Ex-Mormon harassed for Nauvoo witness

Townhall ^ | February 28, 2008 | Jerry Higgins

[greyfoxx39]

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[SeaHawkFan]

As to the rumor that I am a Mormon, you should know that I have also been accused of being anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic, Catholic, anti-Protestant, Protestant, etc.

I would only be concerned about bias if there were a group which had no such complaint.

You left out the Calvinist and anti-Calvinist part. ;-)

Haven't been here all that long, but you do a great job moderating this forum.

[SeaHawkFan]

Is that from the book, "The Doctor is In by Maurice Berquist, with illustrations by Schultz?

[Zuriel]

No, they were in the river side park. Their pose was definitely more dramatic than your pic.

I’m going to guesstimate the statues to be about a 1/4 mile closer to the river than where the collection of old homes are located. They were dressed in their ‘sunday best’ it seemed, and one held a small telescope, while the other pointed across the Miss.River.

My wife just loves the old homes of the era, all the antique furnishings, etc. The fact that she didn’t want to do the tourist thing, and walk through them, was a clear sign to me of just how upset she was to the sad deception that took place there, and still does.

But sometime, Lord willing, I shall return to Nauvoo’s ‘Mars Hill’ and testify the truth to whoever I may.

[FastCoyote]

“So this visitor center is more to preach against Mormons then it is to preach the Gospel? Sorry but that is not Christian, and neither are you.”

What a kind thing to say. So only Mormons are allowed to oppose and proselytize other religions??? That’s mighty delightsome of you.

The article states:

“(Smith) was murdered in 1844 by a mob while awaiting trial on charges of destroying an opposition Mormon newspaper. “

Actually, he was there for a multitude of reasons, having escaped jail in Missouri where he’d set off a war that almost got thousands of Gentiles AND Mormons slaughtered. Smith was Lt. General Smith at Nauvoo and had become a petty dictator harboring fugitives and running land speculation scams. Destroying the Nauvoo Expositor press was what primed the events leading to his death, but there were plenty of reasons why he was in jail other than that.

[Elsie]

I have NO idea.

[Elsie]

I was googling for the staues, but found none that looked like they were ‘pointing’.

[greyfoxx39]

LOL

[Elsie]

I guess we’ll have to play over here now.

Ignore OMM if it appears...

[Little Bill]

It isn’t only the Mormons who are intolerant, I am a 4C’s Congregationalist and I have been labeled a Unitarian, A UCC Type, icky. a Unitarian/Universalist, and because I have Many, Many LDS relatives a Mormon. My Parish makes a lot of Baptists look liberal

[greyfoxx39]

Ping....moving on.

[Godzilla]

Lurking
(running silent, running deep)

[svcw]

Let me get this straight...you are setting yourself above God in knowing a man’s heart? Or did you just miswrite what you meant?

[greyfoxx39]

Posting duplicate from locked thread for comment:

Link from that site led to  H. Michael Marquardt and further info:

H. MICHAEL MARQUARDT is an independent historian and a longtime research consultant of the Latter-day Saints (Mormons). He has been publishing on Mormonism for more than thirty years. He is the author of The Rise of Mormonism: 1816-1844 and The Joseph Smith Revelations: Text and Commentary..from an editorial review on Amazon.com

http://www.xmission.com/~research/about/books2.htm

In my earlier booklet The Book of Abraham Papyrus Found, published in October 1975, it was shown that Joseph Smith did not correctly represent the Book of Abraham text as to what was written on the Hor Sensen Papyrus. It was also shown that Joseph Smith did not understand the ancient Egyptian language when working on the Book of Abraham. These Egyptian Papers are issued in this present publication to reinforce the knowledge that Joseph Smith knew nothing on how to correctly render the papyrus characters into the English language. Students of the Book of Abraham problem should be aware that this is one of the great values to having the Joseph Smith Egyptian Papers published.

The manuscripts included in this compilation were written in English but were based upon the Egyptian papyri which were in the possession of Joseph Smith. The numbering of the manuscripts and the handwriting identification was derived from the list published in the LDS Church publication BYU Studies Vol. 11, No, 4, page 351. These documents were first published by Modern Microfilm Company of Salt Lake City, Utah in April 1966. While at that time these manuscripts had not been numbered and labeled, it is nevertheless a fact that the manuscripts do represent Joseph Smith's dictation to his scribes and also his own handwriting which appears on part of Egyptian Manuscript No.4.

More on Marquardt's papers here: Link

[Tennessee Nana]

BTTT

[Godzilla]

Most interesting site. Author is VERY neutral and the way he deals with BOA almost suggests that he is a RLDS since they do not hold BOA as ‘inspired’. But once again, very balanced and not afraid to say that Nibley, et al are screwed up.

[Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus]

As to the rumor that I am a Mormon, you should know that I have also been accused of being anti-Mormon, anti-Catholic, Catholic, anti-Protestant, Protestant, etc.

I hear you be Rasta mon!

[CommerceComet]

Now have to clean coffee off screen and keyboard.

You wouldn't have that problem if you were LDS.

[Godzilla]

You wouldn't have that problem if you were LDS.

Didn't you know the tree of life is a coffee tree :)

[greyfoxx39]

Coffee tree very pretty and the coffee flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor coffee is impossible to eat.
Coffee tree very pretty and the coffee  flower is sweet
But the fruit of the poor coffee is impossible to eat.