Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Quix's Commentary On Pope Paul VI's 1967 Populorum Progressio RE: Globalism Implications
Quix's mysterious thought processes and the Vatican URL link given ^ | 26 MARCH 1967 AND 23 MAY 2009 | Pope Paul VI & Quix

Posted on 05/23/2009 9:10:25 PM PDT by Quix

Quix’s commentary on Pope Paul VI-th’s:

POPULORUM PROGRESSIO

ENCYCLICAL OF POPE PAUL VI
ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF PEOPLES

MARCH 26, 1967

FROM:

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-vi_enc_26031967_populorum_en.html

paragraph 13:

. . . But since the Church does dwell among men, she has the duty "of scrutinizing the signs of the times and of interpreting them in the light of the Gospel." (14) Sharing the noblest aspirations of men and suffering when she sees these aspirations not satisfied, she wishes to help them attain their full realization. So she offers man her distinctive contribution: a global perspective on man and human realities.

.

Qx:
A couple of things stand out to me in this paragraph. “. . . signs of the times.” That’s a rather Pentecostal phrase! LOL. I wonder what his thinking was as he chose that phrase. Or does it mean something different in Latin than it does to Pentecostals in English?

In English, to Pentecostals it equals “END TIMES” and the Biblical signs thereof. I’d think, HOPE, that the Vatican translators would KNOW that. If they didn’t and it slipped through, then their scholarship is not very impressive.

This term: “. . . a global perspective on man and human realities” is a bit fascinating . . . Certainly the Pope would have reason to consider his turf of global reach—quite reasonably, plausibly.

However, it also certainly fits globalism’s goals, wording and purview, as well. Whether this was deliberately done or not, the globalist puppet masters had to be pleased with that wording.

A New Humanism Needed

20. If development calls for an ever-growing number of technical experts, even more necessary still is the deep thought and reflection of wise men in search of a new humanism, one which will enable our contemporaries to enjoy the higher values of love and friendship, of prayer and contemplation, (17) and thus find themselves. This is what will guarantee man's authentic development—his transition from less than human conditions to truly human ones.

.

Hmmmmm “. . . a new humanism, . . .” Doesn’t sound that different than the Georgia Guidestones—the globalist’s ‘Ten Commandments.’

http://www.radioliberty.com/stones.htm

I’m not really that thrilled with the term “humanism.” Why would a Pope ‘need’ to use it. Humanism is NOT the objective of Believers in Christ. If anything, it should be “God-ism.” We are being conformed to HIS LIKENESS—if we are truly His Children.

“Humanism” is a satanic term in virtually all its modern uses. It is a seductive deception from hell. It pleases the flesh and flatters pride. It exalts man above or at least equal to God. I’m saddened to see the Pope use it.

The Use of Private Property

23. "He who has the goods of this world and sees his brother in need and closes his heart to him, how does the love of God abide in him?" (21) Everyone knows that the Fathers of the Church laid down the duty of the rich toward the poor in no uncertain terms. As St. Ambrose put it: "You are not making a gift of what is yours to the poor man, but you are giving him back what is his. You have been appropriating things that are meant to be for the common use of everyone. The earth belongs to everyone, not to the rich." (22) These words indicate that the right to private property is not absolute and unconditional.

.

I’ve long pondered this issue. Biblically, in terms of Christian thought and practice, I mostly agree with the Pope. And, I believe that authentic Christians in most places in these END TIMES will end up sharing all things in common as they did 2000 years ago. And that those proudly, selfishly unwilling to do so will suddenly find themselves WITHOUT their goods and wealth AND HIGHLY LIKELY, without--outside the camp of God’s people.

HOWEVER, we can observe in the story of Peter and Ananias and Sapphira, that there was NO COMPULSION FROM the Disciples. It was VOLUNTARY.

I don’t see IN SCRIPTURE, per se, the “You are not making a gift of what is yours to the poor man, but you are giving him back what is his.”

Scripture indicates that—essentially—IN GENERAL—that Godly people are blessed of God. That can end up creating a false ‘vending machine’ mentality about God. However, the Promises of God are clear in Scripture and include being blessed materially for those who walk close to God. King David and Solomon are but two examples. Kenneth Hagin was Biblical in his teachings and practices on that score. Most of his ‘disciples’ have jumped off the cliff with it but he was not that far off, himself.

Yet, God does also seem to call some individuals to a life of material poverty and spiritual wealth. And, many believers would bankrupt their souls if God blessed them materially—idolizing things.

In fact, SCRIPTURE IS CLEAR that whether by the work of one’s hands or as manna from Heaven—ALL BLESSINGS COME FROM GOD. The rich man AND the poor man who construes it otherwise are both on thin ice, from God’s perspective.

And, I CERTAINLY BELIEVE that IF Christians had applied the—‘if you have two, give your brother one’ Biblical principle, the horrendous welfare system would never have gotten off the ground short of a globalist forced strong-armed thing. CHRISTIANS TOO have been far too materialistic in every Christian group and flavor. And the Church Universal and individual Believers have suffered great loss because of that.

Yet, it is NOT the stuff that’s evil—but the LOVE of the stuff that is damning idolatry.

No one may appropriate surplus goods solely for his own private use when others lack the bare necessities of life. In short, "as the Fathers of the Church and other eminent theologians tell us, the right of private property may never be exercised to the detriment of the common good." When "private gain and basic community needs conflict with one another," it is for the public authorities "to seek a solution to these questions, with the active involvement of individual citizens and social groups." (23)

.

This begins to feel, again, like globalist tyrannical group-think, forced, coerced ‘charity’ a la the looming globalist Gestapo--forced conformity etc. As Shrillery said, WE ARE GOING TO TAKE THINGS FROM YOU, FOR THE COMMON GOOD.

