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Posted on 04/25/2008 12:06:53 PM PDT by NYer
What is at stake here is the rock-bottom question as to what worship is, and how you do it.... [W]orship is the thing we were created for -- to know God, and knowing him, to bless him and adore him forever....
To worship God is to ascribe worth to him. It is an activity distinct from teaching, and from fellowship, and from witnessing, and from sharing. It is an act, not an experience. ... Our task in worship is to offer the oblation of ourselves and our adoration at the Sapphire Throne.
Obviously this is a daunting and an august task. Fortunately we are not left to our own resources, nor to the whim of the moment, nor even to our own experience. The faithful have been worshipping God since the beginning, and there is help for us. All of us, even those of us who come from the so-called free churches ... are accustomed to borrowing secondhand, canned words to assist in worship. I am speaking of hymns. When we sing "Amazing Grace" or "O, For a Thousand Tongues to Sing," we are borrowing John Newton's or Charles Wesley's words. And we discover that, far from cramping or restricting our worship, these secondhand words bring us up to a level quite unattainable by our own spontaneous efforts. They take us away from ourselves. (p.254-255).
These reflections on worship contrast strangely with the protestations of many of those who leave the Church for what they perceive to be greener (certainly noisier) pastures. "I feel closer to God there ...," they say, or "the people are so much friendlier, and they have more to offer in the way of children's programs." Thinking they can choose a church the same way we can choose a new school or a new home, they rely on subjective factors of preference and comfort, rather than the single most important consideration of all: Which is the most authentic expression of the Body of Christ as He originally envisioned it? Not, "which is more entertaining?" but "Which leads me with surest steps along the pathway to holiness?" Not, "Which makes me feel good?" but "Which is most effective in treating my spiritual ills?" Not "which has the best music," but "which draws me closest to the sacramental presence of the Living Christ?"
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I could never be anything else. Born Catholic/die Catholic. The best gift my parents gave me!
there are many souls wrestling with that fear right now....when the time is right, they will come home to the truth....
they need to throw away the pride and the fear of what others will say...
God bless His One Holy Catholic and Apostolic church.
Eternal Father, I offer you the Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity of Your dearly beloved Son, Our Lord Jesus Christ, in atonement for our sins and those of the whole world.
Thanks for the reminder!
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Not to hijack the thread or anything, but how does modern schooling prepare children for life if "the thing we were created for [is]-- to know God, and knowing him, to bless him and adore him forever"?
Other consequences follow for the believer who comes to this understanding.
Me too. Although when asked if I have been a Catholic my whole life, I am obliged to reply, "Not yet."
I have found those recently converted to Catholisism to be the most appreciative of our faith. A lot of us are like spoiled kids who completely take for granted the precious traditions that God gave us. At least I did.
The blessed Mary is such a wonderful role model for us and no, she is not just like any other woman. Girls need that image of the ideal woman now more than ever.
I never took my faith for granted. I am so grateful to my parents for instilling in me the love of our Lord, Jesus Christ and his Blessed Mother. I had the best life growing up in the United States Military and a Catholic household! Couldn’t get any better than that!!!
"This is a sad day for all true sons and daughters of the Protestant Reformation, for all who lived and died for its truths," Douglas Groothuis, a professor at the evangelical Denver Seminary, said in a posting on Beckwith's own blog, adding sternly: " . . . you are embracing serious theological error."
I wonder if Groothuis thinks that this kind of comment will change Beckwith's mind?
My father was a convert & he truly was appreciative. I have all the respect for any Christian but I was born & will remain Catholic After being exposed to others I still see it the most “earthy” for lack of any other word to describe it.
You could be in the Knights of Columbus. Now fill out Form 100. You’ll be glad you did!
No, I am female!
That just might be an issue. ;o)
Happy Easter. Christ is risen!
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Elizabeth E is a precious saint by any measure.
Have had the honor of meeting her and asking her as many questions as I could think of at the time.
Reportedly she has Alzheimer’s and could use our prayers.
Me too. I get a lot of flak from people, which just makes me prouder.
“’You could be in the Knights of Columbus. Now fill out Form 100. Youll be glad you did!’
“No, I am female!”
Are you married? I could send your husband a Form 100.
On a membership drive, are we??
Thanks for you post about the current status of Elizabeth. My cousins are dealing with my aunt’s Alzheimer’s. She finally had to be moved into a home last week, so I understand the scourge of that disease. Prayers for all who are affected by such a terrible burden.
