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Basic questions for Mormons
Examiner ^ | July 18, 2009 | Mark Andrus

Posted on 07/19/2009 9:35:36 AM PDT by delacoert

Q: Do Mormons believe in the Trinity?

A: Yes, Mormons believe in the reality and divinity of the trinity of the Father, Son, and the Holy Ghost; however, Mormons believe that the trinity is composed of three separate and distinct beings with individual bodies. As seen in Matthew 3:16-17 the Son “was baptized” and “went straightway out of the water…and he saw the Spirit…descending like a dove…And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.” Thus the three divine beings that constitute the trinity are separate beings, yet one in purpose.

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Wow. Thou Mormon, subterfuge is thy middle name.

While the clause after the word "however" is true, the first part of this answer is a flat out lie. Mormons don't use the word "trinity" accept to dis traditional Christian theology about the Godhead.

Mormonism does not include a belief in a Trinity, in which the one God consists of three persons. To at first answer the question in the affirmative is a lie that reveals the deceptive strategy of LDS church. That strategy is to used the same words found in Christianity, but redefine them. With a proper understanding of what Mormonism really teaches, you will be able to see past those definitions into the real differences between Christianity and Mormonism.

The difference is the difference between eternal life and damnation.

 

Topic

Christian

Mormon

GOD
There is only one God (Isaiah 43:11; 44:6,8; 45:5).
"And they (the Gods) said: Let there be light: and there was light (Book of Abraham 4:3).
God has always been God (Psalm 90:2; Isaiah 57:15).
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!!! . . . We have imagined that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see," (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 345).
God is a spirit without flesh and bones (John 4:24; Luke 24:39).
"The Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as man's," (Doctrine and Covenants 130:22; Compare with Alma 18:26-27; 22:9-10).
"Therefore we know that both the Father and the Son are in form and stature perfect men; each of them possesses a tangible body . . . of flesh and bones," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 38).
TRINITY
The Trinity is the doctrine that there is only one God in all the universe and that He exists in three eternal, simultaneous persons: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
The trinity is three separate Gods: The Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. "That these three are separate individuals, physically distinct from each other, is demonstrated by the accepted records of divine dealings with man," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 35).
JESUS
Jesus was born of the virgin Mary (Isaiah 7:14; Matt. 1:23).
"The birth of the Saviour was as natural as are the births of our children; it was the result of natural action. He partook of flesh and blood - was begotten of his Father, as we were of our fathers," (Journal of Discourses, vol. 8, p. 115).
"Christ was begotten by an Immortal Father in the same way that mortal men are begotten by mortal fathers" (Mormon Doctrine, by Bruce McConkie, p. 547).
Jesus is the eternal Son. He is second person of the Trinity. He has two natures. He is God in flesh and man (John 1:1, 14; Col. 2;9) and the creator of all things (Col. 1:15-17).
Jesus is the literal spirit-brother of Lucifer, a creation (Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).
THE
HOLY
SPIRIT
The Holy Spirit is the third person of the Trinity. He is not a force. He is a person. (Acts 5:3-4; 13:2)
Mormonism distinguishes between the Holy Spirit (God's presence via an essence) and the Holy Ghost (the third god in the Mormon doctrine of the trinity).
"He [the Holy Ghost] is a being endowed with the attributes and powers of Deity, and not a mere force, or essence," (Articles of Faith, by James Talmage, p. 144).

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Table is from CARM.

1 posted on 07/19/2009 9:35:36 AM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

It’s called “arianism”.

Mormons didn’t invent it.


2 posted on 07/19/2009 9:42:02 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: delacoert
>>>>>Jesus is the literal spirit-brother of Lucifer, a creation (Gospel Through the Ages, p. 15).

Mormon's aren't Christians.

3 posted on 07/19/2009 9:44:15 AM PDT by Reagan Man ("In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.")
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To: delacoert

Thanks


4 posted on 07/19/2009 9:49:04 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: delacoert

I don’t understand the point of this (other than it being flamebait.)

Mormons can believe anything they want. You can’t prove them wrong anymore than you can prove yourself right.


5 posted on 07/19/2009 9:49:17 AM PDT by Tzimisce (No thanks. We have enough government already. - The Tick)
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To: Tzimisce

exactly.


6 posted on 07/19/2009 9:52:03 AM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: delacoert

I could have sworn this was a political forum.


7 posted on 07/19/2009 9:55:51 AM PDT by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: arealconservativeforachange
This thread is posted in the Religion Forum.

If you do not wish to see RF posts, do NOT use the "everything" option on the browse. Instead, browse by "News/Activism." When you log back in, the browse will reset to "everything" - so be sure to set it back to "News/Activism."

8 posted on 07/19/2009 9:57:56 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: delacoert

For heaven’s sake, calm down. You seem so intent on dissing Mormons you forget that they love God, just like you. What difference does it make that they have those beliefs? They are good, law abiding people who are raising great kids and who live clean lives, why do you care so much about their dogma?

If I were you, on a Sunday, I would be worried about the many people who don’t even ACKNOWLEDGE God, much less love Him.


9 posted on 07/19/2009 10:01:19 AM PDT by CaliGirlGodHelpMe
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To: Religion Moderator

Thanks for the tip.
Is there also a way to filter the posts of certain people?


10 posted on 07/19/2009 10:04:20 AM PDT by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: Tzimisce
Well, except there are not Quaker like people on the moon, I am pretty sure that part has been disproved.
11 posted on 07/19/2009 10:04:25 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe

Which god would that be?


12 posted on 07/19/2009 10:04:55 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: arealconservativeforachange

No, but the request for such a feature has been made.


13 posted on 07/19/2009 10:05:03 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: arealconservativeforachange

And you swear? Blasphemy and a thousand plagues upon you.


14 posted on 07/19/2009 10:09:25 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Religion Moderator

How about this thought to help along the Freepathon:

Put up an auction for that functionality.

Say if $1000 comes in the feature will be installed.

It couldn’t hurt. I know I’m tired of scrolling past the same one trick pony stuff of some people. I’d pony up for it and I’m betting a lot of people would.


15 posted on 07/19/2009 10:10:11 AM PDT by arealconservativeforachange (Tell JD Hayworth to run for McCain's seat! http://www.jdhayworth.com/contact.php)
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To: arealconservativeforachange

I’ll pass your idea along.


16 posted on 07/19/2009 10:11:44 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: CaliGirlGodHelpMe
Please don't make this personal per the posting guidelines in the Religion forum.

Please don't pretend to read my mind, also per the posting guidelines in the Religion forum.

You mischaracterize both my state of mind and my motivations.

You are not me.

Demon spirits also ACKNOWLEDGE God.

17 posted on 07/19/2009 10:15:36 AM PDT by delacoert
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To: svcw

ttt


18 posted on 07/19/2009 10:32:07 AM PDT by svcw (Barry: mentally deficient & narcissistic misogynist megalomaniac psychopath w/ paranoid delusions)
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To: Religion Moderator

Having the ability to set your default startup forum would work well. So many posters seem to get confused about which forum they are seeing posts from.


19 posted on 07/19/2009 10:43:10 AM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert

FYI for you Mormons out there... the Pageant is Back!

http://www.hillcumorah.org/


20 posted on 07/19/2009 10:44:18 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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