SCRIPTURE is quite different—GOD LOVES A CHEERFUL GIVER—NOT out of compulsion, social pressure [perhaps we could say—nor out of law]—but freely AS UNTO GOD. 2 Cor 9:7

.

The Common Good

24. If certain landed estates impede the general prosperity because they are extensive, unused or poorly used, or because they bring hardship to peoples or are detrimental to the interests of the country, the common good sometimes demands their expropriation.

.

Hmmmmm . . . that phrase again “The Common Good.” “LIBERATION THEOLOGY” . . . that ended up deepening the enslavement of the serfs—quite along globalist lines and agenda. “. . . demands their expropriation.” Perhaps morally. To do it as government fiat is tyranny.

Vatican II affirms this emphatically. (24) At the same time it clearly teaches that income thus derived is not for man's capricious use, and that the exclusive pursuit of personal gain is prohibited. Consequently, it is not permissible for citizens who have garnered sizeable income from the resources and activities of their own nation to deposit a large portion of their income in foreign countries for the sake of their own private gain alone, taking no account of their country's interests; in doing this, they clearly wrong their country. (25)

.

True enough. They do wrong their own country. And likely they wrong their own souls. However, freedom at some point and for quite a distance, still requires that they be accountable to God and His Body of Believers vs to government tyrannical fiat—imho. And, I think the Believers as a group in every group have let evil hearted fat cats get off with horrific stuff because we were respecters of persons in violation of scripture. This is evident in the RC delivery of The Lord’s Supper to the likes of Scuba Teddy et al.

Unbridled Liberalism

26. However, certain concepts have somehow arisen out of these new conditions and insinuated themselves into the fabric of human society. These concepts present profit as the chief spur to economic progress, free competition as the guiding norm of economics, and private ownership of the means of production as an absolute right, having no limits nor concomitant social obligations.

.

While I might technically agree with him from a Biblical perspective . . . the limits must arise out of each individual’s relationship with God and NOT be a result of government fiat inserting itself between the individual and God.

Yet, the Pope seems to be setting up a kind of foundation for LIBERATION THEOLOGY GLOBALIST mandate for confiscating private property. That’s more than a little disturbing.

This unbridled liberalism paves the way for a particular type of tyranny, rightly condemned by Our predecessor Pius XI, for it results in the "international imperialism of money."(26)

.

This is indeed a paradox. Liberalism as currently practiced and, actually, as practiced for many decades . . . has been mostly about CONFISCATION of private property for WASTEFUL government bureaucracy and globalist tyranny types of programs.

And, it is the globalists and their tyrannical world government that will be the ultimate most intense imperialism—with a very deified materialism morphing into satan worship. It is more than a little odd that the Pope comes off speaking such memes, such phrasing, such themes.

Such improper manipulations of economic forces can never be condemned enough; let it be said once again that economics is supposed to be in the service of man. (27)

.

That’s a lofty ideal. Though I can’t think of a Scripture, per se, that espouses it. “. . . can never be condemned enough ;” sounds like Communistic tyranny, to me.

I don’t recall a single Scripture condemning riches, per se. Riches can easily keep a rich man out of Heaven. A rich man who shuts up his heart to the needs of the poor is in trouble with God. However, we are talking about heart attitudes first and foremost and deeds secondarily. The idolatry is the root issue.

However, Christians of all flavors have demonstrated far too much [any is too much] of such idolatry—shutting up their hearts against the poor . . . Being given far too much to selfishness. Ignoring God to work extra hours for a bigger TV screen, a flashier car, more expensive Nike’s etc.

Reform, Not Revolution

30. The injustice of certain situations cries out for God's attention. Lacking the bare necessities of life, whole nations are under the thumb of others; they cannot act on their own initiative; they cannot exercise personal responsibility; they cannot work toward a higher degree of cultural refinement or a greater participation in social and public life. They are sorely tempted to redress these insults to their human nature by violent means.

.

QUITE SO. However, most such situations have been and are set up by the globalists over the last century plus. Siding with their priorities, motivations, goals will only worsen such things. The globalists are collecting to themselves MORE of the world’s wealth at the expense of the poor and are determined to not just leave folks poor—but to exterminate them--massively.

31. Everyone knows, however, that revolutionary uprisings—except where there is manifest, longstanding tyranny which would do great damage to fundamental personal rights and dangerous harm to the common good of the country—engender new injustices, introduce new inequities and bring new disasters. The evil situation that exists, and it surely is evil, may not be dealt with in such a way that an even worse situation results.

.

Thankfully, he does see the truth of that! Praise God for that!

Programs and Planning

33. Individual initiative alone and the interplay of competition will not ensure satisfactory development. We cannot proceed to increase the wealth and power of the rich while we entrench the needy in their poverty and add to the woes of the oppressed. Organized programs are necessary for "directing, stimulating, coordinating, supplying and integrating" (35) the work of individuals and intermediary organizations.

.

Sounds like Shrillery, Biden, Puhlousey, Scuba Teddy and OThuga again. Bring Heaven to earth by government fiat. Won’t happen. Would NEVER succeed. Heart change is required else all other systems and means descend into hell. And ONLY Christ engineers heart changes.

It is for the public authorities to establish and lay down the desired goals, the plans to be followed, and the methods to be used in fulfilling them; and it is also their task to stimulate the efforts of those involved in this common activity. But they must also see to it that private initiative and intermediary organizations are involved in this work. In this way they will avoid total collectivization and the dangers of a planned economy which might threaten human liberty and obstruct the exercise of man's basic human rights.

