 03/03/2008 5:20:45 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

LOL


68 posted on 03/03/2008 7:11:55 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

I guess we’ll have to play over here now.

Ignore OMM if it appears...


69 posted on 03/03/2008 9:58:48 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: SkyPilot

It isn’t only the Mormons who are intolerant, I am a 4C’s Congregationalist and I have been labeled a Unitarian, A UCC Type, icky. a Unitarian/Universalist, and because I have Many, Many LDS relatives a Mormon. My Parish makes a lot of Baptists look liberal


70 posted on 03/03/2008 10:23:49 AM PST by Little Bill (Welcome to the Newly Socialist State of New Hampshire)
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To: colorcountry; Pan_Yans Wife; MHGinTN; Colofornian; Elsie; FastCoyote; Osage Orange; Greg F; ...

Ping....moving on.


71 posted on 03/03/2008 10:24:28 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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Lurking
(running silent, running deep)


72 posted on 03/03/2008 10:27:55 AM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: Domandred
Let me get this straight...you are setting yourself above God in knowing a man’s heart? Or did you just miswrite what you meant?
73 posted on 03/03/2008 10:30:58 AM PST by svcw (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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To: Godzilla
Posting duplicate from locked thread for comment:

Link from that site led to  H. Michael Marquardt and further info:

H. MICHAEL MARQUARDT is an independent historian and a longtime research consultant of the Latter-day Saints (Mormons). He has been publishing on Mormonism for more than thirty years. He is the author of The Rise of Mormonism: 1816-1844 and The Joseph Smith Revelations: Text and Commentary..from an editorial review on Amazon.com

http://www.xmission.com/~research/about/books2.htm

In my earlier booklet The Book of Abraham Papyrus Found, published in October 1975, it was shown that Joseph Smith did not correctly represent the Book of Abraham text as to what was written on the Hor Sensen Papyrus. It was also shown that Joseph Smith did not understand the ancient Egyptian language when working on the Book of Abraham. These Egyptian Papers are issued in this present publication to reinforce the knowledge that Joseph Smith knew nothing on how to correctly render the papyrus characters into the English language. Students of the Book of Abraham problem should be aware that this is one of the great values to having the Joseph Smith Egyptian Papers published.

The manuscripts included in this compilation were written in English but were based upon the Egyptian papyri which were in the possession of Joseph Smith. The numbering of the manuscripts and the handwriting identification was derived from the list published in the LDS Church publication BYU Studies Vol. 11, No, 4, page 351. These documents were first published by Modern Microfilm Company of Salt Lake City, Utah in April 1966. While at that time these manuscripts had not been numbered and labeled, it is nevertheless a fact that the manuscripts do represent Joseph Smith's dictation to his scribes and also his own handwriting which appears on part of Egyptian Manuscript No.4.

More on Marquardt's papers here: Link


74 posted on 03/03/2008 10:34:32 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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To: greyfoxx39

BTTT


75 posted on 03/03/2008 10:37:19 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: greyfoxx39

Most interesting site. Author is VERY neutral and the way he deals with BOA almost suggests that he is a RLDS since they do not hold BOA as ‘inspired’. But once again, very balanced and not afraid to say that Nibley, et al are screwed up.


76 posted on 03/03/2008 10:41:12 AM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: Religion Moderator
As to the rumor that I am a Mormon, you should know that I have also been accused of being anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic, Catholic, anti-Protestant, Protestant, etc.

I hear you be Rasta mon!

77 posted on 03/03/2008 10:47:50 AM PST by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Men fight well when they know that no prisoners will be taken.)
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To: Godzilla
Now have to clean coffee off screen and keyboard.

You wouldn't have that problem if you were LDS.

78 posted on 03/03/2008 10:57:39 AM PST by CommerceComet
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To: CommerceComet
You wouldn't have that problem if you were LDS.

Didn't you know the tree of life is a coffee tree :)

79 posted on 03/03/2008 11:13:15 AM PST by Godzilla (Have you laughed at a liberal today?)
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To: Godzilla
Coffee tree very pretty and the coffee flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor coffee is impossible to eat.
Coffee tree very pretty and the coffee  flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor coffee is impossible to eat.

80 posted on 03/03/2008 11:19:01 AM PST by greyfoxx39 (TEFLON......IT'S NOT JUST FOR COOKWARE ANYMORE.)
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