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Prophecy Pundits are at it Again
American Vision ^ | February 23, 2009 | Gary DeMar

Posted on 02/24/2009 10:10:12 AM PST by topcat54

Calvary Chapel of Chino California held “ The Southern California Prophecy Conference” last week (Feb. 20–22, 2009). I wonder if those who came to hear speakers like Tim LaHaye, Mark Hitchcock, Paul McGuire, David Hocking, David Reagan, and Ed Hindson were aware that Chuck Smith, the founder of the Calvary Chapel network of churches, made some very definite predictions about when the “rapture” was going to take place.

While cleaning up my office, I came across a cassette tape of a sermon Chuck Smith preached on December 31, 1979. He told his very accepting audience on that day that the rapture would take place in 1981. The former Soviet Republic going into Afghanistan in August of 1978 was the prelude to what Smith considered to be a full-force invasion of the Middle East. It would not be long before “Russia” would invade Israel, Smith told his audience. All of this was said to have been “predicted” by Ezekiel 2600 years ago.

Smith went on to claim in his end-of-the-year message of 30 years ago that because of ozone depletion Revelation 16:8 would be fulfilled during the soon-coming Great Tribulation: “And the fourth angel poured out his bowl upon the sun; and it was given to it to scorch men with fire.” According to Smith, Halley’s Comet would pass near the earth in 1986 and would wreck atmospheric havoc for those left behind as debris from its million-mile tail pummeled the earth. Halley’s Comet did appear in 1986 with no damage done to our planet. (A similar prelude to the end had been predicted based on the so-called Jupiter Effect.[1]) ...

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TOPICS: Theology
KEYWORDS: dispensationalism; eschatology; preterism; prophecy; tribulation
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To: fishtank

http://www.svchapel.org/resources/book-reviews/4-christian-living/127-future-grace-by-john-piper


141 posted on 02/26/2009 8:49:46 AM PST by fishtank (RINOs: Stuck inside of the GOP like spackle or paste. (We need a cleansing.))
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To: Quix

ROTSK is a great book by Jody Dillow.


142 posted on 02/26/2009 8:50:36 AM PST by fishtank (RINOs: Stuck inside of the GOP like spackle or paste. (We need a cleansing.))
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To: fishtank

Thanks.

However . . . given my long list already . . .


143 posted on 02/26/2009 8:51:57 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Right on the money...And all those who live in Israel as Israelis, may not all be Israel...


144 posted on 02/26/2009 8:52:14 AM PST by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool

INDEED.

. . . ANY MORE THAN

ALL THOSE living in America are not Christians.

And, that’s a point he made in that chapter. I just didn’t retype that part.

. . . any more than all those standing in garages are all cars.

I thought he had some quite Biblical and useful insights.

And it is interesting that the number of the remnant is about the same size. Fascinating.

Will be interesting to watch it all unfold.


145 posted on 02/26/2009 8:54:32 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool
What'd you do with the preceeding part of the chapter??? The chapter doesn't start at verse 11...

No problem there.

Someone's going to reign with Jesus for a thousand years...Apparently it won't be you...

Thanks for the vote of confidence. Glad you are’t in charge of my soul.

In any event, Rev. 20 says nothing at all about Christ reigning on the earth. The “thousand years” happens to be the time period in which we are presently living. It goes from the “first resurrection” (John 5:24,25; Eph. 2:6) and binding of Satan (Matt. 12:26-30) until Christ’s appearing and judgment of all men at the white throne (2 Tim. 4:1; Rev. 20:11).

I'll be taking part in the first ressurection...

All who have a part in the first resurrection (Christ’s resurrection) will be saved.

Oh, and BTW, Jesus Christ appeared numerous times in the Ot...And His appearing takes place more times in the NT that you have figured out...

Hmmm. Does that mean you believe Christ “appeared” in AD70 when Jerusalem was sacked and the temple destroyed?

Or are you denying the bodily appearing of Christ at His Second Coming when He judges the world and delivers up the kingdom to the Father (1 Cor. 15:23-25)?

146 posted on 02/26/2009 8:54:53 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: Iscool; Lee N. Field
Right on the money...And all those who live in Israel as Israelis, may not all be Israel...

All the true sons of Abraham have received the true circumcision and are part of the true Israel of God. Cf. Gal 3:28,29; Rom. 2:28,29; Eph. 2:19; Gal. 6:15,16.

147 posted on 02/26/2009 8:59:08 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: woollyone; TaraP
TaraP doesn’t mind and that’s all that matters.

You are more than welcome to productively contribute to this thread.

148 posted on 02/26/2009 9:00:15 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

Does your combative nature adequately puff you up?


149 posted on 02/26/2009 9:08:48 AM PST by woollyone (I believe God created me- you believe you're related to monkeys. Of course I laughed at you!)
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To: Cvengr
How does any believer know anything is veritable? Through faith alone in Christ alone.

And so how does that help you decide whether antichrist is alive and well on planet earth? Or that modern Israel is the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies? Or, how would that cause a pastor to make a comment like, "I'm convinced that the Lord is coming for His Church before the end of 1981." based largely on his views about modern Israel?

150 posted on 02/26/2009 9:10:34 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: woollyone
Does your combative nature adequately puff you up?

Is that being productive?

151 posted on 02/26/2009 9:11:22 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: Quix

2 Samuel 12, verse 7


152 posted on 02/26/2009 9:12:38 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("I'm so thankful for the active obedience of Christ. No hope without it." -- J. Gresham Machen)
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To: Lee N. Field

Which being preterist REPLACEMENTARIAN mangled/interpreted means ????


153 posted on 02/26/2009 9:18:42 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix
Which being preterist REPLACEMENTARIAN mangled/interpreted means ????

I'm not sure how to parse that.

154 posted on 02/26/2009 9:25:46 AM PST by Lee N. Field ("I'm so thankful for the active obedience of Christ. No hope without it." -- J. Gresham Machen)
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To: topcat54

topcat, I’m not arguing with you. My comment stands.


155 posted on 02/26/2009 9:27:49 AM PST by Blogger (Christians- Remember Nineveh.)
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To: Quix

“You da man!”

http://search.live.com/images/results.aspx?q=%22you%20da%20man%22&FORM=BILH


156 posted on 02/26/2009 9:29:44 AM PST by fishtank (RINOs: Stuck inside of the GOP like spackle or paste. (We need a cleansing.))
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To: Lee N. Field

I guess that makes 2 of us! LOL.


157 posted on 02/26/2009 9:30:13 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: fishtank

Gwarsh. Thanks!

I think.

LOL.

blesings,


158 posted on 02/26/2009 9:32:18 AM PST by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Blogger; raynearhood
topcat, I’m not arguing with you. My comment stands.

Fine. I was just trying to help you see how that comment makes no logical sense.

159 posted on 02/26/2009 9:54:36 AM PST by topcat54 ("Dispensationalism -- like crack for the eschatologically naive.")
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To: topcat54

very kind of you


160 posted on 02/26/2009 10:00:08 AM PST by Blogger (Christians- Remember Nineveh.)
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