.

Is this a milk-sop in behalf of “private initiative?” Sounds rather weak along-side the other assertions.

Basic Education

35. We can even say that economic growth is dependent on social progress, the goal to which it aspires; and that basic education is the first objective for any nation seeking to develop itself. Lack of education is as serious as lack of food; the illiterate is a starved spirit. When someone learns how to read and write, he is equipped to do a job and to shoulder a profession, to develop selfconfidence and realize that he can progress along with others. As We said in Our message to the UNESCO meeting at Teheran, literacy is the "first and most basic tool for personal enrichment and social integration; and it is society's most valuable tool for furthering development and economic progress." (36)

.

Sounds lofty. HOWEVER, UNESCO is a globalist organization that has been tirelessly seducing the world in behalf of globalism and globalist goals for many decades.

AND, EDUCATION was designed more than 100 years ago as a primary way of destroying the family and delivering the new Gestapo to the globalist masters untainted by God, religion and parental influences. Certainly I’m for education—God fearing education. I assume the Pope was, too. Yet, why this praise, seemingly, for UNESCO. Was he that ignorant of UNESCO’S aims? I doubt that.

We also rejoice at the good work accomplished in this field by private initiative, by the public authorities, and by international organizations. These are the primary agents of development, because they enable man to act for himself.

.

Thankfully, he included “private initiative.” HOWEVER, he seemed to give the lion’s share of support for ‘public authorities and INTERNATIONAL organizations.’ International organizations have been main tools of globalism for many decades. The Pope MUST have known that. If he was too ignorant to know that, then the Vatican information gathering and analyzing apparatus was still in kindergarten or chronically drunk on their rears.

IF he knew that—as he should have—and still ended up supporting INTERNATIOINAL ORGS, more or less carte blanche--then he’s complicit in globalism plain and simple.

Population Growth

37. There is no denying that the accelerated rate of population growth brings many added difficulties to the problems of development where the size of the population grows more rapidly than the quantity of available resources to such a degree that things seem to have reached an impasse. In such circumstances people are inclined to apply drastic remedies to reduce the birth rate.

There is no doubt that public authorities can intervene in this matter, within the bounds of their competence. They can instruct citizens on this subject and adopt appropriate measures, so long as these are in conformity with the dictates of the moral law and the rightful freedom of married couples is preserved completely intact. When the inalienable right of marriage and of procreation is taken away, so is human dignity.

Finally, it is for parents to take a thorough look at the matter and decide upon the number of their children. This is an obligation they take upon themselves, before their children already born, and before the community to which they belong—following the dictates of their own consciences informed by God's law authentically interpreted, and bolstered by their trust in Him. (39)

.

This whole section is MOST CURIOUS. He seems—SEEMS to tread a thin line here. He doesn’t actually violate RC dogma—but he sure seems to come close. He sure seems to walk as close as possible to globalist constructions on population and to globalist goals, aims and methods. Disturbing.

A Full-Bodied Humanism

42. The ultimate goal is a fullbodied humanism. (44) And does this not mean the fulfillment of the whole man and of every man? A narrow humanism, closed in on itself and not open to the values of the spirit and to God who is their source, could achieve apparent success, for man can set about organizing terrestrial realities without God. But "closed off from God, they will end up being directed against man. A humanism closed off from other realities becomes inhuman." (45)

.

I was glad to see this paragraph. However, along-side all the others, it comes across as a bit of a weak milk-sop.

True humanism points the way toward God and acknowledges the task to which we are called, the task which offers us the real meaning of human life. Man is not the ultimate measure of man. Man becomes truly man only by passing beyond himself. In the words of Pascal: "Man infinitely surpasses man." (46)

.

This, comes across to me as an upside-down way of putting it. GOD in Christ-redeemed RELATIONSHIP WITH MAN results in individuals becoming TRULY HUMAN as God designed them to be. Humanism—even “True Humanism” doesn’t point to God, imho. Humanism as a term, as a concept is still tainted—to me--with its origins in hell.

Three Major Duties

44. This duty concerns first and foremost the wealthier nations. Their obligations stem from the human and supernatural brotherhood of man, and present a three-fold obligation: 1) mutual solidarity—the aid that the richer nations must give to developing nations; 2) social justice—the rectification of trade relations between strong and weak nations; 3) universal charity—the effort to build a more humane world community, where all can give and receive, and where the progress of some is not bought at the expense of others. The matter is urgent, for on it depends the future of world civilization.

.

This sounds quite lofty. However, it’s almost straight globalist dogma. It’s full of globalist euphemisms—beginning with ‘the brotherhood of man.” “ . . . to build a more humane world community.”

Who could be against that? Any thinking person aware of THE MEANS and the eventual structure of the purported ‘HUMANE” WORLD community. There’s that emphasis on HUMANISM and WORLD again. Disturbing.

Aid to Developing Nations

45. "If a brother or a sister be naked and in want of daily food," says St. James, "and one of you say to them, 'Go in peace, be warm and filled,' yet you do not give them what is necessary for the body, what does it profit?" (48) Today no one can be unaware of the fact that on some continents countless men and women are ravished by hunger and countless children are undernourished. Many children die at an early age; many more of them find their physical and mental growth retarded. Thus whole populations are immersed in pitiable circumstances and lose heart.

.

Quite so. And, it IS the Body of Christ’s duty and privilege to help rectify such situations, conditions etc. And we have failed far too much at that task.

HOWEVER, WE HAVE ALSO SUCCEEDED at correcting such, FAR MORE THAN globalist government efforts have.

Joya is still working on getting me the 2nd half. So I’m going to go ahead and post this much. I’ll add the 2nd half later or tomorrow, Lord willing and the Creek Indians don’t rise up.