Thankfully, Mother had a heart attack as Dad held her on the toilet after many years of Alzheimer’s. She never had to be in a home other than her’s. Which was a great fear and point of anger for her—the idea she’d have to be at some point.
I stopped here. What a pity. What a pity. Always dug Elisabeth Elliot.
It is a shame that many keep themselves separated from the fullness of faith found in the Catholic Church when their love of Holy Scripture points squarely to His Church.
It's ridiculous. Imagine how it must pain Holy Mary to hear someone say, "well, my listeners just wouldn't understand."
Ever balk at the Catholic Church causes me to love Her more.
First of all, I don’t even know what “pings” are. I am not on the computer that often so you can take me off your list. If I see anything interesting to me regarding Catholic theology I will read it anyway and respond if I feel the need to do so.
Thanx for asking Alex — yoo’re doing a good job. Christ has risen! You bet He did!
I've wrestled long and hard with crossing the Tiber. But I adhere to my Protestant faith out of reason and conscience. I have investigated many aspects of the Church's teachings, specifically the ones I disagree with most - and checked what the Church's Catechism had to say on many of them. I find that my concerns are valid on most counts.
I love much about the Church, it's history, it's liturgy, the Eucharist. But I disagree on too many other points. There are things taught by the Church I simply cannot agree to out of intellectual honesty and simple reason.
“I could never be anything else.”
My mind cannot grasp existence outside the Catholic Church. I do not wear my religion on my sleeve (perhaps I should) but I hope and pray that many convert to see things my way.
If they don’t, I still wish them eternal salvation.
How about a litany of those reasons?
Thank you for the kind words.
I seeded the list originally with everyone who responded to the first few conversion threads. You are off now, and God bless you.
She probably was more worried about them (wrongly) than about herself - that is, she was probably afraid they’d feel abandoned, deceived, etc. Of course, some of them might have; but others would have started thinking...
Prayers for her in any case. Alzheimers in anybody is a horror, but in a person who was recognized as brilliant and gifted in her field, it must be twice as hard. Muriel Spark, the British philosopher/novelist (and Catholic convert), had it, and IIRC, her husband wrote about it later.
And I'm not castigating her. Her motives are not known to me.
Always. I’m the Grand Knight. ;-)
Not a problem! Most KofC Counciles have a women's auxiliary, of which I am a member.
Pssst ... the women are the backbone of the Knights and keep them afloat with their fundraisers :-)
My hubby needs one of those forms. I hear the life insurance is great! :o)
If you're serious, ask around at your parish if they have a parish-based Council, or what Council serves your parish. Councils are the basic unit of membership, and every Knight belongs to a local Council. The pastor should know your Council. Also, you can find out somewhere on the Knights’ website: www.kofc.org.
If you're serious and run into any difficulty finding the appropriate Council, let me know, I'll ask you to e-mail me some info, and I'll hunt it down.
I will pray for you that your eyes may be fully opened then. You obviously have a desire to be in full communion with your Savior.
I had no idea Thomas Howard was Elisabeth Elliot’s brother! Fascinating. Such outstanding people must have had a remarkable education and upbringing, and saintly parents.
Knights of Columbus life insurance policies are comparable in price and quality with the major highly-graded insurers. And they come right to your house when you’ve had a baby :-). Which reminds me that we may have forgotten to insure Vlad! (A Whole Life policy is actually cheaper once the child’s reached 2 or 3 :-).
Prayers to Mary.
Prayers to Saints.
Confession to a Priest instead of directly to God.
The Immaculate Conception.
The Assumption of Mary.
The "Hail, Mary" recited as a prayer or mantra.
The Marian doctrines - specifically all of the "cooperation" or "Co-Redemptrix" stuff.
Justification (though I think the Lutherans and Catholics are coming together on this one).
I'll let others answer the others, but the second part of the above is not dogma. But it is through Mary's "Ave" that the life of Jesus Our Saviour began on Earth. The unique character of that is undeniable.
I don’t think anything I said denies that.
I am truly impressed... a Grand Knight! My Father was a member of the Knights and always did a lot for our church and the school. As a matter of fact, he was given a certificate of recognition from John Paul II for his tireless work in the Church! (and he was a convert!) It’s hanging on the wall in my bedroom. My Father has since passed.
Oops, not “Ave,” (which is “Hail”), but “fiat” (”be it done”).
Have you ever listened to Father Corapi’s Lectures?
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