Joya’s impression of the last half is that it’s much MORE full of globalism than this half. God have mercy.

Satan’s seductions have been very skillful and comprehensive for millennia. And, he no doubt targeted the Vatican from early on. . . . as he has and does any even possibly authentic expression of Christianity. Sigh.


TOPICS: Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: endtimes; globalism; tyranny; vatican
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 181-188 next last
To: Mad Dawg

Good points.

Thanks thanks.


81 posted on 05/25/2009 5:10:28 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 79 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawg

More excellent points.

I do hope . . . perhaps when I’ve completed my commentary on this encyclical . . . that you’ll suggest some . . . meaningful answer to the question . . .

AT WHAT POINT, does an earnest RC Christian

go UT-OH about the Vatican’s seeming dance with, affirmation of globalism????


82 posted on 05/25/2009 5:12:44 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: Quix
I'm pretty much going to have to see Benedict's hand in Soros's pocket .... ;-)

And I guess we're going to have to postulate a bunch of Vatican bureaucrats who "really" run the place. I just don't think the College of Cardinals is simple enough for elections to be jiggered. So the pope in question has to be one who is being "handled" by his underlings.

I dunno .... It's like this. One of my favorite guys, the socius (sort of deputy/assistant) to the prior (boss) of the eastern Province of the Order of Preachers in the US was a student of Benedict's.

So I have to think that Fr. Brian who does a mean chicken dance and who preaches exquisitely, was suckered by a shy and scholarly cardinal/professor in Rome who even then was being set up to take over a significant role in a Dan Brownish plot to ... etc. etc.

One more thing: If the wise guys at the Vatican realio trulio think, as they appear to do, that a 2-state solution to Israel's travails is the only answer, they will say so, while they know that (a) not too may people will take them seriously, and (b) a whole bunch of other stuff has got to be taken care of before a 2-state plan would be anything other than borderline suicide on Israel's part. A group that has been ticking over, even by your estimate, for more than 1,500 years is going to tend to take the long view.

So, I think, they will tend to encourage global cooperation and the use of already in place organs of, say, the UN, even though they recognize that some others, who aren't Christians at all, would love to use the UN and globalism for ends not compatible with God's plan or Human good.

83 posted on 05/25/2009 6:28:48 PM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 82 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawg
[Quix commentary continued--FINAL INSTALLMENT]:

A Social Sense
70. We would also say a word to those who travel to newly industrialized nations for business purposes: industrialists, merchants, managers and representatives of large business concerns. It often happens that in their own land they do not lack a social sense. Why is it, then, that they give in to baser motives of self-interest when they set out to do business in the developing countries? Their more favored position should rather spur them on to be initiators of social progress and human betterment in these lands.

.

Certainly that’s a plausible question. And, where Christians performed poorly in such a context, where were their Brothers holding them to a higher standard?

However, again, the globalist oligarchy cares little for inequities except as they can play on them to gain greater !!!!CONTROL!!!! and tyranny over more regions, spheres, and peoples.

[Qx extra paragraphing here]

Their organizational experience should help them to figure out ways to make intelligent use of the labor of the indigenous population, to develop skilled workers, to train engineers and other management men, to foster these people's initiative and prepare them for offices of ever greater responsibility. In this way they will prepare these people to take over the burden of management in the near future.

.

Actually, a lot of that has been done overseas. Some of it became more and more true because the cost of keeping Western management folks in place overseas in the manner to which they’d become accustomed . . . became quite expensive. And, a lot has been done toward improving the working conditions/ standards of say Nike’s shoe factories overseas.

Nevertheless, on the whole, the globalist oligarchy has steadily deepened it’s entrenchment over the whole of the globe . . . as well as their closer and more restrictive !!!!CONTROL!!!! over more helpless-to-differ souls. Sometimes, the oligarchy uses even things they care little about—such as working conditions—in order to deepen their tyrannical control. They wouldn’t hesitate to reverse such progress in a flash, should it so suit some other oligarchy goal in the future.

In the meantime, justice must prevail in dealings between superiors and their subordinates. Legitimate contracts should govern these employment relations, spelling out the duties involved. And no one, whatever his status may be, should be unjustly subjected to the arbitrary whim of another.

.

PRAISE GOD for this wonderful assertion. It would last about as long as a fog on a Phoenix summer day at noon . . . in the fiery furnace of globalism’s core goals and values. Yet, it’s nice to see such a good Biblical assertion stated, at least.

Development Missions
71. We certainly rejoice over the fact that an ever increasing number of experts are being sent on development missions by private groups, bilateral associations and international organizations. These specialists must not "act as overlords, but as helpers and fellow workers.'' (59) The people of a country soon discover whether their new helpers are motivated by good will or not, whether they want to enhance human dignity or merely try out their special techniques. The expert's message will surely be rejected by these people if it is not inspired by brotherly love.

.

Thankfully, indigenous people have become more discerning about the motives of foreigners. And they certainly don’t respect nor work wholeheartedly in behalf of overlords who operate out of clearly less than admirable motives.

However, often, they have little choice in terms of whether they cooperate at all for some significantly greater benefit in life than they have been enjoying—or refuse to cooperate and continue to endure grinding poverty, disease and the like. The oligarchy has become masterful at making ‘one-down’ or ‘far down’ the pecking order folks—making them ‘offers they can’t refuse.’

The Role of Experts
72. Technical expertise is necessary, but it must be accompanied by concrete signs of genuine love. Untainted by overbearing nationalistic pride or any trace of racial discrimination, experts should learn how to work in collaboration with everyone. They must realize that their expert knowledge does not give them superiority in every sphere of life. The culture which shaped their living habits does contain certain universal human elements; but it cannot be regarded as the only culture, nor can it regard other cultures with haughty disdain. If it is introduced into foreign lands, it must undergo adaptation.

.

I’m glad to see this straight-forward assertion. Nevertheless, the fact remains that the oligarchy doesn’t really care a flip about other cultures. They are only intent on forcing their constructions on reality on the whole of the world, totally. They may extend a milk-sop to other cultural features in order to gain a bigger foot-hold of influence or !!!!CONTROL!!!! However, their heart is not in it. Their hearts have already been consumed by their very Dark Lord.

Thus those who undertake such work must realize they are guests in a foreign land; they must see to it that they studiously observe its historical traditions, its rich culture, and its peculiar genius. A rapprochement between cultures will thus take place, bringing benefits to both sides.

.

Another wonderful statement. And, with many Good Christian businessmen and international aid and mission agencies, that HAS been overwhelmingly the case—particularly in the last 3-5 decades or so.

However, again, the oligarchy doesn’t give a flip about such priorities except as they can be put to use deepening their death grip on more peoples and regions and sphere’s of resources etc.

Service to the World
73. Sincere dialogue between cultures, as between individuals, paves the way for ties of brotherhood. Plans proposed for man's betterment will unite all nations in the joint effort to be undertaken, if every citizen—be he a government leader, a public official, or a simple workman—is motivated by brotherly love and is truly anxious to build one universal human civilization that spans the globe. Then we shall see the start of a dialogue on man rather than on the products of the soil or of technology.

.

Hmmmm . . . “. . . to build one universal human civilization that spans the globe.” Again, that’s straight out of the globalist playbook and propaganda machine. And it will be far from what it’s cracked up to be.

This dialogue will be fruitful if it shows the participants how to make economic progress and how to achieve spiritual growth as well; if the technicians take the role of teachers and educators; if the training provided is characterized by a concern for spiritual and moral values, so that it ensures human betterment as well as economic growth. Then the bonds of solidarity will endure, even when the aid programs are past and gone. It is not plain to all that closer ties of this sort will contribute immeasurably to the preservation of world peace?

.

However, as even the white-washed version of their goals in the GEORGIA GUIDESTONES ref’d above shows—the spiritual and moral values sought and which WILL BE FORCED on the globe—is a homogenized pabulum of a humanistic religion that will then morph into clear and plain horrific satan worship. For the Vatican to give any aid or comfort toward such a goal is suicidal.

An Appeal to Youth
74. We are fully aware of the fact that many young people have already responded wholeheartedly to the invitation of Our predecessor Pius XII, summoning the laity to take part in missionary work. (60) We also know that other young people have offered their services to public and private organizations that seek to aid developing nations. We are delighted to learn that in some nations their requirement of military duty can be fulfilled, in part at least, by social service or, simply, service. We commend such undertakings and the men of good will who take part in them. Would that all those who profess to be followers of Christ might heed His plea: "I was hungry and you gave me to eat; I was thirsty and you gave me to drink; I was a stranger and you took me in; naked and you covered me; sick and you visited me; I was in prison and you came to me." (61)

.

I certainly applaud such efforts on the part of youth, as well. Servant-hearted work in behalf of the poor and unfortunate—particularly as unto God--brings spiritual growth benefits regardless of other factors.

However, OThuga’s version of such will turn out ultimately to be no more saintly than Hitler’s youth brigades.

No one is permitted to disregard the plight of his brothers living in dire poverty, enmeshed in ignorance and tormented by insecurity. The Christian, moved by this sad state of affairs, should echo the words of Christ: "I have compassion on the crowd." (62)

.

INDEED. Christians must respond with compassionate actions as well as prayerful feelings of compassion. Yet, who’s name is anything being done in? All too soon, the only name authorized will be that of the Dark Lord.

Prayer and Action
75. Let everyone implore God the Father Almighty that the human race, which is certainly aware of these evils, will bend every effort of mind and spirit to their eradication. To this prayer should be added the resolute commitment of every individual. Each should do as much as he can, as best he can, to counteract the slow pace of progress in some nations. And it is to be hoped that individuals, social organizations and nations will join hands in brotherly fashion—the strong aiding the weak—all contributing their knowledge, their enthusiasm and their love to the task, without thinking of their own convenience.

.

Voluntarily—AMEN! AMEN! Coerced as a globalist oligarchic demand, under tyrannical control . . . that would be something else. Paying the piper for that could be more than expensive.

It is the person who is motivated by genuine love, more than anyone else, who pits his intelligence against the problems of poverty, trying to uncover the causes and looking for effective ways of combatting and overcoming them. As a promoter of peace, "he goes on his way, holding aloft the torch of joy and shedding light and grace on the hearts of men all over the world; he helps them to cross the barriers of geographical frontiers, to acknowledge every man as a friend and brother." (63)

.

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

Development, the New Name for Peace
76. Extreme disparity between nations in economic, social and educational levels provokes jealousy and discord, often putting peace in jeopardy. As We told the Council Fathers on Our return from the United Nations: "We have to devote our attention to the situation of those nations still striving to advance. What We mean, to put it in clearer words, is that our charity toward the poor, of whom there are countless numbers in the world, has to become more solicitous, more effective, more generous." (64)

.

ADMIRABLE, AGAIN. However, before any Christian group goes very far down that road internationally, the oligarchy is right at hand insisting on compliance with one or more of their strictures, !!!!CONTROL!!!! features, influence etc. until they have at least swallowed up what they can get away with of the authority over such projects.

When we fight poverty and oppose the unfair conditions of the present, we are not just promoting human well-being; we are also furthering man's spiritual and moral development, and hence we are benefiting the whole human race. For peace is not simply the absence of warfare, based on a precarious balance of power; it is fashioned by efforts directed day after day toward the establishment of the ordered universe willed by God, with a more perfect form of justice among men. (65)

.

LOFTY WORDS. Between there and where the rubber meets the road . . . is a host of intractable challenges . . . all the more so with the oligarchy breathing down everyone’s necks.

77. Nations are the architects of their own development, and they must bear the burden of this work; but they cannot accomplish it if they live in isolation from others. Regional mutual aid agreements among the poorer nations, broader based programs of support for these nations, major alliances between nations to coordinate these activities—these are the road signs that point the way to national development and world peace.

.

Sounding rather like a globalist script, again.

Toward an Effective World Authority
78. Such international collaboration among the nations of the world certainly calls for institutions that will promote, coordinate and direct it, until a new juridical order is firmly established and fully ratified. We give willing and wholehearted support to those public organizations that have already joined in promoting the development of nations, and We ardently hope that they will enjoy ever growing authority. As We told the United Nations General Assembly in New York: "Your vocation is to bring not just some peoples but all peoples together as brothers. . . Who can fail to see the need and importance of thus gradually coming to the establishment of a world authority capable of taking effective action on the juridical and political planes?" (66)

.

AHHHHH . . . the quote. THIS ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, dogs and cats—IS PURE GLOBALISM. I cannot imagine that the Pope wrote such a statement ignorant of that fact. If he was ignorant, then he and the Vatican information resources are pathetic in terms of awareness. If he knew and was consciously complicit—then a lot of the rest of what he’s said in this encyclical is a farce. And how could he know and NOT be consciously complicit? Sorry, but this paragraph is well over the line, to me. He has deliberately signed-on to the plan, design, & methods of hell.

And, imho, he has no excuse. Scripture is quite clear that the global government brought about in the era in which Israel becomes a nation again in the Holy Land WILL BE A SATANIC GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. This is very sad to see in the context of this whole encyclical. The RC who claimed I was making this up must be willfully blind or utterly clueless. This is a dreadful declaration for any Pontiff of our era to make.

Hope for the Future
79. Some would regard these hopes as vain flights of fancy. It may be that these people are not realistic enough, and that they have not noticed that the world is moving rapidly in a certain direction. Men are growing more anxious to establish closer ties of brotherhood; despite their ignorance, their mistakes, their offenses, and even their lapses into barbarism and their wanderings from the path of salvation, they are slowly making their way to the Creator, even without adverting to it.

.

“. . . from the path of salvation . . . “ “. . . making their way to the Creator . . . “

EXCUSE ME? Globalism has nothing to do with Christian Salvation NOR a path to The Creator—quite the opposite. Was this Pope that blind? I think not. This is a perversion of Biblical truth. This is a hideous white-washing of dastardly hellish forces in our era in the geopolitical arena.

NO amount of globalist homogenized mushing the world together into a tighter, more controlled tidy little ball . . . absent more than 5 billion murdered citizens . . . NO amount of globalist propaganda, white-wash and lies will result in MORE of God’s Salvation through Christ and certainly NOT closer travel to God on the path to the Creator. What nonsense! Globalism is abjectly and fiercely about the opposite on both counts.

This struggle toward a more human way of life certainly calls for hard work and imposes difficult sacrifices. But even adversity, when endured for the sake of one's brothers and out of love for them, can contribute greatly to human progress. The Christian knows full well that when he unites himself with the expiatory sacrifice of the Divine Savior, he helps greatly to build up the body of Christ, (67) to assemble the People of God into the fullness of Christ.

.

SOUNDS good. Yet, in the face of those assertions just above, it doesn’t ring very true or authentic.

A Final Appeal
80. We must travel this road together, united in minds and hearts. Hence We feel it necessary to remind everyone of the seriousness of this issue in all its dimensions, and to impress upon them the need for action. The moment for action has reached a critical juncture. Can countless innocent children be saved? Can countless destitute families obtain more human living conditions? Can world peace and human civilization be preserved intact? Every individual and every nation must face up to this issue, for it is their problem.

.

Certainly it is a problem having an effect on everyone. The globalists have a solution. Exterminate all down to 200 million. Problem solved. WHEN they are sufficiently in control, of course. Sad that this Pontiff sounds like he’s cheering them on—at whatever the sanitized distance.

To Catholics
81. We appeal, first of all, to Our sons. In the developing nations and in other countries lay people must consider it their task to improve the temporal order. While the hierarchy has the role of teaching and authoritatively interpreting the moral laws and precepts that apply in this matter, the laity have the duty of using their own initiative and taking action in this area—without waiting passively for directives and precepts from others. They must try to infuse a Christian spirit into people's mental outlook and daily behavior, into the laws and structures of the civil community. (68) Changes must be made; present conditions must be improved. And the transformations must be permeated with the spirit of the Gospel.

.

SOUNDS GREAT. However, given his other assertions, he should count on the oligarchy to neuter any efforts whatsoever to infuse anything of the authentic Gospel of Christ into any of the oligarchy’s goals, systems and structures.

We especially urge Catholic men living in developed nations to offer their skills and earnest assistance to public and private organizations, both civil and religious, working to solve the problems of developing nations. They will surely want to be in the first ranks of those who spare no effort to have just and fair laws, based on moral precepts, established among all nations.

.

There is but one moral law of Globalism. Their way or death. And, ultimately, it will be WORSHIP the Dark Lord, or death.

To Other Christians and Believers
82. All Our Christian brothers, We are sure will want to consolidate and expand their collaborative efforts to reduce man's immoderate self-love and haughty pride, to eliminate quarrels and rivalries, and to repress demagoguery and injustice—so that a more human way of living is opened to all, with each man helping others out of brotherly love.

.

Regardless of the propaganda and white-wash, it is the purpose and goal of the oligarchy to carnalize any notion of brotherly love that may exist. They may use glowing Christian SOUNDING words. But they mean something entirely different from being Brothers in Christ’s Blood.

They essentially mean what OThuga means when he enlists youth in his Gestapo Brothers movement. Conformity to his will and orders at all costs.

Furthermore, We still remember with deep affection the dialogue We had with various non Christian individuals and communities in Bombay. So once again We ask these brothers of Ours to do all in their power to promote living conditions truly worthy of the children of God.

To All Men of Good Will
83. Finally, We look to all men of good will, reminding them that civil progress and economic development are the only road to peace. Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators—all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order. We ask God to enlighten and strengthen you all, so that you may persuade all men to turn their attention to these grave questions and prompt nations to work toward their solution .

.

Delegates to international organizations, public officials, gentlemen of the press, teachers and educators—all of you must realize that you have your part to play in the construction of a new world order.

EXCUSE ME!!!! HOW IS THIS ASSERTION DIFFERENT FROM SIMILAR ASSERTIONS BY the likes of Kissenger, Soros, Brezenski, Bush Sr, Carter, Shrillery or OThuga???? It’s not. It says the same thing and obviously must mean essentially the same thing. Horrific.

Educators, you should resolve to inspire young people with a love for the needy nations. Gentlemen of the press, your job is to place before our eyes the initiatives that are being taken to promote mutual aid, and the tragic spectacle of misery and poverty that people tend to ignore in order to salve their consciences. Thus at least the wealthy will know that the poor stand outside their doors waiting to receive some left-overs from their banquets.

.

Uhhhh . . . OK. Maybe.

To Government Authorities
84. Government leaders, your task is to draw your communities into closer ties of solidarity with all men, and to convince them that they must accept the necessary taxes on their luxuries and their wasteful expenditures in order to promote the development of nations and the preservation of peace. Delegates to international organizations, it is largely your task to see to it that senseless arms races and dangerous power plays give way to mutual collaboration between nations, a collaboration that is friendly, peace oriented, and divested of self-interest, a collaboration that contributes greatly to the common development of mankind and allows the individual to find fulfillment.

.

Nice words. In the context of globalist realities, they pale dreadfully in import.

To Thoughtful Men
85. It must be admitted that men very often find themselves in a sad state because they do not give enough thought and consideration to these things. So We call upon men of deep thought and wisdom—Catholics and Christians, believers in God and devotees of truth and justice, all men of good will—to take as their own Christ's injunction, "Seek and you shall find." (69) Blaze the trails to mutual cooperation among men, to deeper knowledge and more widespread charity, to a way of life marked by true brotherhood, to a human society based on mutual harmony.

.

“. . . true brotherhood . . .” “. . . a human society based on mutual harmony.”

Sorry. That doesn’t cut it. The ONLY LASTINGLY CONSTRUCTIVE BROTHERHOOD is that based on the blood relationship IN CHRIST’S BLOOD. All other brotherhood is destructively & suicidally polluted with sin. No harmony outside of harmony IN AND THROUGH CHRIST, HIS BLOOD AND HIS SPIRIT will ever produce anything lastingly good.

This secular humanist ‘harmony’ of the globalist oligarchy is founded in hell and will bear the fruits of hell. I’d have thought that a Pontiff would have known this and sought to make a clear distinction about such facts and issues.

To All Promoters of Development
86. Finally, a word to those of you who have heard the cries of needy nations and have come to their aid. We consider you the promoters and apostles of genuine progress and true development. Genuine progress does not consist in wealth sought for personal comfort or for its own sake; rather it consists in an economic order designed for the welfare of the human person, where the daily bread that each man receives reflects the glow of brotherly love and the helping hand of God.

.

Balderdash. The bread proffered through the globalist oligarchy will have strangling strings attached and will reflect NOTHING of Christian Brotherly Love nor of the helping hand of God.

87. We bless you with all Our heart, and We call upon all men of good will to join forces with you as a band of brothers. Knowing, as we all do, that development means peace these days, what man would not want to work for it with every ounce of his strength? No one, of course. So We beseech all of you to respond wholeheartedly to Our urgent plea, in the name of the Lord.

Given at Rome, at St. Peter's, on the feast of the Resurrection, March 26, 1967, in the fourth year of Our pontificate.

PAUL VI

.

WOW.

I’m reminded of the Scripture about how the Anti-Christ will

MAKE WAR, WITH PEACE.

I suppose I was vainly hoping that the Pontiff would somehow neutralize the brazenly globalist assertion in the quote that brought me to this encyclical. He did not. I’m greatly saddened that even back in 1967, he was clearly on board with the global agenda of the satanic globalist oligarchy.

I would love to be able to honestly conclude otherwise. The evidence just does not allow me to do so.

May all Christians of every flavor and brand prayerfully ponder this evidence and these issues. May they prepare their hearts, spirits and families for the looming implications.

BLESSED BE THE NAME AND WORD OF THE LORD. WATCH, PREPARE, LOOK UP! MARANATHA!


84 posted on 05/25/2009 6:37:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 80 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawg

I still don’t know what to make of Benedict. I wish him well.

There are certainly plenty of complexities involved.

I appreciate your candid response. I THINK I understand it.

If THAT’S YOUR criteria, God help souls of lesser perceptiveness.

Thanks for your kind msgs.


85 posted on 05/25/2009 6:40:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 83 | View Replies]

To: Alamo-Girl; airborne; AngieGal; annieokie; aragorn; auggy; backhoe; bearsgirl90; BigBadWolf; ...

END TIMES PING

“B” LIST

This concluding section of my commentary responds to the most troublesome paragraphs in the encyclical.

I can’t imagine a way to rationalize away the clearly globalist statements included in the encyclical.

Blessings,


86 posted on 05/25/2009 7:16:12 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: Quix
Sorry but I've been too tied up this weekend to really even adequately keep up with this conversation, much less contribute (Hope that will change, but...)

In regards to your comment,

I hope you’re accurate about that. It’s beginning to appear a bit like muddy water on that score, to me. (in regards to liberation theology)

Well, Cardinal Ratzinger (now Pope Benedict XVI), while performing the duties of Prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, wrote Instruction on certain aspects of the "Theology of Liberation" – Libertatis nuntius back in 1984. That document pretty well categorically denounces the perversion of the Christian message within the Marxist hermeneutic and the attempt to devolve Christianity into a Class struggle (which is essentially what liberation theology does).

87 posted on 05/25/2009 8:19:55 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 75 | View Replies]

To: markomalley

PRAISE GOD FOR THAT!

Glad to hear of it.

Thanks for pointing that out.

Take your time.

Will leave on Friday for Colo and not sure how much computer access I’ll have. I assume we’ll have some time after we come back. I don’t think things are going to fall down around our ears quite THAT soon! LOL.

Blessings to you and yours.


88 posted on 05/25/2009 8:25:15 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 87 | View Replies]

To: markomalley; Quix
A superb post Marko. Absolutely first rate.




(OMG, am I agreeing with Quix?!?)

;O)

89 posted on 05/25/2009 8:28:43 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 88 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

Perhaps confession and penance will deal with it nicely.


90 posted on 05/25/2009 8:31:53 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 89 | View Replies]

To: Quix

Agreed.

I recommend you commence forthwith.


91 posted on 05/25/2009 8:32:52 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 90 | View Replies]

To: Petronski

Can virtually always count on your

faithfulness

to

projection.


92 posted on 05/25/2009 8:44:39 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 91 | View Replies]

To: Quix

Are you asking?

Yes.

I can virtually always count on your faithfulness to projection.


93 posted on 05/25/2009 8:47:15 PM PDT by Petronski (In Germany they came first for the Communists, And I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 92 | View Replies]

To: stfassisi
Do NOT mention Jack Chick at all on the Religion Forum.
94 posted on 05/25/2009 8:49:05 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Quix

Hi Quix,

Please remember that this was from ‘67 in the meantime a lot of the terms used have come to mean something else and have been co-opted by all sorts of weird and wonderful groups. For a better reading one would need to understand how the terms were commonly used and viewed in the day. I was only 7 at the time so not much hope of me doing that!

Cheers

Mel


95 posted on 05/25/2009 10:50:34 PM PDT by melsec (A Proud Aussie)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Mad Dawg

I appreciate your yeoman’s work.

However when the person you’re educating goes off into “space people from Mars and Venus” and ties in a dying Pope in one big mess of psuedo-history, conspiracy-mania, and bogus science…

You’re swatting at boogie men and fairy tales.


96 posted on 05/26/2009 3:02:49 AM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 70 | View Replies]

To: Quix

Good job, Quix.

Scary stuff.

Lift up your heads, O, you gates.
Be lifted up, ye everlasting doors.
The King of Glory shall come in, the King of Glory shall come in.

Who is this King of Glory?
The Lord strong and mighty.
Mighty in battle.


97 posted on 05/26/2009 3:44:42 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 84 | View Replies]

To: melsec

It MAY be reasonable to subtract out some percentage for that.

HOWEVER,

as the list of quotes ref’d in my tagline illustrate . . .

THE IDEAS,
THE THEMES,
THE GOALS,
THE METHODS,
THE MEANS

of achieving a global government

have been around since AT LEAST 1900.

At some point word nuances and their changes are INSUFFICIENT rationalization.

I have yet to read an RC hereon acknowledge that.


98 posted on 05/26/2009 4:02:10 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 95 | View Replies]

To: D-fendr; Mad Dawg; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; DarthVader; airborne; AngieGal; annieokie; aragorn; ...

Mad Dawg

dealt with the topic and the perspective

honorably,
honestly,
reasonably,
mutually respectfully,
charitably,
in a Christian manner.

Evidently 99% of the RC’s hereon have an incapacity &/or an unwillingness to do so.

That’s VERY IMPRESSIVE . . . in an obverse direction. Not at all something to be proud of, in a truly Christian sense.

Mad Dawg candidly noted he’d have to see the Pope’s hand in Soros’ pocket to be greatly concerned. At least he clearly understands the issues and is prepared theologically, philosophically . . . & teologically? to deal with plausible future contingencies in a Biblically redemptive manner. I have negligible confidence that many to most RC’s hereon will be able to do that short of some very quick and very large miracles of Holy Spirit’s Grace at the time.

Most RC responses are some variation of

MY DADDY IS !!!!TOO!!!! BIGGER THAN YOUR DADDY, SO HARUMPH [sticks tongue out]!

I’m sure satan is very impressed with that stance and perspective.

That attitude and position will undoubtedly save millions of RC’s from the looming satanic deceptions.

/sar


99 posted on 05/26/2009 4:12:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 96 | View Replies]

To: Joya

AMEN! THANKS.


100 posted on 05/26/2009 4:13:51 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 97 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 61-8081-100101-120 ... 181-188 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
Religion
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson